New Mineoro Importer in Europe

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Fred

Very interesting Morgan, thanks,
This is what i thought: The French guys were chosen to be easy targets and were convinced in some way that they will be rich by selling it.The page was made with the "help" of someone that doens´t speak French, and apparently even the French guy didn´t look at it, as some parts are not understandable.(Just like some "instructions of use" that we can find on some chinese products.)
They already have "used" mineoros for sell, so it will be their loss, and they will have lots of problems if they sell new ones.
I suppose the mineoro´s team could have some great holidays in France, even if they sold only one detector.
One thing i would still like to understand is, technically, how they made it ot beep

Hmmm... How could a French treasure hunting site make a French web page that French people cannot understand...?
Maybe the web page was made by a webmaster who speaks Portuguese, but lives far away from France, so he never had a chance to learn French properly.

Maybe you are right.... Maybe these treasure hunters were tricked by the Mineoro team.
But it has been several weeks since the Mineoro team left.
They have had a lot of time to experiment with the real Mineoro detectors that are sold to customers to see how they work.
They have had plenty of time to learn the truth about these locators.
If they are working exactly like what we saw in the demonstration, then they will know by now.
So they will have no surprise if customers bring back Mineoro locators and demand their money back.

How did the factory team make the locator beep?
I can think of two likely methods:
1. They knew in advance where the target was hidden. In this case, it is simple to cause a Mineoro LRL to beep by building a static charge, and by the way you hold it, how you move it, and where you point it. This will be especially true if they are using a special demonstration model that is modified to be more sensitive to static charges -- or maybe modified to beep at a TV remote control.
2. Hypnosis. Remember.... Morgan was there.... "Yes,Connie was very happy in Brazil but when return to her country discover that MINEORO is not what THEY DEMONSTRATE IN THE FACTORY !!!
She conclude they make a brain wash,until the point they hipnotize people to believe in their tricks,its a shame".
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...080#post128080
Was the Mineoro team able to hypnotize all these French treasure hunters into believing their LRLs work?

Here is a simple test that will show whether a Mineoro LRL can work even when the factory team is demonstrating it....


Can the factory team find a gold ring when you hide it in a place they don't know about in advance? Will their Fresh Gold detectors FG80 and FG90 find the gold ring that you bury freshly?

If they fail to find your ring from long range, then maybe they can hypnotize you to believe they found it.... <-- see the face of a hypnotized customer.
This face can be seen only when he pays money for new LRL, and then you can see this same face a second time when the customer goes home and finds only random beeps from his new Mineoro LRL.

neronc: "...Mineoro sent me an automatic Fg80 and this one doesn't react anymore of the all.
They explain that it sounds on the electric circuits and on the grooves provided gold with......... nothing, more of reaction of the all.
I find incredible that Mineoro provides you a device that doesn't work.
Does this device have of the to be tested before its departure of the factory????..."
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...0315#post50315

After the customer finds only random beeps from his new Mineoro LRL, then you see only this face --->
Will we see this same face soon on the French guy who is trying to sell Mineoro LRLs?

Strange...
We don't see Dr. hung trying to convince people to buy Mineoro LRLs today.
What happened? Did treasure hunters stop believing his stories?


Best wishes,
J_P

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by J_Player

Hmmm... How could a French treasure hunting site make a French web page that French people cannot understand...?
Maybe the web page was made by a webmaster who speaks Portuguese, but lives far away from France, so he never had a chance to learn French properly.

Maybe you are right.... Maybe these treasure hunters were tricked by the Mineoro team.
But it has been several weeks since the Mineoro team left.
They have had a lot of time to experiment with the real Mineoro detectors that are sold to customers to see how they work.
They have had plenty of time to learn the truth about these locators.
If they are working exactly like what we saw in the demonstration, then they will know by now.
So they will have no surprise if customers bring back Mineoro locators and demand their money back.

How did the factory team make the locator beep?
I can think of two likely methods:
1. They knew in advance where the target was hidden. In this case, it is simple to cause a Mineoro LRL to beep by building a static charge, and by the way you hold it, how you move it, and where you point it. This will be especially true if they are using a special demonstration model that is modified to be more sensitive to static charges.
2. Hypnosis. Remember.... Morgan was there.... "Yes,Connie was very happy in Brazil but when return to her country discover that MINEORO is not what THEY DEMONSTRATE IN THE FACTORY !!!
She conclude they make a brain wash,until the point they hipnotize people to believe in their tricks,its a shame".
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...080#post128080
Was the Mineoro team able to hypnotize all these French treasure hunters into believing their LRLs work?

Here is a simple test that will show whether a Mineoro LRL can work even when the factory team is demonstrating it....


Can the factory team find a gold ring when you hide it in a place they don't know about in advance? Will their Fresh Gold detectors find the gold ring that you bury freshly?

If they can't find your ring from long range, then maybe they can hypnotize you to believe they found it.... <-- see the face of a hypnotized customer.
This face can be seen only when he pays money for new LRL, and then you can see this same face a second time when the customer goes home and finds only random beeps from his new Mineoro LRL.

neronc: "...Mineoro sent me an automatic Fg80 and this one doesn't react anymore of the all.
They explain that it sounds on the electric circuits and on the grooves provided gold with......... nothing, more of reaction of the all.
I find incredible that Mineoro provides you a device that doesn't work.
Does this device have of the to be tested before its departure of the factory????..."
http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...0315#post50315

After the customer finds only random beeps from his new Mineoro LRL, then you see only this face --->

Will we see this same face soon on the French guy who is trying to sell Mineoro LRLs?

Strange...
We don't see Dr. hung trying to convince people to buy Mineoro LRLs here today. What happened? Did all the treasure hunters stop believing his stories?


Best wishes,
J_P

Hello


The french forest where is suposed to have many roman and celtic gold &silver coins,produce several modern and small earings???
The french TH TEAM(have one of my friend)was in this FG90 demonstration,buy the FG90 and now he is very DESAPOINTED. He start understand all of them fall into MINEORO tricks...Now is to late.
Also seems this earings are not made in France,how interesting...Well,seems Patricia not know where to buy Roman&Celtic material.

Regards

[hung]

Originally Posted by Morgan

The french TH TEAM(have one of my friend)was in this FG90 demonstration,buy the FG90 and now he is very DESAPOINTED.

What's his name?

[WM6]

Originally Posted by hung

What's his name?

His name is Very Disappointed.

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by hung

What's his name?

The name of this person is to not put public here,is one of the french team,and he wants to remain secret.

the test was made in one forest near Paris.

the objects located by Alonso was all very small and cheap quality,not made in France.
It seems FG90 not catch coins or bigger objects,seems to have preference for EARINGS???

Regards

[hung]

Originally Posted by Morgan

The name of this person is to not put public here,is one of the french team,and he wants to remain secret.

the test was made in one forest near Paris.

the objects located by Alonso was all very small and cheap quality,not made in France.
It seems FG90 not catch coins or bigger objects,seems to have preference for EARINGS???

Regards

Secret eh?
I will check your claims about this person. We'll see.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by hung

Secret eh?
I will check your claims about this person. We'll see.

Look like you are involved in the business after all

[hung]

Not at all.
Just seeking the truth.
The greatest treasure.

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by hung

What's his name?

Seems Alonso clean all the Paris forest ,the frech team is using the FG90 and cant find anything...

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by hung

What's his name?

Hung,wake up for reality,do you think MINEORO can make this tricks forever without SOMEONE SEE THEY ARE USING ALLWAYS THE SAME TRICKS ???

With all respect to Alonso,but he should stop this things and go to LAB and IMPROVE all the defective MINEORO LRL`s in the way to worth the money they want.

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by hung

What's his name?

Hope you are not envolved in such kind of MINEORO tricks,are you???

[hung]

Originally Posted by Morgan

Hope you are not envolved in such kind of MINEORO tricks,are you???

Hello Morgan,

I could contact one person in that group who was in the video and this is what I was told:

1 - The video is the documenting of a true event and the recoveries are real.

2 - None in that group of people has bought a FG90 because of this. If a FG90 was
sold later, then it was to someone who was not present in that occasion.

3 - This person knows everyone in that group and told that none in the group
doubted of the recovery or joked it was a trick, etc. This person would be
a complete idiot. In this person's own words.

4 - There was another recovery by the FG90 after Patricia and Alonso had returned
to Brazil.

The only information you provided that I could corroborate with this person is that the location they shot the videos is really a park from the roman times.
Maybe you or even them could be expecting exotic roman coins to be found, but the gold earrings were what it was found, whether you accept this fact or not, wheter you like it or not. So simple.

Now, If you have any problems with Mineoro, I suggest you call them, threat them... Do whatever you wish. In my view you could either start using the devices to find gold in the field once and for all instead of wasting your time in this forum whining about it or you can sell them. With the money, you could buy a lot of floor polisher machines that several neanderthals here use to find coins at the beach which they know by the name of (ordinary) metal detectors if this is what you want.
Live a happy life, not a complaining one.

Now if you excuse me, I will go back to a recovery planning of a treasure that by the way, was located by a FG90.
Think about what I said. There are many rewarding things to do out there instead of being here wasting time, words and keyboard imagining the wildest theories.

Best to you my friend and good luck.

[Geo]

Originally Posted by hung

Hello Morgan,


Now if you excuse me, I will go back to a recovery planning of a treasure that by the way, was located by a FG90.
Think about what I said. There are many rewarding things to do out there instead of being here wasting time, words and keyboard imagining the wildest theories.

Best to you my friend and good luck.

Hi Hung.
I think the same applies to all and of course for you.

Regards

[takhslambos]

i now is troue this video because with my mineoro fg 79 i locate from 15 metres away one iron cup with 10 gold coins buried 50cm deep.

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by takhslambos

i now is troue this video because with my mineoro fg 79 i locate from 15 metres away one iron cup with 10 gold coins buried 50cm deep.

Even if this your report is true,according MINEORO propaganda you should find this gold coins 100 m or more !!!

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by hung

Hello Morgan,

I could contact one person in that group who was in the video and this is what I was told:

1 - The video is the documenting of a true event and the recoveries are real.

2 - None in that group of people has bought a FG90 because of this. If a FG90 was
sold later, then it was to someone who was not present in that occasion.

3 - This person knows everyone in that group and told that none in the group
doubted of the recovery or joked it was a trick, etc. This person would be
a complete idiot. In this person's own words.

4 - There was another recovery by the FG90 after Patricia and Alonso had returned
to Brazil.

The only information you provided that I could corroborate with this person is that the location they shot the videos is really a park from the roman times.
Maybe you or even them could be expecting exotic roman coins to be found, but the gold earrings were what it was found, whether you accept this fact or not, wheter you like it or not. So simple.

Now, If you have any problems with Mineoro, I suggest you call them, threat them... Do whatever you wish. In my view you could either start using the devices to find gold in the field once and for all instead of wasting your time in this forum whining about it or you can sell them. With the money, you could buy a lot of floor polisher machines that several neanderthals here use to find coins at the beach which they know by the name of (ordinary) metal detectors if this is what you want.
Live a happy life, not a complaining one.

Now if you excuse me, I will go back to a recovery planning of a treasure that by the way, was located by a FG90.
Think about what I said. There are many rewarding things to do out there instead of being here wasting time, words and keyboard imagining the wildest theories.

Best to you my friend and good luck.

I still using MINEORO DC2008 along with PD in my treasure search. What i dont understand is,WHY ALONSO NEED TO PLAY WITH FG90,DEMONSTRATE SOMETHING THAT THIS DEVICE CANT DO IN REALITY,SOMETHING THAT THE FRENCH TEAM ALREADY KNOW?
Alonso is a good LRL cientist,why not use one PD in the french forest?Maybe the answer is MINEORO as a lot of FG90 in stock,need to sell...
About the french person in the group,i speak the true.

Regards

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by hung

Hello Morgan,

I could contact one person in that group who was in the video and this is what I was told:

1 - The video is the documenting of a true event and the recoveries are real.

2 - None in that group of people has bought a FG90 because of this. If a FG90 was
sold later, then it was to someone who was not present in that occasion.

3 - This person knows everyone in that group and told that none in the group
doubted of the recovery or joked it was a trick, etc. This person would be
a complete idiot. In this person's own words.

4 - There was another recovery by the FG90 after Patricia and Alonso had returned
to Brazil.

The only information you provided that I could corroborate with this person is that the location they shot the videos is really a park from the roman times.
Maybe you or even them could be expecting exotic roman coins to be found, but the gold earrings were what it was found, whether you accept this fact or not, wheter you like it or not. So simple.

Now, If you have any problems with Mineoro, I suggest you call them, threat them... Do whatever you wish. In my view you could either start using the devices to find gold in the field once and for all instead of wasting your time in this forum whining about it or you can sell them. With the money, you could buy a lot of floor polisher machines that several neanderthals here use to find coins at the beach which they know by the name of (ordinary) metal detectors if this is what you want.
Live a happy life, not a complaining one.

Now if you excuse me, I will go back to a recovery planning of a treasure that by the way, was located by a FG90.
Think about what I said. There are many rewarding things to do out there instead of being here wasting time, words and keyboard imagining the wildest theories.

Best to you my friend and good luck.

i told you before,i´m here in position not total against MINEORO ,only against LIES about mineoro performance. I have friends who have found nice BIG things with some mineoro brands,but they NEVER found small objects with perfect pinpoint as we can see in Alonso´s FG90 demonstrations.

I WANT TO CLARIFY THIS SPECIAL POINT,BECOUSE SOME PEOPLE WANT TO BUY MINEORO FOR FINDING SINGLE GOLD OBJECTS(not only treasures) IN THE BEACH OR FIELDS,AND THEY WILL BE VERY DESAPOINTED (after buy the FG90) TO CERTIFY THAT THIS LRL CANT FIND THE OBJECTS .
And they burn near 10.000 Euro for this experience???

[hung]

I think this ends for good all the silly suspicions Morgan and some (expected) skepheads might have had about the authenticity of the videos.

Bellow you can read Univers Detection's reply after my request for their personal report about the footage.
Pay attention on how they attest precautions against fraud as they were the ones who chose the location to prospect.
Also, distance was not from 3 meters as some enlighteds here eyeballed, but 35 meters. They mention Mineoro stating 500 meters, but I think he made some confusion. If indeed they had lots of small targets, the fields could have summed and some amazing distance would be possible. But for 500 meters, only if dozens of earrings were buried for more than 10 years.
They also feel that past models in France were a little unstable and that in their opinnion, the FG90 overcame this.

As a final note, just a reminder.
Treasure hunters go to the field and recover treasure. They use whatever tools at disposal to achieve their goals. For me ONLY LRLs provide the means. If you are into floor polishers AKA as MDs, its up to you. Go for it, BUT...

You will never find anything in your life sitting in front of a computer screen wasting precious time and blah blah blah, but your pajamas and TV remote.

'Bon Apetit'.

Later. Real busy now.



**********

Hello,

Thank's for your message and for your question : in regards to this we can confirm that there is no possibility from MINEORO team to place these objects under ground ! this is one of the main thing that we take very cery care ( there is in fact 3 videos that we took during these prospections, and and we checked them very well after the job )and egally the place of detection was not in brazil but in France .... in an area that we choose ourself ( MINEORO pepole in come at this place )

the type of objects detected is similar than the type of objects which are found by vlf detectors in this wood ! ( i mean no nuggets,or outside objects which do not correspond at France type of objects founds)

This video is not the exact reflect of this day of detection , because before getting these signals , we walked a lot ... a lot .... a looot !! and we had on one full day,only good signal 3 times in totality in 3 differents places ( and we found only 2 targets ), and one even if we took all the ground in plastic bags to analyse with water ..we do not get this last one becouse it should be too small we think or we loosed it during transportation ( soo conclusion , 3 signals and 2 objects founds and 1 loosed ! )

This work is not soo exceptionnal as the targets deep was not soo deepth and with any single VLF metal detector ( minelab,tesoro,whites,...) we should get it sure ! , the good work was on the distance (long range), at which one it took it until getting at the good place of digging (MINEORO say that the signal have been took at 5OO meters , but in regards to all our videos analyses, the devise start to give a clear and understand signal at 35 meters )
we take consideration that eurpoe is not similar than brazil, and thats why we asked to minoero ( before they arrive ) to calibrate the device at a more sensibility on targets and none hygrometrie(humidity ) fonctions !.....

You have to know that before this we invested in all other models before ( we are searchers personaly , and users of all brands and all models ), past models are making too many unstability (humidity conditions,electrics conditions,.......)

Until now that s only and all what we can certifiate and our happy on place is egally due to the fact that we took care that there will be no possibility from mineoro team to mistake( not by none respect to them , but because our job was to be sure by ourself and our eyes of things )

best regards.




Univers Détection Service

[Fred]

Originally Posted by hung

What's his name?

Why does it matters? Are you going to send your cleaning...i mean, brainwashing team ?