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Geo	12-08-2008 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aft_72005 (Post 82628)

Hi Geo
At carl MFD article , at the earth probe did use ,coil.
Are you trying seem as Carl.
Please more inform me . also please upload more picture
In the matter.
Best regards.

Hi Aft.
I don't use the coils. I connect the signal and the gnd to the earth via 2 crocodile
Regards:)

Geo	12-08-2008 05:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Great_Alex (Post 82632)

Hi GEO

what's the signal frequency that you show on the scope ?

please send some pictures of your domplete device , Lrods & other components that you use .

Hi Alex. The frequency 13.92 Khz is frequency for copper. Also copper is detective with 11.7 Khz but L rods open....
I attach you some pictures of the generatoe, and the amplifier with the inverter 12 to 225.5 V
Regards:)

Geo	12-08-2008 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great_Alex (Post 82631)

Carl put that coil in MFD as a joke , cause he doesn't believe the LRLs at all.

This EM field make all the EM detectors even PI detctors to find the treasure place easily , not as the Geo claim over 500 meter or 2KM :eek: , but under 50m is possible .

You have not right. 500 m is a small detecting distance for a 20V output signal (at the probes in the earth).
I believe that Carl's MFD can locate a object at 500 m distance.
Regards:)

Morgan

12-08-2008 08:11 PM

L Rods

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo (Post 82645)

Hi Aft.
I don't use the coils. I connect the signal and the gnd to the earth via 2 crocodile
Regards:)

Ok,if Geo put his L rods p00p box generator here in forum,i also can put this one made long time ago.
It beeps when find target. Patent not registrated

MFD with probes,Generator,Alarm system with Buzzer,Single Rod Antenna... Attachment 7218

Attachment 7219

Attachment 7220

Morgan

12-08-2008 08:16 PM

L Rod

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo (Post 82648)

You have not right. 500 m is a small detecting distance for a 20V output signal (at the probes in the earth).
I believe that Carl's MFD can locate a object at 500 m distance.
Regards:)

Some of the finds.
Ops,i forget to put in the picture the big amount of iron nails,seams this frequencies generator not works only for Gold...

Attachment 7221

Geo	12-08-2008 08:28 PM

http://www.thunting.com/geotech/foru...0&d=1228770673
Hi Morgan. I cant see any Buzer for "It beeps when find target".
It seem to me for a Estebans schematic, but the coil at the rotor is not good
Regards:)

Morgan

12-08-2008 09:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo (Post 82657)

It as a small buzzer inside,like some toys...
Yes,it beeps when find the target,and its not Esteban project.

Great_Alex

12-08-2008 09:35 PM

Quote:

Hi Aft.
I don't use the coils. I connect the signal and the gnd to the earth via 2 crocodile
Regards:)

is the signals that emitted by the target or from your signal generator or another enviromental noise ?

Nice work Morgan
but now you built the PD , and your PD become a big mystery to me , which device is better , PD or your Lrod ?

Morgan , if you help and i built a PD someday i promise you that i don't steal your country treasures:lol:

Morgan

12-08-2008 10:31 PM

MFD

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great_Alex (Post 82661)

Hi Geo

Thanks for pictures , did you built the carl MFD and test it on a long range target?

about the distance i must say that i'm not the skeptic man that always say "it's impossible" , but in a very long range (over 500 m) there are many disturbance in environment , soil , other metals and some substants with similar manner as target ,so the device that work based on gravity system and resonanse between the anttena and the target in a speciall frequency hardly can detect the target and confiused . but nothing is imposible ;)

Hi

Of course the PD is more serious LRL device than the MFD,anyway i found a lot of objects with the Carl´s power generator dowsing system,but some junk also. I can say its possible to find treasure with this,but in the range of 50 to 100 meters,not more.The single Rod Antenna produce bether results than the two rod´s like Geo is using...

Regards

is the signals that emitted by the target or from your signal generator or another enviromental noise ?

Nice work Morgan
but now you built the PD , and your PD become a big mystery to me , which device is better , PD or your Lrod ?

Morgan , if you help and i built a PD someday i promise you that i don't steal your country treasures:lol:

Yes the oncle Carl´s MFD works,hope not registrated patent;)

Qiaozhi

12-08-2008 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo (Post 82646)

Hmmm ... :rolleyes:

We've just seen a different list of frequencies on another thread, which states Copper has a "special" frequency of 58.6kHz. Now you're saying it's 13.92kHz.
You cannot both be correct ..... but you could both be wrong! ;)

Geo	12-09-2008 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great_Alex (Post 82661)

Hi Geo

Thanks for pictures , did you built the carl MFD and test it on a long range target?

about the distance i must say that i'm not the skeptic man that always say "it's impossible" , but in a very long range (over 500 m) there are many disturbance in environment , soil , other metals and some substants with similar manner as target ,so the device that work based on gravity system and resonanse between the anttena and the target in a speciall frequency hardly can detect the target and confiused . but nothing is imposible ;)

is the signals that emitted by the target or from your signal generator or another enviromental noise ?

Nice work Morgan
but now you built the PD , and your PD become a big mystery to me , which device is better , PD or your Lrod ?

Morgan , if you help and i built a PD someday i promise you that i don't steal your country treasures:lol:

Hi Alex.
No, i never tried the Carl MFD. Now about the distance, maybe i have right, maybe you are right. We receive signals from distance longer than 500m, but some times we have false signals. So yes is more hardly to detect right a target from large distance, But it is Possible.

I speak for generator signal.......

Regards

Geo	12-09-2008 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi (Post 82670)

I think that the other frequencies are transmit frequencies. Here are ..... (i dont know :lol::lol:), but really work. Believe me, here at Greece a lot of people work with generator and rods with good results especially at coper, bronze and silver.At big quantities of gold there is a problem, we take the signal but we cant locate the center. Always the center is south of the point that the rods see:(.

Regards:)

Geo	12-09-2008 04:22 AM

One edit.....
At my reply with photos i wrote inverter from 12V to 225.5v, it is wrong:(.
Right is 12V to 25.5 V.

Morgan

12-09-2008 11:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo (Post 82657)

Coil around Magneto,in Rotor,it works,also some people use little rotor from broken speed car toy.;)

Morgan

12-09-2008 12:58 PM

The Buzzer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan (Post 82706)

Coil around Magneto,in Rotor,it works,also some people use little rotor from broken speed car toy.;)

Here is the complete Electronic RodAttachment 7226

Qiaozhi

12-09-2008 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan (Post 82709)

Here is the complete Electronic RodAttachment 7226

I presume that the rod on top is able to swing from side-to-side, and the coil inside the box detects the movement of the rod. Correct?

Geo	12-09-2008 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi (Post 82718)

I presume that the rod on top is able to swing from side-to-side, and the coil inside the box detects the movement of the rod. Correct?

Before some years i had a schematic with a 555 to drive a coil at VLF.The coil was externally of the axis of the rod. It seems about the same with Morgan's LRL rod. If i will find, i"ll attach it
Regards:)

Morgan

12-09-2008 06:57 PM

Rod

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi (Post 82718)

I presume that the rod on top is able to swing from side-to-side, and the coil inside the box detects the movement of the rod. Correct?

Yes,it swing,and the antenna is able to detect the signals reflected in buried objects, signal wave sent to ground by oncle Carl´s MFD frequence generator.
It works fine,but not so far from the MFD...

rospy

12-09-2008 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo (Post 82726)

http://www.postsmile.com/img/emotions/88.gif Geo στειλτω και σε μενα.....http://www.postsmile.com/img/emotions/200.gif

Qiaozhi

12-09-2008 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan (Post 82731)

So it's really a dowsing rod in disguise. :shocked:

aft_72005

12-10-2008 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan (Post 82655)

:|
Ok,if Geo put his L rods p00p box generator here in forum,i also can put this one made long time ago.
It beeps when find target. Patent not registrated

MFD with probes,Generator,Alarm system with Buzzer,Single Rod Antenna... Attachment 7218

Attachment 7219

Attachment 7220

Hi Morgan
Inside of receiver, you use ferrite with coil plus battery and
Small circuit . Why?
Please upload receiver circuit. Also more explain.
Best regards .

aft_72005

12-10-2008 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo (Post 82726)

Hi Geo
I impatient , seeing circuit diagram.
Best regards.

Geo	12-10-2008 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rospy (Post 82740)

http://www.postsmile.com/img/emotions/88.gif Geo στειλτω και σε μενα.....http://www.postsmile.com/img/emotions/200.gif

Καλως το παιδι.
Ειναι αυτο που εψαχνα χθες στον υπολογιστη και δεν το βρηκα. Εαν το πετυχω καπου θα στο στειλω
:)

Geo	12-10-2008 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aft_72005 (Post 82755)

Hi Geo
I impatient , seeing circuit diagram.
Best regards.

Hi Aft...
I have long time to see it :(
If i will find it, i"ll post it here. But for me, use simple rods in bearings and you are OK:)

aft_72005

12-10-2008 04:17 AM

Quote:

Thanks for pictures , did you built the carl MFD and test it on a long range target?

Hi Great Alex :)
I built Carl MFD some years ago. For test, put some old silver coin
In the ground and behind it at soil. Apply 8.7 kHz sine wave with 20vpp
To ground probe . Carl did use 7.8khz , but I read at old geotch forum that
Esteban Said, correct frequency for silver is 8.7 kHz.
For transmitter I use 10 MHz Philips function generator.
Sometimes I feel that the two Lrods mention to silver coins and sometimes
I didn’t that feel. Sometimes I feel that the two Lrods, crossover on target
Location. And sometimes nothing any . I was astray in the matter. :frown::frown::frown:
Also I read more times at forum which Lrods , didn’t work . Then I stopped
My examination with Lrods. Until yet , Geo said me , MFD working .
Also Morgan picture show , he found some coins .
Best regards.

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