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Old 04-11-2007, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl-NC View Post
I have fully demonstrated, 100% of the time, under any conditions, that it definitely WILL NOT detect fresh gold.
No, you didn't. If you don't encounter the right conditions on humidity , hot environment, etc. you will not detect fresh gold with your present device. That's why the GIG was added. To be able to make the detector has a more consistent basis on this. Although you won't be able to detect fresh gold in rainy days, it will do it in about any sunny day.

With a similar detector as the one you own, I was able to pick my gold ring from 15 feet away on a particular day. Next day I could not. So as some skeptics here erroneously think I'm somewhat involved with Mineoro and you pose as an adversary, who do you think they will believe?
Fine, I don't care. Never will. Reality is one and only.

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It has also failed to detect buried gold that is approaching 4 yrs old.
How many times will it be necessary to tell you the same thing over and over until you input data?
Gold should be at least 10 years old buried to be detectable in the usual way.

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Like the PDC205, the FG80 seems to just beep in a rather random way. It is possible, by carefully adjusting the threshold while standing in one location, to get the unit to consistently beep in a particular direction, or a particular point on the ground. But if I move a few meters away, there is no consistency with the prior signal direction, even when re-tweaking the threshold. Directions are helter-skelter.

I have an invisible dog fence. It works by pulsing a low current through a buried wire. Metal detectors easily pick this up as EM interference, so when testing detectors, I turn it off. The other day I took the FG80 outside, before turning off the fence, and discovered that it would rather easily detect the buried wire. With the threshold set low, I could hold the FG80 horizontally close to the ground and precisely track the buried wire. In anticipation of a suggestion, the voltage produced on this wire is much too low to cause ionization.

I propose that the Mineoro locators are detecting EM signals, not ionization. Everywhere around us, we are bathed in EM signals of all frequencies. It is simple to build a receiver that will detect these signals and beep when a threshold is exceeded. EM signal strength can vary with direction due to obstacles and multipath. If a directional antenna is used (such as a loop), a threshold-based receiver can be made to detect a signal in certain directions but not others.

Next: tests that confirm my theory.

- Carl
Carl, what kind of scientist are you? I simply can't believe that I read the things you stated above !

Of course, there's a RF portion inside the detector which will eventually suffer from those kind of interferences. But you have to understand once and for all that the FG80 is built to detect ionic and electrostatic fields in the nano level. So altough your dog fence or whatever may appear to have a low ionization , it may be more than sufficient for the FG to pick it up.

Finally, if you are really serious about testing this device , which now I really have strong doubts, take it to a region where you suspect there's gold buried. Away from the city with no electrical interferences so it will not affect your testings.
AND NEVER GO ALONE. TAKE SOMEONE WITH YOU TO CONFIRM OR NOT YOUR CONCLUSIONS. If you go alone it will always be your word alone with NO CHANCE OF REFUTATION if you ever wish to report back as i know you are starving for it.
Take SOMEONE LIKE DELL WINDERS WITH YOU since he knows a lot of places where might exist gold, have a lot of experience on this and he already tested the FG himself.
If you decide to do it alone by yourself, you show you don't have the desire to conduct an honest and suitable test.
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