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Old 01-24-2010, 05:45 AM
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I've long understand the danger of LRLs. Here in the US, LRL drug detectors were sold to schools and law enforcement. Right now, we have Mexico using them at border crossings:

http://news.yahoo.com/video/world-15749633/17378517
(See 1:20 minute mark)

DKL has, for years, been selling LRL rescue locators where lives are on the line. Now we have LRL bomb detectors trying to stop suicide bombers.

Hopefully this latest round of LRL insanity will bring more attention to the LRL scams and, especially, the scammers.
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Old 01-24-2010, 07:11 AM
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What about prosecutions for companies such as OKM, those in the treasure hunting market?
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Old 01-24-2010, 08:54 AM
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What about prosecutions for companies such as OKM, those in the treasure hunting market?
Good question! Although OKM is not best example. Mineoro would be better example.
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Old 01-24-2010, 08:59 AM
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Here's some more information ->
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6997859.ece
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...n-1876388.html
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01...detector_bust/

The inventor is quoted as saying:
“We have been dealing with doubters for ten years. One of the problems we have is that the machine does look a little primitive. We are working on a new model that has flashing lights.”

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However the device has some defenders in Iraq. Major General Jihad al-Jabiri, the head of the Interior Ministry's directorate for combat explosives, said: "Whether it's magic or scientific, what I care about is detecting bombs. I don't care what they say. I know more about bombs than the Americans do. In fact, I know more about bombs than anyone in the world."
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Old 01-24-2010, 09:25 AM
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"... don't care what they say. I know more about bombs than the Americans do. In fact, I know more about bombs than anyone in the world...."

He should "care"!!!
Maybe he knows more about bombs...but he don't know nothing about detectors...that was the problem!
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Old 01-24-2010, 03:06 PM
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Saddam Hussein was more adequate knowledgeable man. this modern Iraqi government seems all idiotics and blindly believes western tales. probably the Iraqi civilization intellectually has died
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The problem is getting someone to file a lawsuit. After you've spent $5000 for a bogus LRL, are you going to spend another $5000 to hire a lawyer?
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Old 01-24-2010, 08:01 PM
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Reading this thread reminds me of an incident 35 years ago. A bunch of Bell Huey Cobras went down in 'nam because of falsified heat treatment records that resulted in weak rotor mainshafts. Somebody went to prison for that one.

Anytime procurement is made regarding components or systems for racing, aerospace, deep sea, military application, medical, or any environment where system failure could result in loss of life, utmost attention must be given to ONGOING quality assurance considerations.

That the Iraqi government spent that much on what appears to be a system that would have failed even a basic initial performance evaluation, suggests that their procurement system needs some refining re. quality control protocols.

As for the gentleman running the company that sold this deadly crap, I like the way the Chinese government deals with dishonest businesspeople- they hang 'em...

Bernie, are you listening???

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Old 01-24-2010, 10:23 PM
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That the Iraqi government spent that much on what appears to be a system that would have failed even a basic initial performance evaluation, suggests that their procurement system needs some refining re. quality control protocols.
In this case it probably has more to do with corruption than with any quality control protocol.
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Old 01-25-2010, 05:51 AM
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After nearly 10 years of work on my MPI demining detector project and having poured many $k of my own hard earned into the project after seeing first hand the devestation UXO and APM can and do afflict on communities, I think anyone who can think of such insane scams without a thought to the dire consequences, man ..... p....s me off. Very sick, very greedy and very heartless. Suicide bombings are bad enough without adding to the problem....

Hope those involved get what they deserve.

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Old 01-25-2010, 01:14 PM
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Hi Muntari,hows your project going?Feel sure any if any outcomes will come from OZ.from deep developers like you.as we know ML started this way,an contibute globaly in the biggest way!Cheers! Rov.
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