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Old 04-18-2009, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Dell Winders
Why don't you build your own Frequency Discriminator? An inexpensive frequency generator, and a pair of Dowsing rods is all it takes. You can probably do that for under 50 bucks. Even a $3 transistor radio will work. At the one Treasure show I attended I showed folks how to build their own Frequency Discriminator, for under $20 and 2 hours time.
Hi Dell,
The reason I don't build a frequency generator is because of the secret you refer to:
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Originally Posted by Dell Winders
If there is any secret to it, it's learning to allow the rod(s) to respond to a physics application, and don't override the natural reaction with a mind/muscle ideomotor response. This usually requires practice to mastered, and an understanding that a physics application has limitations that have to be recognized, and accepted accordingly.
For one, I don't believe there is any physics application involved, nor do I think ideamotor response has anything to do with locating treasure. Keeping in mind that what I believe is irrelevant as long as I hold the LRL and let it work, all my previous attempts to allow rods to respond were fruitless for locating anything. Therefore, I expect to have a 100% failure rate, based on previous experience. The only way this might change is if someone were to give live instructions on the proper way to handle a LRL. Unless this happens, then I expect to have continued 100% failure rate, and any building of apparatus is wasted time. This is the reason I prefer to let the LRL experts demonstrate how to make them work live and in person. When I see them work, then I will be ready to be trained by a successful operator of an LRL to become proficient. The fact is I would prefer to buy a working machine than to build one of my own.

Your opinion of the electronics industry is sadly mistaken:
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Originally Posted by Dell Winders
The electronics people have been bamboozling,and swindling gullible consumers out of millions for years, with bells & whistles, and advanced technology claims that their electronic circuit is farther advanced, and better than the other. But most of them are using the hand held Antenna Rods, which can also be used as Mental, meta-physical tools with the stigma of Dowsing attached.

You guys crying skeptic on the forums have done an excellent job of making your high tech electronic friends wealthy in the LRL industry, by bashing and ridding the industry of low priced competition such as myself.

The electronics in the LRL have a purpose, but are of lesser importance, unless you are building an electronic receiver. Learning to use, and correctly interpreting the reactions of the Rods, is key important to having success with present Locators.

It's been my experience that electronics people won't believe anything works unless they can complicate it. Personally, I think the arm chair idiot's paper cup tests to gather data are Stupid gimmickry, and prove nothing. True field tests, successes, and failures provide usable information and scientific data.

Unless it is the intent of the electronics people to continue ripping off people with electronic jargon, exaggerated, and false advertising claims, and using so called skeptics to bash low priced competition, my advise is, "keep it simple, stupid". Learn to use the Rod(s) like your electronic friends have, and you too may be on to something that will contribute to future development.

Trying to pi$$ people off with egotistic arrogance, and intellectual ignorance hasn't carried this forum very far. Dell
From my point of view, what you view as egotistic arrogance is in reality righteous indignation. The electronic engineers who post in the Geotech forums are for the most part exceptionally bright engineers who are well equipped to recognize bogus electronic circuits and fake theories that were simply made up in order to convince the ignorant that a particular contraption is so advanced that only a rocket scientist would be able to understand how it works. The real scientific pretenders are people who make up this crap about swivel rods with electronic trash connected to it in hopes that ignorant customers will believe it is the latest and greatest from the scientific world.

You are sadly mistaken if you think Carl, Qiaozi, Max, Ivconic, Geo, and dozens of others who post in this forum are not among the top electronic engineers to be found in the treasure hunting world.

You think I am wrong?
Look at what Geo posted just a few posts above this post. In o few lines, he totally de-bunked the Spektra, detailing how it uses a fake ground balance which is simply a timer flashing a message on the screen until the timer runs out. Then it pretends to be switching out of the ground balance mode and start generating a frequency. Geo is no scientific pretender. The person who made the Spectra is. In fact it is fraud to advertise an electronic device as automatic ground balancing when it does not perform any ground balancing:
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Originally Posted by Geo
It is a simple and expensive generator. No Ground balance
It has a inner timer so at first 2...3 minutes it display ground scaning, but it give the desired frequency at the probes. It only writes "Ground balance", nothing else
With some words... "Very expensive generator for its ability"
When these engineers are pointing out bad electronics and fradulent claims, this does not brand them as egotistical or arrogant. Any self-respecting person would be indignant over discovering such a fraud, and we are fortunate to have them looking out for the rest of us who don't have the time or perhaps not the ability to examine the circuits and determine they are fake.

Best wishes,
J_P
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