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Mike(Mont) 01-13-2014 01:28 PM

Okay I get your point, but Fitz has a lot more at stake. He had a large customer base and he knows a lot more about it. I don't know if you saw their calculator video. The guy spins the thing around maybe 60 RPM and then zap, he stops it so it points in a direction. The amount of ideomtor required to stop the rotation is about a factor of 100 of a regular dowsing rod.

Mike(Mont) 01-13-2014 02:28 PM

I'm not here to try and tell you all LRL dealers are ethical. But let's not confuse things here. The calculator thingy is not what I consider to be an LRL. It is a disguised dowsing rod.

Qiaozhi 01-13-2014 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont) (Post 148134)
I'm not here to try and tell you all LRL dealers are ethical. But let's not confuse things here. The calculator thingy is not what I consider to be an LRL. It is a disguised dowsing rod.

Any LRL with a swingy handle, and something else attached that "enhances" the signal (whether it's a calculator, some do-nothing electronics, mobile phone, egg box, or whatever) is a disguised dowsing rod. This also includes any contraption (such as an MFD) that supposedly injects a signal into the ground.

So what do you consider to be an LRL?

Fred 01-13-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Qiaozhi (Post 148135)
Any LRL with a swingy handle, and something else attached that "enhances" the signal (whether it's a calculator, some do-nothing electronics, mobile phone, egg box, or whatever) is a disguised dowsing rod. This also includes any contraption (such as an MFD) that supposedly injects a signal into the ground.

So what do you consider to be an LRL?

I think random beeping devices should fall into the same category, the only difference being that you turn the device until the random beeping matches your goal.

Qiaozhi 01-13-2014 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred (Post 148137)
I think random beeping devices should fall into the same category, the only difference being that you turn the device until the random beeping matches your goal.

It's the mind's ability to hear patterns in the random noise, that is the most intriguing part of these devices. Far more subtle than a clumsy old swingy handle contraption. :D

Carl-NC 01-14-2014 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike(Mont) (Post 148133)
Okay I get your point, but Fitz has a lot more at stake. He had a large customer base and he knows a lot more about it. I don't know if you saw their calculator video. The guy spins the thing around maybe 60 RPM and then zap, he stops it so it points in a direction. The amount of ideomtor required to stop the rotation is about a factor of 100 of a regular dowsing rod.

Mike, some scammers take their scams seriously, and some scammers make such a joke of their scams that only people begging to be victims will bite. Both make for pretty good entertainment, and for pretty good study of human psychology.

Dell Winders 01-14-2014 05:48 AM

Hey Look! Carl is a psychologist now. Time for Carl, to Dave J, to go face to face and psychoanalyze each other. And to think of all the time Carl, has wasted on Qiaozhi :yo:

Dell

Nicolas 01-14-2014 03:57 PM

The frequency 100 hz .. 150 or 200 hz is not for MDF ...you need ever KHZ. For good MDF must be at least 60kHz
and also good power.

Look this details for frequency

http://www.kounooz.com/up/do.php?img=1722

http://www.kounooz.com/up/do.php?img=1723

http://www.kounooz.com/up/do.php?img=1724


http://www.techlib.com/electronics/allband.htm

mustefa ubram 06-15-2016 08:30 PM

1 Attachment(s)
I've looked at again pdf-1000 system Produces 32 Hz frequency oscillator for gold.But the frequency is not transmitted to the ground:|:oh:And the output is connected to the GND system:oh:
The signal goes to 4 coils for Wheatstone bridge and finally telescopic antenna.
What do you think? What is the reason for this work?

Mike(Mont) 06-17-2016 12:51 PM

I don't know much about electronics, but that is not a wheatstone bridge.

mustefa ubram 06-17-2016 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike(Mont) (Post 153483)
I don't know much about electronics, but that is not a wheatstone bridge.

Ok mike.
Same weathston birdge .:)

UltraLRL 06-17-2016 06:15 PM

Wheatstone AC Bridge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont) (Post 153483)
I don't know much about electronics, but that is not a wheatstone bridge.

It's Wheatstone AC Bridge!!!
http://www.electronicsproject.org/wp.../ac-bridge.jpg

Read more at:
http://electronicsproject.org/wheatstone-ac-bridge/

Qiaozhi 06-17-2016 07:32 PM

Mike is correct. It's not a Wheatstone bridge.

Post #34 shows 4 inductors in series that loop back to the same point, Basically, they're might as well not be there. The design is just the usual rubbish - a few random components thrown together to fool the technically challenged.

Mike(Mont) 06-20-2016 02:18 PM

I'm not here to defend Bob Fitzgerald's high prices. Like I said I am not that versed in electronics but my logic skills are decent. So my first observation is that skeptics cannot seem to understand that if the designer put it there, it has some purpose. I don't care to discuss my thoughts about how I think it works. But I know well how the skeptic mind works: Refuse to accept something you are envious of (or afraid it might eat into the metal detector profits) and come up with a thousand excuses why it won't work, but never admit the real problem is operator error. It's called the blame game and those who subscribe to it are called prisoners of blame.

WM6 06-20-2016 08:09 PM

The Sorrows of Young Werther (which fall in love with LRL), walking one direction over Wheatstone bridge.

Qiaozhi 06-20-2016 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike(Mont) (Post 153513)
So my first observation is that skeptics cannot seem to understand that if the designer put it there, it has some purpose.

But it's obvious why the designer put it there. :rolleyes:

goldfinder 06-28-2016 07:04 PM

scam
 
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Originally Posted by Qiaozhi (Post 153515)
But it's obvious why the designer put it there. :rolleyes:

Yes - it is called a scam!


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