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sweatofglory 03-09-2009 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PanZero (Post 86205)
Maybe... But i dont know how.


Fine tuning your frequency is the key! GOOD LUCK....:):):)

sweatofglory 04-16-2009 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanZero (Post 86205)
Maybe... But i dont know how.

Au frequency: 142.4Hz
Range : 75 feet
Depth : 3 feet

Geo 04-17-2009 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sweatofglory (Post 85565)
Hi GEO,

In your own field experience, Is it ok to use 5khz for gold 5lbs and above?
Thanks and more power!

Hi.
No i did n't tried at so big gold objects :frown:
I tried at some coins (about 190 gold coins ). Also i tried at 15kgr copper (other frequency) and it went exactly up of the object center.

Regards :)

Geo 04-17-2009 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sweatofglory (Post 88149)
Au frequency: 142.4Hz
Range : 75 feet
Depth : 3 feet


142.4 Hz or Khz???
How big was the object???
Regards:)

sweatofglory 04-23-2009 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Geo (Post 88172)
142.4 Hz or Khz???
How big was the object???
Regards:)

142.4Hz. more than 15kgs.

Morgan 04-25-2009 01:19 AM

Gold Frequence
 
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Originally Posted by Esteban (Post 84055)
Around good conductive metals buried for long time exists a magnetic and electric field, this make the difference with the vecinities in the soil... Also can exist re-radiadated radio waves... The main problem is to detect small items at great depth, but big treasures is great in "emission".

Hello Esteban

During my searches with Pistoldetektor very often i find aluminium scrap and foil...Finaly i made one modification in PD to avoid this unwanted metals,and now it works only with noble metals,detection range not afected.
If you are interested to know more about this,just send PM.
Again,thanks a lot for your explanations about LRL´s and the phenomenom.
It seems the Key to detect only the Gold frequence depends on electromagnetic resonance produced by sample connected to Receiver circuit.

Regards

hung 04-25-2009 12:21 PM

Keep researching and you will get to isolate only gold. Not silver, bronze, etc. There's not only correct resonance involved. There's also phase and other things.

Our MIDAS can detect a gold coin for instance at incredible distances even if there's silver, iron, etc. on top of it.

Theseus 04-25-2009 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hung (Post 88527)
Keep researching and you will get to isolate only gold. Not silver, bronze, etc. There's not only correct resonance involved. There's also phase and other things.

Our MIDAS can detect a gold coin for instance at incredible distances even if there's silver, iron, etc. on top of it.

Would incredible distances be several inches, several feet, hundreds of yards or a couple of miles?

Where is the public evidence of detection at incredible distances? A YouTube video would be good. Talk is cheap, demonstrate it.

When does the debunkering begin?

sweatofglory 04-25-2009 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hung (Post 88527)
Keep researching and you will get to isolate only gold. Not silver, bronze, etc. There's not only correct resonance involved. There's also phase and other things.

Our MIDAS can detect a gold coin for instance at incredible distances even if there's silver, iron, etc. on top of it.

Hi,

I agree with you. 5grms Gold = 5kms distance

Morgan 04-26-2009 12:13 AM

Midas ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hung (Post 88527)
Keep researching and you will get to isolate only gold. Not silver, bronze, etc. There's not only correct resonance involved. There's also phase and other things.

Our MIDAS can detect a gold coin for instance at incredible distances even if there's silver, iron, etc. on top of it.

Ok,i dont say that i have developed better LRL than you & your TEAM,i´m not E.Engeneer,but now the Pistoldetektor is more selective,i change Ferrite for other thing,it works,only Gold or Silver.
I send details to Esteban,he will analize and make his conclusions,or maybe laugh about this...
What i can tell you is the PD get much more LRL signals than any Mineoro (i have 3 Mineoro models),Mineoro is obsulet in bad ground conditions and not catch little objects,this happens in my contry.

Morgan 04-26-2009 12:20 AM

LRL,limited distances
 
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Originally Posted by Theseus (Post 88533)
Would incredible distances be several inches, several feet, hundreds of yards or a couple of miles?

Where is the public evidence of detection at incredible distances? A YouTube video would be good. Talk is cheap, demonstrate it.

When does the debunkering begin?

Distances with LRL elektronik devices are limited,if the person who sell LRL talk about MILES is a liar,this is fantasy. The true is one coin 2 or 4 meter distance and one treasure 15m to 80m,this is the reality if using LRL based at frequencies+electromagnetic resonance.

Morgan 04-26-2009 12:31 AM

THE REAL CHALLENGE
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hung (Post 88527)
Keep researching and you will get to isolate only gold. Not silver, bronze, etc. There's not only correct resonance involved. There's also phase and other things.

Our MIDAS can detect a gold coin for instance at incredible distances even if there's silver, iron, etc. on top of it.

Today i can say to you,come here to my field test,where exist gold buried many years ago,and i CHALLENGE you,if you catch the gold medal more than 2 meters distance i give you one price. My PD detect gold medal 2m distance very easy,come here and try your LRL devices.

The price is my Pistoldetektor

Geo 04-26-2009 04:40 AM

Hi Morgan and Hung.
What about the weather and temperature that needing to work your PD? Before 2 days i was at a mountain where there are old treasures and tried my PD but without results. Temperature was low and one day before had rained

Regards:)

Geo 04-26-2009 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sweatofglory (Post 88440)
142.4Hz. more than 15kgs.

Thank you. I must locate a big treasure (more than 100Kgr gold) so i will try and this frequency. Generator output is 20V P-P at 4 Ohm load. I believe that it is ok for a distance 300... 400m

Regards :)

detectoman 04-26-2009 10:48 AM

hello morgan, why you no think anyone can detect to most distance what you can
esteban says he can detect objectives to most of 50 mts, hung can quit your pd jajja remember he has friends whit lrls of alonso
be cautelous because your pd can go whit hung jajaja
one embrace my lrl genius'
atte. dman

detectoman 04-26-2009 10:55 AM

geo; i see, isnt easy work whit soil weat in use of frecuence oscilation in conection direct whit electrodes, in excesive weat humedad, the electrodes short circuit one to other closed the field, and not go away, very little weat in soil help, but very much not, i think electricity of electodes colapse in contact near the emision, may be is succes whit one to one, electrodes separated to large distance
regards dman

detectoman 04-26-2009 11:06 AM

you morgan have the pd succes in function because you can copy in direct of pd of alonso, but pd is not easy to clone, is very demasiado critic, are two power detectors in one, the tx and other , rx
for right function is neccesary put equal same,s two and other afinations, but all is possible in lrls, you not be esceptic in think lrl go to 100 mts, remember lrl work whit rf, not menosprecie to hung, less to esteban jaja
you soon can has one lrl power can detect to the gold in the moon
best regards my dear friend
dman

Morgan 04-26-2009 08:33 PM

PD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo (Post 88552)
Hi Morgan and Hung.
What about the weather and temperature that needing to work your PD? Before 2 days i was at a mountain where there are old treasures and tried my PD but without results. Temperature was low and one day before had rained

Regards:)

My PD only have problems with storms or rainy days,as nothing to do with electrostatic.

Morgan 04-26-2009 08:37 PM

PD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by detectoman (Post 88558)
hello morgan, why you no think anyone can detect to most distance what you can
esteban says he can detect objectives to most of 50 mts, hung can quit your pd jajja remember he has friends whit lrls of alonso
be cautelous because your pd can go whit hung jajaja
one embrace my lrl genius'
atte. dman

Tropical weather in Paraguay ,all this humidity produce more electric field around buried metals,but the challenge is here,with european weather.
No problem to give my PD to the winer

Morgan 04-26-2009 11:18 PM

The PHENOMENON
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esteban (Post 84055)
Around good conductive metals buried for long time exists a magnetic and electric field, this make the difference with the vecinities in the soil... Also can exist re-radiadated radio waves... The main problem is to detect small items at great depth, but big treasures is great in "emission".

Hi Esteban

I agree 100% with you about this PHENOMENON explanations.
In Pistoldetektor,the Passive Receiver working alone cannot detect very weak eletromagnetic field around small buried objects,so it needs one external stimulator of pulses to work in limit,and with the exact frequence/resonance its possible to reject the unwanted targets,thats what i have done,it works and i´m open to start challenge against other LRL´s.
Thanks to answer my thread and to find interest in the changes i have done in my pistoldetektor.

Regards

Esteban 04-26-2009 11:27 PM

1 Attachment(s)
STIMULATOR COIL. Find best distance. Stimulator coil is in this position.

Morgan 04-26-2009 11:42 PM

Old DCH
 
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Originally Posted by Esteban (Post 88597)
STIMULATOR COIL. Find best distance. Stimulator coil is in this position.

I agree. This is the same oscilator used in old DCH Mineoro. Geo told about one treasure found in Greece 80m distance,with Mineoro DCH .
As you told,treasures irradiate more electric field,detection range can be even biger than 80m.

detectoman 04-27-2009 02:47 PM

hola, hola esteba y morgan, hace tiempo esteban preguntaba que cual era la causa de que un tesoro pudiera detectarse y se decia que era el efecto bateria, o que podria ser fenomeno ionico, en el caso del pd yo tengo una teoria de que es lo que detecta, y lo comprendo porque si yo arrastro un desarmador de acero contra un metal cercano a una extension electrica el pd suena, y concluyo que son las peque/nas chispas de electricidad estaticas las que hacen pitar el aparato, y tambien con rayos distantes el pd suena, suena pues con las cargas de cierta clase de corriente electrica, parecidas a la estatica que puede producir un peine energizado, y entiendo que las monedas sueltan pequenas cargas de chispas entre si, o descargas, entonces el pd como es un detector de radio frecuencia las detecta, o tambien es que el pd lanza electricidad por medio del campo magnetico del omega y hace short circuits
podria ser que otro tipo de lrl funcione de otra manera detectando el halo, pero en el pd, son las cargas estaticas que sueltan entre si las monedas continuamente y en el caso de las monedas que encontro morgan estas soltaban muchas chispas por eso le fue facil, y una sola moneda solo suelta pequenas chispas contra la tierra y es mas dificil de detectar ya que estas chispas son mas debiles y mas ocasionales
el pd es para medianos entierros
otro abrazo
dman.

detectoman 04-27-2009 02:52 PM

concluyo pues que es el calor del sol al calentar la tierra que hace que se carguen electricamente y independientemente las monedas ya que estan aisladas por medio del oxido adquirido a traves de los a/nos y entonces sufren pequenas descargas electricas como mini baterias, y sueltan corrientes entre si, y si son muchas las descargas son mas fuertes y detectadas a distancia, simples baterias
dman

detectoman 04-27-2009 02:54 PM

para mi que son tres o hasta cuatro tipos de emanaciones que despiden los tesoros, gases halo electricidad y radiacion
dman.


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