getting rid of the rods

[Mike(Mont)]

Dell Winders was going to market an electronic receiver several years ago. He says the rods work better due to variable conditions. Vernell Electronics sells a couple different models. They still take lots of practice and are subject to interference. There is no turn-on-and-beep receiver that I know of.

[Max]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Dell Winders was going to market an electronic receiver several years ago. He says the rods work better due to variable conditions. Vernell Electronics sells a couple different models. They still take lots of practice and are subject to interference. There is no turn-on-and-beep receiver that I know of.

Uhm... with hot glue inside ?

The fact is not a turn-and-go machine it's just cause already found the treasure (in the wallet of customer)! No need to signal anymore!

Are just bunch of components... hot glue... plastic and metal: you'll not find anything good with these... apart a big disappointment, possibly depression ?

Anyway... who buy one,for the purpose they're advertised, is a total fool ... so, expecially cause here people tell all the time that these things don't work, can't work... so you wanna buy anyway !?
OK... then say goodbye to your money and treasure dreams and face up reality!

Kind regards,
Max

[g-sani]

Here is somebody that uses a receiver to get the signal instead of rods.
You can see the receiver on the left handside of the page.

http://www.thortech.org/en/

Mind you sometimes their webpage doesn't open at all.If you are lucky sometime you will go further and be able to open the page under the heading <Instruments> on the left again.There they explain how their Rx works and they are saying that you will be able to go straight on target.
They give specs for both Tx and Rx.
Once we went out treasure hunting with somebody that had a similar device over here in Greece.He told me that it was a cheaper patent of the equipment that thotech make.I was surprised to see that it was working and that was the first time in my life that we found something using an LRL.

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by g-sani

The dowsers mind is the technology behind the rods.

In a way, you are quite correct. The rods do absolutely nothing, except detect gravity. The whole "technology" (as you put it) is going on in the mind of the dowser. The ideomotor effect is a "trick of the mind". It's a psychological phenomenon whereby the dowser makes unconscious movements of the hand, and fools the conscious mind into believing there is a relationship between the twitching rod and buried treasure. Many empty holes can be found by this method.

Originally Posted by g-sani

If dowsing doesn't exist how can be known to man since ancient time?

The same reasons why reading palms or tea leaves or animal entrails have fooled people for centuries into believing there is a relationship between these activities and real life, when there is none.

Originally Posted by g-sani

Here is somebody that uses a receiver to get the signal instead of rods.
You can see the receiver on the left handside of the page.

http://www.thortech.org/en/

Mind you sometimes their webpage doesn't open at all.If you are lucky sometime you will go further and be able to open the page under the heading <Instruments> on the left again.There they explain how their Rx works and they are saying that you will be able to go straight on target.
They give specs for both Tx and Rx.
Once we went out treasure hunting with somebody that had a similar device over here in Greece.He told me that it was a cheaper patent of the equipment that thotech make.I was surprised to see that it was working and that was the first time in my life that we found something using an LRL.

This is another attempt to separate the unwary from the contents of their wallets. If you want to waste time reading this nonsense, then try this link -> http://www.thortech.org/en/treasure-instruments.html
They are not even capable of creating a simple html link to the correct webpage. All of their links contain an extra "thortech" in the path. Simply remove it, and you can gain access.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Qiaozhi

...Many empty holes can be found by this method...

Not quite, and that´s the problem: actualy what you find is full holes, you have to empty them by yourself !

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Fred

Not quite, and that´s the problem: actualy what you find is full holes, you have to empty them by yourself !

That's funny!
Another oxymoron? But - which one is it - an empty hole, or a full hole?
I guess it's the "full hole", as this is a contradiction in terms.
The "empty hole" is already empty, by definition. No need for the adjective.

[g-sani]

I am really really happy that Mike(Mont) took over explaining things.
I am sure he knows what he is talking about since I compare things whith what I know myself up to now.The thing whith such issues is to be able to give others to understand and myself I am not that good yet as Mike(Mont) is.
He said that:

......the nervous system picks up a much wider range of frequencies than the five senses. The mind has been programmed to ignore these. The hardest part of dowsing is to still the mind of these programs that limit your awareness. .......

and he also wrote that:

.......there is a balance that the user feels when the rod aligns. Whether this is due completely to outside forces (force field), or the user senses the balance and reacts subconsciously, or a combination of the two (most likely) is up for conjecture. But for a non-dowser to state categorically that there is no effect is not accurate. I guess if they say it enough to themself they will believe it.

All these alone can give answers to what holds most people back from truth and from the way that treasure hunting should be approached.
I admit myself that I have seen holes in many places but I also admit that in such places most of the times if not always the valueables were left behind for dowsers to pick up.
It happened many times and still happening.I don't know if it is the ideomotor efect or whatever anybody wants to call it but I know very well that this way we came up whith finds that were impossible to be made whith any sophisticated or top of the range detector no matter the price tag.

Apart from all that Dowsing is not just using rods to find something and it took me quite some time for myself to understand.
This is only a very small practice of what can be done.

[Rudy]

Been gone for a while, but I see that nothing has changed.

By the way Dell, sorry I'm a few days late.
Happy Birthday.