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Originally Posted by Morgan
Hi Michael and Geo
One day all the mistery around working LRL´s and the PHENOMENON will be cientificaly proved...
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Hi Morgan,
I am beginning to wonder what you are talking about.
Science has already explained the reasons why the electronic circuits can cause beeps in your locator.
Let us review. Here are a series of posts that began with WM6 discussing the "PHENOMENON":
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Originally Posted by WM6
My dear dreamers, you are so excited and happy with "phenomenon", which is to some others horror fear:
Originally Posted by J_Player
I also have a question:Who says the "phenomenon" is a variation in the earth's magnetic field?
I don't believe anyone here has a clue what the "phenomenon" is.
The only understandable description I have ever heard is it is a place on the ground where people say their LRLs make beeps when they are pointed at the place.
We have numerous MFD LRL salesmen who say the "phenomenon" is magnetic. Dell Winders, for instance...
Magnetic field anomaly?
I don't think so.
Originally Posted by Morgan
yes,is magnetic anomaly,is very interesting when for example two silver coins are buried 3 meters from each other,the signal in PDK is confused and looks like a big area,this very dificult to pinpoint,much better when object is isolated,as you see in this videos.
Originally Posted by J_Player
Hi Morgan,
I do not believe two buried silver coins buried 3 meters apart from each other will create a magnetic anomaly.
I can think of some anomalies that silver coins can create which could be detectable, but not magnetic anomalies.
How did you conclude you found a magnetic anomaly when there are two silver coins buried 3 meters apart from each other?
Did you check with a magnetometer to see that these coins are creating a magnetic anomaly?
Or did you just guess that silver coins make a magnetic anomaly because your locator becomes confused?
Originally Posted by Morgan
MAGNETIC, DIAMAGNETIC and PARAMAGNETIC, not completely study,cientists need to learn much more...
Two years ago i was telling here about the PHENOMENON was located most of the times West to East and North to South,other times it as variations,but very rare to locate targets S to N. This hapens even with PDK-3 that still work without need of VHF waves.
Only recently i heard that Franco Italy(electrician Engeneer forum member) build one working LRL,and what he found? EXACTLY WHAT I KNOW ,same experiences i have years ago when test the PDK-2. Recently he declare to have build one working LRL,I´m not alone
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From what I can see, you have no clue what you are detecting, and this is the reason why you are calling it a
magnetic anomaly.
In case you didn't know this, scientists have studied more about magnetic, diamagnetic and paramagnetic properties of substances than you know.
And they can prove what they know about these subjects because they have instruments which work every time to show precise variations in a magnetic field.
They don't use a VLF transmitter or receiver to measure magnetic amomalies of objects that are in the ground.
They use magnetometers and gradiometers to locate magnetic anomalies in the ground.
I believe scientists know a lot more than you know about which kinds of phenomena can exist around buried metals.
If one of these scientist, such as a geophysicist saw how you determined two buried silver coins can create a magnetic anomaly, he would laugh at you.
He knows very well buried silver coins do not create a magnetic anomaly.
Before he gave you a lecture on the properties of magnetism, he would show you with his magnetometer that there is no magnetic anomaly caused by the buried coins.
Then he may explain some real science reasons why your locator might have directional properties.
However, you can continue to propagate pseudoscience to tell people this thing which you don't understand is a magnetic anomaly.
But it won't work to convince educated people.
It is easy for anyone to verify that there is no magnetic anomaly where there is buried gold or silver coins with their pocket compass.
Any intelligent person would conclude the locator prefers to search in certain directions.
They would not conclude they found a magnetic anomaly and scientists need to learn more about magnetism.
Have you ever considered that you built a locator which has magnetic sensitivity?
Did you know there are changes in the strength of the earth's magnetic field in various locations on the earth which happen suddenly every day?
Or did you consider your locator may have sensitivity to flowing electric currents?
Did you know there is a cycle of natural underground currents which run in specific compass directions at certain times of the day, then can reduce, or stop at other times of the day?
And these currents run different directions when you check them at different locations?
Did you ever consider your locator is responding to changes in these currents that travel under the ground?
Or maybe it is responding to other natural fluctuations that can be measured from the surface of the earth such as solar driven cycles?
Radio engineers know all about how atmospheric conditions change the way their transmitters and receivers work.
Maybe these natural and man made fluctuations are influencing chemical actions in the ground.
Have you considered that lunar cycles cause the ground water to move, and this can change the way VLF waves are absorbed in the ground from a hand-held transmitter?
Have you ever considered any of these things?
Of course not! You are too busy trying to convince yourself there is a magnetic anomaly caused by buried silver coins!
There are hundreds of other natural phenomenon such as these which scientists know of besides the ones I talked about.
Yet I see no evidence you have a clue that these natural earth fluctuations exist.
But one thing I know for certain is you will not find a magnetic anomaly caused by two buried silver coins, or gold coins either.
This makes me think you do not have a clue what this "phenomenon" is, and you call it by the name "phenomenon" because you don't know what kind of electronic signals your locator is detecting.
Now you want us to believe the "PHENOMENON" is real.
Well I don't believe it, and I don't think others are stupid enough to believe it either.
What you are calling "PHENOMENON" is another word for "IGNORANCE".
When you use the word "PHENOMENON" you are really saying you can't figure out what kind of electronic signals your locator detects or fails to detect, so you will call it "PHENOMENON".
After all, the "PHENOMENON" trick worked for Mineoro, when they said the phenomenon caused gold ions to rise 7 feet into the air, where they detected them, right?
Well they did not convince me. And neither does your "magnetic anomaly" ignorance convince me.
If there is a magnetic anomaly, then we would be able to watch our compass move when we walk over this supposed magnetic anomaly that you say is caused by buried silver coins.
Or if we wanted to be more accurate, we could check it with a magnetometer or gradiometer.
I don't believe we will find a magnetic anomaly caused by the two silver coins.
I think your "magnetic anomaly phenomenon"
does NOT exist.
Any directional response from your locator is caused by changes in natural earth currents or changes in the earth's magnetic field, or other natural earth cycles, not by buried coins. Maybe the directional properties are even caused by man-made electrical or magnetic events of some sort. But we will never know because your keep your circuits secret, and even you don't know what kind of signals they detect.
And now, you wait for science to explain what your detector detects.
Hahahaa.. that's a joke.
What scientist would try to guess what you have hidden inside your locators, or what signals it is responsive to?
The first thing they would ask is to open it up so they could test the circuit to see what it is detecting.
Then you would say you won't do it because it's a secret. He happy to know it detects the "PHENOMENON".
Then they would walk away laughing.
But I have a challenge for you: I will agree you found a magnetic anomaly if you prove it by showing us your compass become confused, or a magnetometer reading change to demonstrate that you found a magnetic anomaly when you move it over the location of your buried gold and silver targets.
The only thing I believe is I saw locators beep when they were pointed toward known buried metal locations, and they have directional properties that you don't understand.
All this "PHENOMENON" BS is simply fake pseudoscience propaganda you borrowed from Mineoro.
I believe that all the beeping you hear on your locators is caused by known principles of real science, and real electronics...
not by fake "phenomenon" BS claiming floating gold ions or magnetic anomalies where there is a buried gold or silver coin.
I think you don't know what electronic signals your detectors are detecting, so you call it "PHENOMENON".
And for this reason, you cannot understand why your locators stopped working.
The best you can guess is they stopped working because TV transmitters changed their frequency.
Maybe builders of the TOTeM understand a little more about the reality of electronics and geophysics.
At least they have a good set of instructions, and some world-class electronic engineers to ask for help.
Best Wishes,
J_P