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okantex 10-28-2012 09:27 PM

Dear Nicolas,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_(radio_navigation)

11khz-12khz are russion alpha navigation radio frequencies..
thanks for your kind search and info.
you are a kind man.

Nicolas 10-28-2012 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okantex (Post 143924)
Dear Nicolas,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_(radio_navigation)

11khz-12khz are russion alpha navigation radio frequencies..
thanks for your kind search and info.
you are a kind man.

Hi Okantex
You are welcome
And in my LRL I use VLF 40 - 60KHZ sound wave

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLF

thx for this link and search :thumb:

okantex 10-28-2012 09:48 PM

Hi Nicolas,
I thin you are using NSY italy ,or SXA greek ,
what is your LRL look like, ,is it the one in your avatar?


JJY-40(7)40000Mount Ootakadoya, Fukushima prefecture, Japan
Locator: QM07kiN 37° 22' 21.35"
(+37.372598°)E 140° 50' 56.06"
(+140.848906°)http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/google.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/windows.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/yahoo.pngNAU40800Aguada, Puerto Rico
Locator: FK68jjN 18° 23' 55.54"
(+18.398762°)W 067° 10' 39.36"
(-067.177599°)http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/google.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/windows.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/yahoo.pngNSY45900Niscemi, Italy
Locator: JM77fdN 37° 07' 32.37"
(+37.125660°)E 014° 26' 11.10"
(+014.436416°)http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/google.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/windows.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/yahoo.pngSXA49000Marathon, Greece
Locator: KM28adN 38° 08' 42.61"
(+38.145170°)E 024° 01' 10.95"
(+024.019709°)http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/google.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/windows.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/yahoo.pngGYW151950Crimond, UK
Locator: IO97boN 57° 37' 2.87"
(+57.617464°)W 001° 53' 15.34"
(-001.887595°)http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/google.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/windows.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/yahoo.pngMSF(8)60000Anthorn, UK
Locator: IO84ivN 54° 54' 40.30"
(+54.911195°)W 003° 16' 45.49"
(-003.279302°)http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/google.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/windows.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/yahoo.pngWWVB(9)60000Fort Collins, Colorado
Locator: DN70lqN 40° 40' 39.80"
(+40.677722°)W 105° 02' 49.75"
(-105.047153°)http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/google.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/windows.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/yahoo.pngJJY-60(10)60000Mount Hagane, Fukuoka prefecture, Japan
Locator: PM53clN 33° 27' 55.56"
(+33.465433°)E 130° 10' 31.49"
(+130.175415°)http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/google.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/windows.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/yahoo.pngFUG62600La Régine, France
Locator: JN13bj

Nicolas 10-28-2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by okantex (Post 143926)
Hi Nicolas,
I thin you are using NSY italy ,or SXA greek ,
what is your LRL look like, ,is it the one in your avatar?


JJY-40(7)40000Mount Ootakadoya, Fukushima prefecture, Japan
Locator: QM07kiN 37° 22' 21.35"
(+37.372598°)E 140° 50' 56.06"
(+140.848906°)http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/google.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/windows.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/yahoo.pngNAU40800Aguada, Puerto Rico
Locator: FK68jjN 18° 23' 55.54"
(+18.398762°)W 067° 10' 39.36"
(-067.177599°)http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/google.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/windows.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/yahoo.pngNSY45900Niscemi, Italy
Locator: JM77fdN 37° 07' 32.37"
(+37.125660°)E 014° 26' 11.10"
(+014.436416°)http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/google.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/windows.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/yahoo.pngSXA49000Marathon, Greece
Locator: KM28adN 38° 08' 42.61"
(+38.145170°)E 024° 01' 10.95"
(+024.019709°)http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/google.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/windows.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/yahoo.pngGYW151950Crimond, UK
Locator: IO97boN 57° 37' 2.87"
(+57.617464°)W 001° 53' 15.34"
(-001.887595°)http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/google.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/windows.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/yahoo.pngMSF(8)60000Anthorn, UK
Locator: IO84ivN 54° 54' 40.30"
(+54.911195°)W 003° 16' 45.49"
(-003.279302°)http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/google.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/windows.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/yahoo.pngWWVB(9)60000Fort Collins, Colorado
Locator: DN70lqN 40° 40' 39.80"
(+40.677722°)W 105° 02' 49.75"
(-105.047153°)http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/google.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/windows.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/yahoo.pngJJY-60(10)60000Mount Hagane, Fukuoka prefecture, Japan
Locator: PM53clN 33° 27' 55.56"
(+33.465433°)E 130° 10' 31.49"
(+130.175415°)http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/google.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/windows.png http://sidstation.loudet.org/icones/yahoo.pngFUG62600La Régine, France
Locator: JN13bj


Hi Okantex
You are right

ANDREAS 10-29-2012 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by okantex (Post 143922)
do you mean alfa signals, like11-19khz or lower sperics

Hi Okantex
I think for your question is better ask member nicolas.
I have this urge to update all members (not required), but when other members try to make comparisons or to present their own manufacturing, prefer to me stop here. Ask those who know everything. Unfortunately I'm no expert ... in all technology
best regards

J_Player 10-29-2012 06:57 AM

I am reading this forum thread about the Crypton pocket LRL.
But what I see is posts about Russian alpha navigation radio frequencies, and brain wave frequencies.

When I ask Morgan if he has any information for field reports of the performance of the Crypton pocket, I do not see any answer... !
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...8&postcount=82

Maybe somebody has some field reports to tell from using the Crypton pocket.
I am interested to know the distance of detection observed in the field.
I am interested to know if the Crypton pocket is detecting ferrous metals or non-ferrous from people who have used the pocket to hunt for treasures.
I am also interested to know what treasures were recovered from the field when using the pocket.
Can you post your report here?


Best wishes :)
J_P

okantex 10-29-2012 08:57 AM

J_player ,
last night I watched youtube videos of crypton, it is a good machine ,distance is good,it is like PDK. ıt looks like working theory and phenomen is same.

Hi Andreas,
thanks for explanations , please do not be disturbed or annoyed form words of our members.like faces around you changing , our members manners , cultures , ages all are ,in a great range.this makes us a great family.sometimes ,some words of our friends look like they want to mean they know everything ,but be sure it is just the ourter look ,inner is different. Here in Geotech ,even the rudest one ,is in a way likes sharing electronic knowladge even they do not believe in the theory you are talking about.

I do offer you to use TBB frequency , indeed it is silent for a long time but with highest power when considered to other close stations , nowadays british transmitters are active around 20khz.

both crypton and pdk must have a adjustment to be tuned to those frequencies.

Andreas , you still did not reply to my question about your system, is there any frequency range.
pdk 150-170 khz
nicolas 40-60 khz
andreas ?

regards
Okantex

okantex 10-29-2012 09:00 AM

Andreas ,
I remember something like 30m distance 2,5M dept for crypton from videos ,
what is the detected max. dept till now , and what was the object, just want to know the size and metal type.

okantex 10-29-2012 09:03 AM

Nicolas ,

can you tell us alittle bit about your founds ,and your detector. it has just 6 frequncy selection control , no threshold adjustment.

ANDREAS 10-29-2012 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okantex (Post 143930)
J_player ,

both crypton and pdk must have a adjustment to be tuned to those frequencies.

Andreas , you still did not reply to my question about your system, is there any frequency range.
pdk 150-170 khz
nicolas 40-60 khz
andreas ?

regards
Okantex

Hi Okantex
I think send you, for my frequency work. I like very low freq. Usually i work with 27HZ

ANDREAS 10-29-2012 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okantex (Post 143931)
Andreas ,
I remember something like 30m distance 2,5M dept for crypton from videos ,
what is the detected max. dept till now , and what was the object, just want to know the size and metal type.

I say only success by customers
OBMD-1 find Silver plate 2.8 meters depth and 15 meters distance
OBMD-1 find 236 coins depth 80-100cm +30meters distance
OBMD-1 usually find one cooper coin <5mm diametre 3-8 meter distance
Last month I have a new, maybe a customer with OBMD-1 found 8500 Britain gold coins from WW2
Information is strong, but never been able to confirm this information. I think this is a myth or they don't want to tell me the truth.
OBMD-1 with my hands. Only coppers max depth 30cm max distance 15 meters
(i work with OBMD-1 model only for tests. Never i go for a real treasure-hunter. I like work with luck. For explain with my daughter search a unknow area)
Pocket. Tests only with my hands. Usually find small objects 3-10meters distance without cost. I am not lucky-man find silver or gold. Never find ferrous objects, pocket detect only non-ferrus. It's enough for me
For more infos via my customers (pocket) i have not. Remember is very new model. I think one month for test via customers is enough for real results
best regards

Nicolas 10-29-2012 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by okantex (Post 143932)
Nicolas ,

can you tell us alittle bit about your founds ,and your detector. it has just 6 frequncy selection control , no threshold adjustment.

Hi Okantex

In the first gun I used button for adjustment of threshold
But after one such experience. I found no need to do on the gun
So I integrated in the system with a preset advance

My findings the most interresting is a buyer of my gun is 154 pieces including 93 gold coins and the rest bronze. found in a tomb 1.80cm depth a distance of 600m
Now I'm working on another gun completely digital frequencies which is fixed and stable and I only play on the amplitude when I close a treasures

For our colleagues Andreas I'm not here to sell my manufacturing are so quiet
I'm just here to chat with our brethren and say that we know so well you knew the first time that I am with you and I encourage you to your new LRL. Although you do not read my comments.

Attached are some pictures.....

okantex 10-29-2012 02:27 PM

Dear Andreas ,
you are confusing my mind again , did you want to mean 27khz ?
you just written 27 Hz , it is even under 50-60hz electric line frequency.
so , you are using low pass filters to protect form electric signals.

I understand your words "No! I like use very-very low frequencies with cut-off filter 50-60HZ. " now.
but , I watch your videos , your detector is not like zahori, you do not need to swing it right-left when it is in the direction of target. sound looks like a reflection of time signals.

do you always have receiption , does it need any transmitter?
regards
Okantex

okantex 10-29-2012 03:17 PM

Nicolas,
do you have any test videos.
can you give links

ANDREAS 10-29-2012 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okantex (Post 143936)
do you always have receiption , does it need any transmitter?

I cannot understand this. Please exlain more

okantex 10-29-2012 03:43 PM

Dear Andreas,
as I know there is no transmitter at that much low frequency.
even spheric of lightning is above 1000HZ.and it is not available all the time.
but you need a constant transmitter to follow signals.
what is your device's working princible , what is it based on?
regards
Okantex

Nicolas 10-29-2012 03:52 PM

Please don't ask me here for my project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by okantex (Post 143937)
Nicolas,
do you have any test videos.
can you give links

I m sorry not have..

I retire
this topic is for my colleagues Andreas

I m sorry all
:frown:

BENZINAS 10-29-2012 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicolas (Post 143940)
I m sorry not have..

I retire
this topic is for my colleagues Andreas

I m sorry all
:frown:

Where are you from my friend , can you tell us ?

Qiaozhi 10-29-2012 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicolas (Post 143935)
Hi Okantex

In the first gun I used button for adjustment of threshold
But after one such experience. I found no need to do on the gun
So I integrated in the system with a preset advance

My findings the most interresting is a buyer of my gun is 154 pieces including 93 gold coins and the rest bronze. found in a tomb 1.80cm depth a distance of 600m
Now I'm working on another gun completely digital frequencies which is fixed and stable and I only play on the amplitude when I close a treasures

Is your LRL similar to a pistol? That is, does it give an audio indication of a target, or is the box mounted on a swinging handle?

Nicolas 10-29-2012 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi (Post 143942)
Is your LRL similar to a pistol? That is, does it give an audio indication of a target, or is the box mounted on a swinging handle?

Hi dear Qiaozhi

Yes it gives a visual indication as well as sound and the frequency of Cyble found

The handle is not connected to any voltage battery and it is fixed precisely to hold the gun

Best time

Nicolas 10-29-2012 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BENZINAS (Post 143941)
Where are you from my friend , can you tell us ?

Hi dear Benzians

It is stated in my profile and my comments. And the gun is not for sale

You are welcome...

humhum 10-29-2012 10:35 PM

Hi Nicolas, Your LRL maybe works with two Transmitter Antenna (58Khz) and one (middle) Receiver Antenna (for electrostatic or different for Hz) .
:)

Regards.

Nicolas 10-29-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by humhum (Post 143945)
Hi Nicolas, Your LRL maybe works with two Transmitter Antenna (58Khz) and one (middle) Receiver Antenna (for electrostatic or different for Hz) .
:)

Regards.


Hi Humhum

If you do the opposite you will succeed.......

Morgan 11-27-2012 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANDREAS (Post 143906)
Continue to have misconceptions about the diagram or you want to see what you believe. I don't use feritte. I use three coils (look with ZOOM wires in photo). I don't use shields. If you want to build this, it's difficult because they require precision molds.
regards

hi Andreas

how is going the little LRL POCKET ?

I search for news ,but cant find.

Regards

Morgan 11-27-2012 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan (Post 144534)
hi Andreas

how is going the little LRL POCKET ?

I search for news ,but cant find.

Regards

anyone from the forum who have tested this device ???


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