Strange "Phenomenon"

[Jim]

Hi Morgan.
I checked my LRL and here in Greece far from Electric lines. Of course i did not took signls so strong as at Portugal.
But near your home the power lines are 230V, so can't give false signals at 20++ m distance.

Regards

Well. Is your contraption detecting voltage or electrostatic fields? False signals sounds plausible, regardless.

Electronic gadgets will do that sometimes when waving them around. I know my conventional metal detectors will do that when improperly adjusted/tuned

[Geo]

Yes, all around us are electrostatic charged, atmosphere is charged, air layers are charged, clouds are charged, dry autumn leaves are charged, Aurora is charged, etc..

There are big and small electrostatic charges in nature. Big charges suppress and nullify small charges. And at the end there is no constant electrostatic charges in nature.

Especially in the ground. All charges are at the end discharged. Emerging and disappearing. Ever. No exceptions.


The fact already known old Greek thinkers Heraclitus (panta rhei) and apparently completely unknown current "LRL thinkers"

Not to take into account the aforesaid means place extraordinary claims. But extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence to be proved.

Unfortunately, there is no evidence that LRL fan(atic)s have such evidence.

look...
All begin from what we see...
Here i write my experiments and nothing else. I am an experiment man and nothing else.
I am not a LRL fanatic. I have saw LRL to work but i don't understand how..., and of course i am not own of these machines .
Maybe i make some mistakes but i support what i see or what i have worked, independent if I do not have the knowledge to argue it.

[Geo]

Hello Geo

Remember,when you locate the targets with your LRL here in my country,it was power lines not far away from some buried targets you detect,maybe your device is very sensitive to electricity and you get false signals...maybe.

Regards

Hi Morgan.
I checked my LRL and here in Greece far from Electric lines. Of course i did not took signls so strong as at Portugal.
But near your home the power lines are 230V, so can't give false signals at 20++ m distance.

Regards

[Morgan]

Geo LRL

Hi.
I believe that buried objects generate a electrostatic field. Of course i did not measure it or other similar.

Regards

Hello Geo

Remember,when you locate the targets with your LRL here in my country,it was power lines not far away from some buried targets you detect,maybe your device is very sensitive to electricity and you get false signals...maybe.

Regards

[WM6]

Yes, all around us are electrostatic charged, atmosphere is charged, air layers are charged, clouds are charged, dry autumn leaves are charged, Aurora is charged, etc..

There are big and small electrostatic charges in nature. Big charges suppress and nullify small charges. And at the end there is no constant electrostatic charges in nature.

Especially in the ground. All charges are at the end discharged. Emerging and disappearing. Ever. No exceptions.


The fact already known old Greek thinkers Heraclitus (panta rhei) and apparently completely unknown current "LRL thinkers"

Not to take into account the aforesaid means place extraordinary claims. But extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence to be proved.

Unfortunately, there is no evidence that LRL fan(atic)s have such evidence.

[FrancoItaly]

Hi Geo
I'm agree with you, a plastic rod that is static charged it can sensed some meters away and also trees are sensed, perhaps because they are in the ground with roots and they don't have the same voltage of the surroinding atmosphere.
Best Regards

[Geo]

Note to self: Stop asking hard questions

Hi.
No Problem for hard questions.
I just read the message

[Geo]

Thanks for your reply.

I am evidently in the dark in regards to this type of machine. Do buried coins (gold and silver) generate an electrostatic field, and this unit you query about is supposed to detect said field?

Thanks again, Jim

Hi.
I believe that buried objects generate a electrostatic field. Of course i did not measure it or other similar.

Regards

[Jim]

Thanks for your reply.

I am evidently in the dark in regards to this type of machine. Do buried coins (gold and silver) generate an electrostatic field, and this unit you query about is supposed to detect said field?

Thanks again, Jim

Note to self: Stop asking hard questions

[Jim]

My detector detects the electrostatic fields.

Thanks for your reply.

I am evidently in the dark in regards to this type of machine. Do buried coins (gold and silver) generate an electrostatic field, and this unit you query about is supposed to detect said field?

Thanks again, Jim

[J_Player]

Hi. My device is not the Zahori. For me problems may be the low sensitivity so i have not constant beeps. But at Portugal why i had constant beeps at two places???? At second place i had signal from 5...7 meters at least. Really i don't know....
I continue......

Hi Geo,
It seems to me the difference is not from your detector. What has changed is the location you are using it. The first difference I see is the ground is not the same in Portugal as where you test it now. This means maybe there is different soil chemistry, and different collections of things buried in the soil. All soil is not the same. Geologists know this, and make allowances when making tests with their instruments to measure things in the soil. Also all the other things that others posted can make a change in your detector beeping, like strength of atmospheric charge or earth magnetic field differences, humidity, maybe broadcast waves in the air if your detector uses coils. It is difficult to determine with so many variables. And for certain the Portugal soil does not have the same chemicals and mineralization as the soil you search now, and not many pieces of clay pottery. These things can even make hard to find treasure with conventional detectors.

Best wishes,
J_P

[ivconic]

I know specialists in spit all the time... but by drunk... and isn't my case.

Wanna be a spittin' champion? Use lemon!
Wanna know what's really bad? To lick lemon infront of the bugler!

[WM6]

Yes, I was speaking at phone with a friend 150Km far, and at every thunter near his city i had beeps.

Geo, this is only indirectly related to thunder in yours friend city. You have to measure air moisture, atmospheric static charge and pressure in your city, which was changed the same way as in your friend location. This is reason not thunder 150 km away. 150 km mean nothing for weather (mentioned atmospheric phenomenon which was practically the same) .

[Geo]

If your detector is detecting electrostatic fields (rather than ionic); those are even easier to produce in lab environment.

Also, I'm not familiar with your weather patterns there. Do you get thunder and lightening storms, such as we do here in the US?
No....

Have you ever taken your device and tried to detect "long distance" electrostatic charged clouds. Yes once.
These should exhibit a much larger charge than what might be found around buried precious metals. Just wondering...
Yes, I was speaking at phone with a friend 150Km far, and at every thunter near his city i had beeps.

Regards

[Geo]

If the "strange phenomenon" is really the detection of electrostatic fields, than perhaps the following would be simple way to verify and detect these fields.

Theseus,Thank you.
Please can you tell me about probe bacause i don't understand (Oooo my English )

Regards