Colorado Gold Sticks
 

Hi to all do anyone know what is inside the Colorado Gold Sticks
$50 for this and not $500???
If you have one tell me about it.
Who make them and what is inside.
Low cost snakeoil????????????????

Yes, low-cost snake-oil. It's a AA battery, a toggle switch, and a piezo buzzer. That's all. Nicely packaged in a travel soap-case.

- Carl

They forgot to put the generator inside the box ???:lol: :lol: :lol:

Junk!! Avoid them like the plague!!
 

My Dad was so curious about them , that he broke down and bought them. Carl is right. They are more like a fisher- price toy , but without the quality. They are copper colored steel rods , bent L-shaped ( clothes hanger), enclosed in some jerry-rigged pvc handles. Very poor construction and the soap dish on a rope is a laugh :lol: . It has a high pitch sound , much like a dog whitsle and has a sticker on it that explains the warranty will be void if opened. First of all , there is no warranty , second have you ever seen a product that changing the battery would void its warranty? I personally talked to this man. He is a Rev. and swears that it works. All he is interested in is filling his offering plate with your money , change , gold , or whatever he can scam from you. You will walk around looking like a fool holding these gimmicks in your hand , and never find anything. I experimented with them , and have found that dowsing is nothing but a mind game. Those who believe in dowsing , are the ones that carry dog eared copies of the tabloids around.
I will be happy to provide photos of this product , if you would like to see what they really look like up close. In the ebay listing , the photos are poor quality. You can doctor any testimonial , and be a creative writer, and this is just what the Rev. has done in his listing. I cannot get him to produce any telephone #'s of these people , or addresses so I can interview them. Also his 700 and some odd number of feedbacks are not for this product. He sells an led flashlight set to clip on your detector , and very few of the gold sticks have been sold , or have feedback been reported on. There is a negative or two , the buyer puts it like it is. He calls them Toys for Tots :lol: , the Rev. replies and says the Loser never gave them a fair try. The only thing I can say for them is , you can get legs like professional body-builders from all the walking. He needs to change the name to Mega Legs walking sticks , because your legs will fall off before you find anything with them.
Take Care & HH , David

Gold sticks
 

Can you put pictures of inside of that thing for us to look at.:)

Your both silly and naive sentences above pretty much illustrates the line of thought in this forum and in some others. The complete lack of the ability to explain and accept complex subjects and the tendency to expose to ridicule phenomena which are not understood and thus accepted by conventional science. In fact conventional science cannot explain this at all, unfortunately many here only rely on it to back up their coments and obvously fall in disgrace.

Also in this forum ALL LRLs pose as non working devices. This is a falacy which I came to know by contacting users of some listed here and who are having sucess on their own.

We know that dowsing works to a lot of people. And also does not work to many.
I can explain this by citing a famous saying: 'God is not stupid to give wings to a snake'.

Food for thought: How this relates to what I said above?

PS: My friend told me the colorado gold sticks are working for him. Now what?

Let me see you must make money sell them (LRL)
 

If you are selling them ("You want all of us to be very stupid")
I look in side one of the snake oil unit and the circuit was a bull$!t junk parts mixed crap.Tell me this, how do GOLD give off a signal.
How can you tell a $1 from $5 or $100 bill.The signal would be so low the the gain of the electronics would be so much higher than Nasa stuff.:nono:
And you want to call some of us silly for wanting to know how this stuff works.IF YOU ARE A SELLER OF THE LRL you are a Wallet miner.
So are you a seller or a user of LRL?
Oh the earth is a big ground and you know what happens when things are grounded.

Maybe your friend is somehow involved in this scam?

Following are pics of my Colorado Gold Sticks.

What you get for $55:

The main box:

Inside the box:

I am from Brazil. No way I'm selling those. My point is that despite of the simplicity of the circuit and the probable fixed frequency (according to my friend the manual states that it will look for gold if no available, then silver and so on..) it works for some. Many dowsers use bent coat hangers(!) and they suceed.
Electronics , or the lack of it, is not what makes devices this type work. It's the human machine, a much more complex compound, interacting with other forces.

As for grounding, it depends. The Avramenko's fre electrons system does require no ground as the free electrons from atmosphere could not be tapped. But ground is important in other cases, since the earth is a capacitor itself.

He's from Brazil He just bought the product as he wanted a cheap dowsing rod system.

Some comments...

Everything is very crudely made, and hastily assembled. Looks like something I might have made in Cub Scouts when I was 8. Piezo volume is very low, probably a good thing so you don't attract too much attention, or annoy too many dogs. Battery flops around inside. I believe I read that opening the box voids the warranty... doesn't look like that's much to worry about.

Regarding prior comments, yes the "line of thought in this forum" is generally from a skeptical point. I've seen 20 years of LRL fraud. Garbage that only puts money in the manufacturers pocket, and nothing else. If any of these things worked worth a crap, my $25,000 would be easy pickins.

Some of these devices are outright laughable, like the Ranger-Tell Examiner and the Colorado Gold Sticks. I can see how people can be fooled by Mineoro, or OKM, or even Electroscope. But a calculator taped to a dowsing rod? A soap box that beeps? Really?? It hard to imagine that anyone would take any of this stuff seriously. But, they do.

Fortunately, with the Colorado Gold Sticks, it's an inexpensive lesson. Not so with Mineoro, Fitzgerald, or Electroscope.

- Carl

You know your challenge is an utopia.
You can transfer your statement above to Mineoro's claim of 50K if it DOES NOT WORK. Apply for it then.


What about those who attended the classes and graduated? :D

You are correct that they do illustrate the line of thought in this forum, and for one very good reason - they're true.

How wrong can you be?
This phenomena is very clearly understood. It is a well documented instance of the ideomotor response, and a trick of the mind. Many people throughout the world have been fooled by dowsing, and some even continue to fool themselves that it really works. :rolleyes:

There's one simple explanation - they don't work.

Hmmm... Crikey! We must all be wrong then! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
If your friend says they work, then what to say?? :???:

Silly is to waste money in my opinion. I will triple Carls reward if anyone wants to take me up on it. Tell your friends in Brazil , or any other third world country. None of them work ....... , does not matter what they call it , or who builds it. I was going to post pics. of this disected POS , but Carl beat me to it.
David

If they worked , your friend would be keeping his mouth shut just like anyone else would. Having a tool like this that worked would be like having the winning lotto ticket in your pocket. Your odds of hitting the lottery are much better than ever finding anything with an LRL.
David

In order to find treasure , you have to walk over it to begin with. People like to think that these gimmicks work so they dont have to work to find treasure. YOU HAVE TO WORK IN ORDER TO FIND TREASURE , there is no free ride. Treasure is not easy , a two box unit and do your homework for deep hoards. You will find treasure , but it still wont be easy. Suppose an LRL worked , you still would not find anything without doing some research. Like I said before , your legs will fall off. Every slight movement and the rods go every which way, making you think your on to something. I set a 1 ounce gold bar on my kitchen table and walked around it for hours , trying different techniques , and still did not get a response from the Colorado Junk Sticks. Now how is it going to find gold from any distance? The gold sticks are not my first rodeo with LRL's. I have experimented with dowsing many times before, and feel I have logged enough hours to say they do not work. Anything that sounds to good to be true , is useally an LRL.
David

Scam is right , probably an understatement. If the people behind these LRL's really thought they work , they would not be selling them. They would be to busy counting money and too tired from digging all that gold to worry about small change they make off the unit. I bet they are the same people telling you to send them $19.95 and they will show you how to make thousands in the pyramid scams. Think about it people.
David

Can't you all read between the lines????
Why some play soccer well and others just can't? Why Brazil is 5 time world cup winner and no other country can do it and will never beat Brazil for sure?
Why USA are kings in basketball and no other country can beat them?
Why some people can do open deep dives and other just can't?
Maybe trying to answer those questions help you to understand the 'whole'.

Skeptics logic: 'Dowsing does not work for me, so dowsing does not work at all.' :razz:

Case closed for me.
Sorry, have other things to do right now.

I saw dowsing:) working for other but not:angry: for me. Up to here no problem. The problem is that some constructors of dowsing trying to sell us dowsings that work in all, sorry:( but this is fraud:angry: .

Why, Why, Why.... Z z z z z z z z ....
 

"Read between the lines and try to understand the whole"? Ok I will try:

Why do people with search coil find lots of treasure and people who buy LRL find nothing?
Why does Hung always TALK about treasure from LRL, but never show PHOTOS of his LRLs recently finding great treasures?
Why does Hung care if people believe him, since his LRLs can find treasure whether people believe him or not?
Why is there no rich LRL people except those who sell LRLs?

Because LRL only work to find treasure in wallet of sucker? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

You are comparing things that can be acomplished to a certain extent. Sure some are better at things that actually work, like basketball games , and soccer games. You cant say the same for dowsing, because they dont work. Nobody will be better than anyone else with dowsing. If so , then they would have dowsing contests. My case is closed with you on this also. How can a few say it works , and thousands say its a gimmick? Who's right , who's wrong? If it were to appear in a court hearing , the makers of LRL's would lose their asses.
David

It's usually the dowsing and LRL believers that say skeptics do not have an open mind. When in fact it's the other way around. You are just not listening. Dowsing only appears to work because the mind is very adept at making you believe things that are not true.

Here's a nice little parlor game:

Take a length of thread and attach a small weight to the end. Then draw a cross on a piece of paper and suspend the weight over the cross. Try to keep your hand perfectly still, and concentrate on the weight. With the sheer power of your enormous mind you can make the weight move from side-to-side. After a while, will the weight to stop and then start oscillating in a vertical direction.

Such is the power of the ideomotor effect. You will swear that your hand was perfectly still during the whole experiment. So how was the weight able to move? My God, it must be a miracle! Or perhaps witchcraft!!

This is the same mind trickery that powers the Ouija board, table tipping and dowsing. C'est la vie!

WHAT A BUNCH OF IGNORAMUS BS!


Qiaozhi, you are not smart enough to think for other people, so quit trying. You are usually wrong, and you are only demonstrating your ignorance.

I know very well that it is the motion of my hand, and there is nothing bizzare, or aginst the laws of physics that causes the pendulum to move in a specific direction. If you think that I believe that dowsing is some sort of magic gift, illusion, or parlor trick, you are nuts, and you certainly don't speak for me.

FYI, Dowsing with a pendulum is totally reliant on a muscle Ideomoter response from the brain. It is the resource successful Dowsers utilize to access and visually communicate archived, or accessed information from our biological computers. (brain/mind)

If you were smart enough to think beyond the very limited knowledge of your text books, you would not be in denial of the God given ability of your own brain/mind, or think your deluded assumptions about Dowsing were intelligent.

Wake up, and stop trying to excell your Skeptic peers as an intellectual idiot. You are not quite dumb enough yet to accompolish that. Dell

DOH.... Ignoramus BS?
 

Hahahahahaaaa... The Ouija board wizard wants us to think Qiaozhi is trying to think for the rest of us? :razz:

Hahahahahaaa... Errr Dell, did you consider you are not smart enough to talk to any engineer in this forum? We engineers like science that is repeatable, not excuses for why equipment cannot be tested in a fair test. Now, I don't claim that you are not a dowser, a psychic, or a mentalist, or a combination of those things. We all are aware of the rare, highly gifted mentals whose god-given gifts can never be proven in person in front of witnesses for us to see (I once met a man who talked to invisible people in the sky that nobody else could see or hear except him, but he refused to show me these people until I said I believed him -- I still couldn't see or hear them after pretending to believe him). Now, as a retarded non-believer and second-rate engineer, I look up to the insights of those much more accomplished than me... like Qiaozhi and the others who consistently build equipment that actually will find a treasure in front of a group of witnesses.

If you really believe your god-given gift of dowsing can locate treasure, then let's both go to a field that has been cleared of all metal debris. Let Carl bury a 1-oz gold coin 4 inches below the ground in a 100 ft square plot of land in this clean field. You use your Colorado Gold Sticks, pendulums, dowsing tools, Omnitron, Mineoro, and any god-given mental gifts you have, while I will use my VLF detector and PI detector. We can invite a large crowd of LRL believers and searchcoil believers to watch the event. Let us see who's method works to locate the buried gold coin.

(hint: I bet you will whine that this is not a fair test, and also make comments to discredit me). :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

O.K. JPlayer, so you don't include God as a factor. And you have chosen to construe my words to fit your own limited mind set.

I never said that I, you, or anyone has a God given gift. That denotes an egotistical claim of chosen superiority. I make no such claims. I stated "ability" not gift. So, for your intellect I'll leave the word "God" out of the equasion and rephrase.

"If you were smart enough to think beyond the very limited knowledge of your text books, you would not be in denial of the inherhent ability of your own brain/mind, or think your deluded assumptions about Dowsing were intelligent."

You restrict your own mental capabilities through your own denial. But, the interest in learning and utilizing your own inherhent abilities and limiting your human potential is a personal choice you make for yourself, and have that right to do so.

I accept that your mockery of me is for the benefit and favor of your peers, but your earlier postings were far more logical and rational, and I suspect you have the ability to think out side the egotistical limitations of the technological box some here have confined themselves to under a scientific pretense.

As far as your test proposal, Yes it is rigged, and you are smart enough to know that. If the Treasures I search were within the depth limitations of a metal detector, I will use a metal detector. So if you wish to do a legitimate comparison test with your metal detector, then bury Carl,s little gold bar at least 6 foot deep in an area of least 5 acres and you will have the opportunity to learn the limitations of your metal detector, just as I have with more than 35 years experience in the use of metal detectors, under most all concievable conditions.

If you don't wish to learn from anothers broad experience in Treasure Hunting that's your business, but your mockery is a clear indication of your ignorance of a subject and the person you pretend to be knowledgeable about. Dell

Text Books??
 

What do text books have to do with this subject. You talk like a librarian instead of a treasure seeker. How much more fair can that challenge get. Your being silly , thinking anyone that has used a detector would go after a coin of any kind buried 6ft. The Colorado Junk sticks would have you on another planet if you followed them far enough. Then you can argue with the aliens. , but you still would come up empty handed. You could stand inside Fort Knox. and not get a response from that garbage. Does Fort Knox need to be buried 100ft. so that the Junk Sticks can get a proper tune on it? So far knowbody can back the claims up of any dowsing or LRL. Why not be the first , and stop all this BS about I know they work , etc. , etc. PROVE IT!! ANYBODY!! And by the way , what does god have to do with it? Bible thumpers refer to them as witching , or work of witches. Are you one?
David

Re: Ignoramus BS?
 

So you are saying that a metal detector with a searchcoil can find the gold bar buried four inches when dowsing and LRL's cannot?

What do you believe then? Your table top antics at detecting treasure from a distance defies the laws of physics, but is adequately explained by the psychology of the mind. Even dowsing in the field is a mind trick. You are fooling yourself into believing a bunch of BS, and for that alone I feel sorry for you.

"archived information" - so there is no interaction with some mysterious external field then? No signal lines? It's all coming from your mind, or "biological computer"? You're only confirming what has been said before by myself and other skeptics. It's a mind trick.

The human brain/mind does not have the ability to influence external objects at a distance. You are sadly deluded if you think that is true.
FYI - there is no deity involved when it comes to metal detecting.

I can asssure you that I am very much awake, and I'm not as dumb as you look. :D

Silly is to waste money in my opinion. I will triple Carls reward if anyone wants to take me up on it. Tell your friends in Brazil , or any other third world country. None of them work...

Ok, ok, but remember that people of first world build it (Canon City, Co, USA), or not? :lol:

If I want one of this, I build myself... better!!! :lol:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Colorado-Gold-St...QQcmdZViewItem

The quoted reference I replied to refers to Dowsing & LRL believers.
Believing, and knowing are two different categories.

I don't speak of, Dowsing, or LRL's or USE what I BELIEVE will work. I only use what has proven to work and be of practical use in searching for the type of deep buried Treasure I enjoy hunting for. Conventional metal detectors aren't designed, or intended for my type of searches. So unless those of you practicing Judgemental Idiocies can provide me better, less time consuming, and less expensive methods for me to obtain research information, and field data than with the proven Dowsing, LRL, and geophysical methods I presently use, You are only displaying your total ignorance of the subjects with non-sensical BS rhetoric, mockery, and denial of your own brains un-used abilities.

You have built yourself a mental block to prevent your comprehension of the simplest logic of, "What has already been done, can be done." Everything I speak of has already been done.

I don't know anything about Ouija boards, that I am falsely accused through Ignorance, prejudice, or both. I have never used one.

I don't know anything about the Piezo mechanism used with the Co. Gold Sticks. I have never owned, tested, or compared their method so I can't honestly say it does, or doesn't work, or to what extent.

No David, I am not a witch, unless you are comparing me to those who were hung, or burned by the skeptics for exercising the sensible logic of applying mold to heal an open sore, or wound. In modern days Scientist refer to its derivative as, Penicillin.

FYI, the bible speaks of Divination, the prophesying of events. It would be nice, but Dowsing from my bio-computer doesn't have that capability any more than any other computer as far as I have yet learned.

You are free to "believe" what you wish, and "believing" what you hear and write about me is exactly what you are doing, without establishing a basis of fact or truth. In my opinion, that is a very prejudiced , and un-scientific approach for people who claim to respect Science.

Live to learn, my friend.

"THE DOOR TO UNDERSTANDING & KNOWLEDGE IS NEVER OPEN TO A PREJUDICED OR CLOSED MINDSET. Dell

More of the usual diatribe... :frown:

I agree
 

And remember to buy your shocks from an American manufacturer. Remember when Brazilian based Cofap came to America? Kingsport , TN? They nearly ruined a few American car companys by building those junk shocks for them In turn lots of recalls followed. Lets not go into what Brazilians can build. f I remember right Magneti Marelli had bought Cofap and got rid of those cheap *** Argentina built welders. They should stick to fixing flats on Fiats:lol:

Hey man, your knowledge of this crap really hardly overcomes that of a bacteria.

I could cite hundreds of american scams done here or to the world, but:

1 - MacDonalds : Besides poisoning AND KLLING a lot of people in the world, sells his worm meat hamburger as beef.

2 - Raytheon. Scamed brazilian government by selling junk radar systems for SIVAM , the amazon surveillance system, as top of line technology.
It hurts to see we being made fool.

Get a life .

I will triple Carls reward if anyone wants to take me up on it.
 

Now Carl's $25,000 plus $75,000 that is $100,000.
THAT IS WHAT WE CALL MONEY TALKS AND BULLS#IT WALKS
Someone with a FG80 go and take the money and run.:razz:

Still waiting, dont see any FG80's showing up either.

[quote=hung;51902]Hey man, your knowledge of this crap really hardly overcomes that of a bacteria.

I could cite hundreds of american scams done here or to the world, but:

1 - MacDonalds : Besides poisoning AND KLLING a lot of people in the world, sells his worm meat hamburger as beef.

2 - Raytheon. Scamed brazilian government by selling junk radar systems for SIVAM , the amazon surveillance system, as top of line technology.
It hurts to see we being made fool.

Are you a moron ? , did your mom drop you off a cliff? This is an American based forum , and you are bashing Americans , are you that stupid? What are you doing here in the first place. Do you not have any soccor balls to play with? McDonalds probably wants to poison you in one way or another. That food is unhealthy anyway you look at it. It does not need any help. Is that the only two things you can think of ? You better do better than that , sounds like you have been reading tabloids as well as the other LRL believers. You need to get with the program , and get in the right century , you may get a rude knock on your door if you keep bashing America. We have a trigger happy cowboy in office that loves to play WAR. Dont be a fool and let your mouth run off before you think. .....................

Both sides need to stick to the subject, and cut out the nationalistic sniping. This is a technology forum, open to everyone on Earth. Thanks.

I agree Carl , Topic was getting wild. I dont think I need to discuss it anymore. I can back my mouth up in more ways than one.

[quote=KneeDeep;52247]This is not the first time by any means, that a Skeptic has threatened an LRL user, or Dowser, with physical, or libelous harm. It appears to be a characteristic trait of the Skeptic groups closed minded, prejudice mentality. Dell

[QUOTE=Dell Winders;52253]That's quite a reach Dell. I expected better from you. You know that was totally out of context.:nono:

Careful Rudy :rolleyes:
With Dell's awesome paranormal ability, he might slip along the astral plane one evening to visit you in your sleep for some malevolent dowsing activity. Remember the power of the dark side. :cool:

Bull Sh#t *****************(I hate scammers)
 

[quote=Dell Winders;52253]************************************************** ***********

If you sell scam you need to be tar and feathered.
Taking people hard earn money by a Scam is like a thief and you know what happens to them if caught.
IF YOU SELL A SCAM BE READY TO PAY THE PRICE.
BUT IF YOU HAVE A REAL WORKING LRL I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU.
SCAMMERS YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE...........................................:ang ry: :nono: