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[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Don Jose de La Mancha

good mornig, bk J-Player: I am curious on this fixation on carbon based dna? Remember this is used in just a narrow range of reproductive materiel.

Who is to say just how long, how, or if, shall we say, a metal needs to normally reproduce itself? 10 years? 1000? billions? Remember the Universe itself is thought to be a reproductive form, this is what we normally consider life, no?

Don Jose de La Mancha

"I exist to Live, not live to exist".

Hi Mr. Don,
Didn't I already provide the answer about the fixation of carbon based DNA when I answered about the fixation of making them conform to life reproduction as we presently visualize it?
Didn't I explain that there is no fixation other than the one Dr. hung established when he made a statement that Gold DNA produces a substance?
Didn't I explain that Dr. hung made a fixed statement which says DNA produced a substance?

The answer lies in the definition of DNA.
DNA is a carbon based organic acid by definition, which is capable of determining reproduction as well as causing other organic substances to be produced.
DNA is in fact a component of living organisms which produce a variety of substances.

DNA is not a metal lattice. If it was a metal lattice, it could not be called DNA, because DNA is defined to be deoxyribonucleic acid. Deoxyribonucleic acid is not a metal lattice.... Really!
DNA is an acid based on carbon by definition. And it is a carbon-based acid which is naturally produced only in living material.
Isn't saying that gold has DNA which produces a substance that coats it's surface about as stupid as saying cars have wings that cause them to fly like airplanes?

If you were to enter the dream and fairy tale world, where DNA forms and grows in a metal lattice, then you may also continue the embellishments of your dream to claim the metal DNA produces a substance which coats the metal surface. There is no limit to how far you could dream... You could even dream that electrical charges have emotions that can grow to become as strong as a love affair like Romeo and Juliet!

But if we choose not to base our view of the real world on a fairy tale dream world, we can observe that the definition of DNA is a carbon based organic acid that is found in living organisms, not in gold jewelry or other gold items. And we can observe that there is no deoxyribonucleic acid in gold producing any substance that coats its surface.

It is a matter of choice. You can choose to live in a dream world that does not correspond to reality, or you can choose to see reality for what it is, and not choose to twist your observations into something that you wish they could be instead. Most people learn to see reality for what it is after they experience the consequences of living in a dream world.

Do you begin to understand that a DNA molecule must conform to the life form it grew from? That it cannot simply transmute itself from a carbon based molecule into a metal lattice that does not have the necessary elements arranged as needed? Do you understand that a typical metal lattice is not alive as a cell where a DNA molecule lives and determines reproduction?

Or do you really believe that metals such as gold contain DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid), and that this deoxyribonucleic acid contained in gold produces a substance that coats its surface to fight against rust and oxidation?


Best wishes,
J_P

P.S. I am not sure that you will disagree with the fairy tale world version of gold DNA and the substance it produces to coat the metal surface.
But then doesn't the name "Don Jose de La Mancha" correspond to a "knight errant"? One in a long line of "knights errant"?

[Don Jose de La Mancha]

Morning J_p. I doubt that I have ever said that metal, the celestial bodies, or what we consider inanimate bodies, had DNA, but, 'perhaps' an equivelent.

Don Jose de La Mancha

"I exist to Live, not live to exist".

[Don Jose de La Mancha]

Morning J_P: When I was in premed, one of the first problems that they gave my class was to prove whether Amoeba moved towards their prey and engulfed it by a deliberate planned attack or by a simple chemical reaction. We were required to take both sides in turn.

I received a top grade by demonstrating that the entire proces could be explained by simple chemical reactions.

This is an attempt to say that yes, I do know what DNA is and how it supposedly works.

Don Jose de La Mancha

" I exist to Live, not live to exist".

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Don Jose de La Mancha

Morning J_P: When I was in premed, one of the first problems that they gave my class was to prove whether Amoeba moved towards their prey and engulfed it by a deliberate planned attack or by a simple chemical reaction. We were required to take both sides in turn.

I received a top grade by demonstrating that the entire proces could be explained by simple chemical reactions.

This is an attempt to say that yes, I do know what DNA is and how it supposedly works.

Don Jose de La Mancha

" I exist to Live, not live to exist".

Oh.
I didn't know that. Now I know.

Best wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Don Jose de La Mancha

When I was in premed, one of the first problems that they gave my class was to prove whether Amoeba moved towards their prey and engulfed it by a deliberate planned attack or by a simple chemical reaction. We were required to take both sides in turn.

I received a top grade by demonstrating that the entire proces could be explained by simple chemical reactions.

Ummm... so what was your first job when you graduated from medical school?

Best wishes,
J_P

[Don Jose de La Mancha]

Evening J_P: you asked "what was my first job after graduating from 'pre med'"
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I 'never' graduated, Tests showed that I was not psychologically suited to be a general practicioner, it would be too boring and routine. It was suggested that I change to theoretical Physics, however, I was accepted into the new USAF flight training as a Pilot and officer first, soooo.

From there I went on and lived with The Yaqui Indians in Sonora Mexico for 5 years learning their culture, history, and roaming through their lands looking for lost mines and treasures . In the process I discovered that the Mexican Gov't was trying to displace them from more of their land. I found an old military map of the Yaqui lands drawn up for a general from the Yaqui wars of 1906, which clearly showed just how much land had been literally stolen from then. The gov't compromised and installed an irrigation system for them since it would have meant giving them 1/2 of the present Obregon. They gave me the Bible written in Yaqui as a token of friendship, I still have it.

Shall I go on? Living 'off' of the Yucatan jungle looking for lost Mayan ruins for 6 months, part of the time with the Lacadon Indians / Mayas. My friend and I carried #65 back packs, full sized Machetes, and .22 pistols for small game and extremely marginal protection.

More ? That was when I beat the Mexican National Pistol champion.

Sigh. the picture of a perfect bum and escapist.

Don Jose de La Mancha

"I exist to Live , not live to exist".

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Don Jose de La Mancha

Evening J_P: you asked "what was my first job after graduating from 'pre med'"
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I 'never' graduated, Tests showed that I was not psychologically suited to be a general practicioner, it would be too boring and routine. It was suggested that I change to theoretical Physics, however, I was accepted into the new USAF flight training as a Pilot and officer first, soooo....

Fascinating..!
Ummm... Who (or what organization) administered the tests that showed you were not psychologically suited to be a general practitioner, it would be too boring and routine?

Best wishes,
J_P