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Originally Posted by leviterande
Interesting, I got a feeling as well that Andreas may have a real working idea. but not 100% sure.
Coming from an area quite far from gold hunting, I have researched also old articles, scientists papers , (of course not related to treasure hunting) that could indicate the ability to detect at large ranges. nothing exact at all of course. Do you know any of these sources , you know the "not so much talked about methods" , or a name of a scientist or these methods known for possible use in LRL? I ask because you said this :
But there are real long range locators that do really find long time buried metals such as gold, silver, copper, bronze, aluminum and others reliably from a long distance. These are not available for the general public to buy, and you will not find anything published about this technology in any treasure hunting forum.
or did you just refer to Andreas?
Best Regards
Karl l.
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Hi leviterande,
1.
The idea Andreas has is a correct idea. Both of the principles he uses are capable of detecting from a long distance, but both also have limitations which restrict their use to certain conditions. Andreas is not your typical LRL salesman. He is an electronic engineer who came here looking for a way to detect from long range just like you, and he spent a number of years researching and building prototypes before he found any kind of success in locating from a distance. The detection principles he uses do work. The only question is how well did he design his locators to reliably find buried treasure at a distance. This is something I don't know. I can only go by reports I received from forum friends who have used his locators. The reports I heard are good from all over the world, but I am only going by reports I heard, not hands-on experience.
If you decide to buy an LRL from him or anyone else, I would highly suggest you get it on a trial basis so you can test it for a week in the place where you hunt for treasure to make sure it works for you before handing over a large chunk of money. I know Andreas is not going to cheat anyone, and he might allow you to try one for awhile before you buy. But beware... most LRL companies are not willing to do that, in which case I would not buy no matter how good the advertising looks. most of what's available is crappy stuff you could build yourself for under $50 and doesn't work.
If you are interested in mfd principles, you might want to contact Tim Williams
http://lrlman.com/ . He seems like an honest person who sells MFD and dowsing aid tools, as well as his own design electronics that will map out your search area to show slight anomalies you might find from various metal detectors and GPR devices. He also is an authorized dealer for the Crypton locators that Andreas designed. Personally, I have never seen any confirmed success of any kind from MFD, and the principles behind it are contradictory to known science, so I don't go there.
Again, I wouldn't buy anything unless I had a chance to test it and see if it works where I want to hunt for treasure first. If I don't see performance that puts a big smile on my face and new treasures in my treasure vault, then I would send it back.
2. Little known LRL methods:
The best methods for long range are already in use by geologists - they use a number of electronic devices that tell them where things are located under the ground. See below for more about that.
Little known methods include Gamma isotope detection, colorimetric evaluations (from satellites usually), and a few others which don't seem to practical to me.
Name of a scientist? Armin Bickel... built hand-held long range detectors which could locate gold silver, copper, oil, water bodies, kimberlite and other things in the ground from a distance more than 5000 feet. See here:
http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...ad.php?t=11342
3. long range locating:
This is done mostly by geologists who are hired to find ore bodies at mines. They use a number of tools and instruments which might cost a half million dollars or more by the time their tool room is fully stocked. But their tools are designed to survey a large plot of land and map out what's under the ground in a large scale, while showing the hot spots where the ore is as well as other anomalies that the mine owner would want to know. Since we are hobby treasure hunters, we don't want to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars for equipment. We want a cheap magic box that tells us immediately where to dig a hole and recover a treasure. Of course, we get what we pay for. And in the case of most LRLS we get crap that's worth maybe $20 to $50 of useless electronic parts for a few thousand dollars and promises of finding treasure.
The way I see it, the really working equipment like geologists use is too expensive for a hobby, and it's not so well suited for finding small objects. And the cheap crap is a fast way to lose all your hobby money.
The only place in between is there are a few real electronic engineers who actually build things that they believe can work. If you can get them to build something they think works for you, and let you try it out first, there's a chance that you might have a locator that does something to help you find treasure from a distance.
4.
Yes, there are real long range locators that find gold, silver, copper, bronze, aluminum and others reliably from a long distance. But as I said, they are not available for you to buy, and if they were, you couldn't afford them.
Best Wishes,
J_P