'Nothing to do with electrons'... Really?? He,he,he,..
Next you will also say the outdated standard model will explain everything without even considering torsion, right?
I quit.

Some of us are like animals that were kept in captivity almost the whole life, and then when the gate is open, they don't know what to do.
PS. Meanwhile over TNET Ike has put Carl's back against the wall with a VERY interesting challenge. Much more than Carl's own BS.
Let's see how it develops.
Bye Geoskepthic.