[Ernie]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

In fact, you cannot arrive at such a conclusion ... unless you are also self-deluded.

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

The reality is that 100% of the population are unable to use dowsing to locate water. Note that this is subtly different to saying that dowsers have never been successful, as even a blind man on a dark foggy night can sometimes find water.

You should really be saying that B% of the population believe they can use the dowsing method to find water. You are currently making an erroneous assumption. As I stated previously, the other questions are pointless.

Qiaozki wan'ts to play the game - Is the glass HALF full or HALF empty?. You would have to be a HALFWIT to play that game. I wanted to start a type of family tree with this thread to find a science explanation for dowsing. So o.k. QIAOZKI can’t find water so unfortunately his tree in this tread has died of dehydration and anyone in the B% will hopefully be able to make conversation WITHOUT Qiaozki tree rising up from the ashes ever again. Maybe Qiaozki can better spend his time deciphering Estebans broken English explanations of how his FM works. ie As they say in the Australian mining industry - f off ya halfwit!!


Pheeww! I thought we wouldn’t get this far within 24 hrs.
Well I for one can say that I both believe and have physically found water via divining so I am in B% that can AND therefor the B% exists and should be alowed freedom of speach on this forum. Maybe with some more of the same positive communication we can all take the “pseudo” out of this “medieval evil pseudo science” and give it a righteous place and scientific explanation. The main reason it became medieval evil pseudo science was in the first place that scientist did not have the knowledge, tools , experience and manpower to answer how it works and they answered to their sponsors the churches, so the churches there for called it evil “the work of the devil”. A funny thing I find with the narrow minded Christian churches and dowsing is before the medieval times their bible was different. Modern day Luke5 describes how Jesus taught the masses how to divine schools of fish. But today’s post medieval bible has been edited by a medieval religious scholar thinking he was a greater messiah than Jesus and now does not describe that he ( Jesus ) used a fishes tail as a divining rod just as you would use a forked stick for water. Maybe before proceeding I should change my online name from Ernie to Satan 666.
Ionic solutions in water, why yes! I would think that it would depend on the elements that are leaching into the water flow to determine the overall charge of the stream, but it does sound logical that ionic solutions flow underground. y/n? Then it may be a thought that these spare electrons or lack of spare electrons in the ionic solns cause a type of current flow similar to that in copper wire but at a speed of the stream speed y/n? If so then a very slow changing voltage difference would occur down the path of a stream and also a magnetic field would be present y/n?
O.k. so the L rods aren’t detecting the water (y/n)? But they may be part of a circuit that is, similar to an antenna in a receiver, or glasses for seeing, a type of extension of the main detector. y/n? My main question still remains. Which forces are involved? Gravity? y/n? The water flows down hill due to gravity until it gets to its (onion type) layer in the planet. (I think everyone will say yes) When I divine with L rods is my brain sensing this via balance in the ear drums or senses elsewhere, and stimulating my muscles (internal body current flow) on one side of my body in an attempt to regain balance, which in turn charges one rod and causes them to come together? Y/n? Sounds reasonable to me, if I was using metal rods.
An interesting experiment I did once was after detecting the center of a known underground stream I then placed one rod into the ground (a type of electrical earth) the other rod swung quickly towards the direction of the current flow underneath me. Maybe it was acting as a type of gravity field compass? Y/n or possibly the magnetic field of the stream underneath caused this to happen?? Y/n?
I still can’t get my head around a forked tree branch though, a known and tested 30,000 year old method for finding water. O.k. one hand will be charged a bit more than the other (like two plates in a capacitor) and the tree branch contains water and possibly an ionic solution, but this to me does not explain the force that twists the fork down to the underground water.
Happy prospecting
Ernie