[J_Player]

I opened this thread titled "Dell Winders on LRL detecting" in order to find out what Dell's ideas were on how LRLs work based on his experience. Not to hear more of the same old arguments that all skeptics have to offer on a multitude of forums concerning LRLs. I am well aware of the proofs people have presented to demonstrate the LRLs don't work. I am as skeptical as anyone else in this forum about whether LRLs work. When I was 4 years old I was skeptical of the world being round. It appeared flat to me. I figured if it was round, then this could only be true through some force of magic. I later learned that the apparent magic was not magic at all, but well-respected principles of physics and earth science that allowed the earth to be round. And it was only an illusion due to my frame of reference that caused it to appear flat. It was because I took the time to listen to the complete theory of those who had years of experience in studying the earth sciences and measuring the earth that I was able to understand how it could be round. Had I not listened to what these experts had to say, I would still believe it is flat as I had when I was 4 years old, and I would be preaching along with the other skeptics in the Flat Earth Society. I would be calling the astronauts and rocket scientists a bunch of liars and cheats who bilked the government out of billions of dollars. Today, my understanding of how LRLs work is very limited. I have no way of making an informed decision of whether I should believe they work or not until I can first hear some coherent explanation from the experts who have more experience than me.

With LRLs, there is no standard accepted principle or theory of how they work or how they should be used. The principles vary depending on which user you are talking to. For this reason we have no standard principles on which to decide whethere there is any believable science to explain the use of the so-called LRL. It was my intent to find out from only the most experienced proponents of LRLs how they believe LRLs work based on their long years of experience. It was my intent to look in one single thread to find a reference from the most knowledgable in the use of these machines have to say. It was not my intent to start another debate about whether they actually work or not. It was not my intent to ask if anyone could expose a fraudulant marketing racketeer. If I was looking for a discussion of more proofs to support whether LRLs work not, then I would have titled this thread "LRLs -- do they work or not? Can you prove it?" instead of "Dell Winders on LRL detecting".

It was my hope that in One single place we could learn what theories the experienced experts have to say about what principles LRLs like the Mineoro device work on (not dowsing principles). Apparently this is not possible in this forum. It appers that any attempt to set aside a place where we can read a concise explanation of these LRL principles from an experienced user will be met with fillibustering and ridicule that clogs up the pages. A casual reader has no single place he can go to find out "just the facts" of what the experienced proponent of LRLs have to say without sifting through pages of arguments concerning the validity of LRL theory and attacks on the credibility of others who engage in mass marketing of LRL paraphenalia.

As far as I am concerned, the purpose of this thread has been defeated, and it would be better to move Dell's answers to the TA forum where it has a chance of becoming a concise statement of his understanding of LRL theory and practice without needing to sift through the arguments in order to hear what he has to say.

PS.
A final note to Dell: You can easily deal witb the time limit for posting in this or other forums by typing your message in a text file, then pasting it into the message window. I do this by right-clicking on the Windows desktop or inside a Windows folder, then click New / Text Document. This will open a blank text file with Windows wordpad. You can type and edit your message in wordpad until it is done, then highlight the entire text and right-click for copy. Then go to the forum message and right-click to paste the text you just copied. You can also save the text file on your computer if you wish.