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Old 08-13-2007, 07:09 AM
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Hi Locator,
for me "gold ionic detection" is pure speculation if we are talking about TH LRLs. Of course, like JP said, one can get samples of soil... then send to a big lab with lot of costly apparatus and then figure out if there is some (parts per billion usually) gold ions in the matrix.

The generation and moving of few gold ions in soil is possible due to chemicals directly (where matrix contains some particular compounds) or by primitive lifeforms like bacteria or fungi that could bind some few in exchange reactions then concentrate or disperse that few collected gold in the sorrounding soil.
Ion movements in the matrix, could then be caused by other forces at microscopic level without reling just only to bacteria or other lifeforms.

You have to keep in mind that chemical gold interactions are really few cause it's really few reactive, as you'll find looking at its chemistry.

Problem is that electronic LRLs for TH manifacturers claim often their products can detect that ions from remote, without samples etc... and that's impossible: there are no airborn gold ions in normal conditions and LRLs we se here in other threads haven't any "ionic-chamber" as claimed ...so are just fake products.

When someone said that there is a secondary effect related to ions generation or movements in soil, like Esteban said, without saying you which is that effect... or how a supposed working LRL could detect that hypothetical effect say nothing of scientific relevance/value.

Anyone can say have made a detector that uses e.g. kirlian-effect to discover gold bars from 1000Km away, but without giving proofs of that.
Just another fake claim, as all are (untill now) the claims about LRL.
Why wondering about ?

If you ask them about "the principle" or that "secondary effect" they'll always say that is a secret technology etc never giving you any good information.

Read my post about Quadro 250 in the Skeptic's Bar thread: it's a good example of how some manifactures tend to protect their interests (in trial) from sanctions, asserting there is some secret technology behind their products. Old game.

For that people you have to trust this or that LRL work without any scientific explaination, facts, proofs... that at the end, is the same as performing a faith act.

Of course you can, but then it's up to you if you waste your money that way.

Kind regards,
Max

the Quadro's strategy at trial:

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On January 19, 1996, the FBI Economic Crimes unit seized the merchandise and records of the Quadro Corporation and arrested its officers. In April, 1996, a federal judge issued a permanent injunction against Quadro Corp, which was convicted of engaging in a mail and wire scheme to defraud customers, under statutes 18 U.S.C. 1341 and 1343. In court it was pointed out that the Quadro Detector had been carefully examined and that no "inductors, conductors, or oscillators" were found, though Quadro advertised those as the working parts of its "secret technology." Quadro claimed that theirs were not "ordinary" inductors, conductors, or oscillators. Theirs are of an advanced sort not yet known to "regular science."
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