getting rid of the rods

[Dell Winders]

As I recall, you once attempted to demonstrate an LRL device finding coins hidden in the sand, and after you failed miserably, you called the person who offered the testing a liar, rather than to accept a second try where you could have witnesses to observe and document exactly what your LRL instruments detect. It seems to me you still refuse to repeat that test, just as you still refuse to demonstrate your X-scan finding hidden dollars as described on your Web page.

I see you have twisted the event out of context, and yes, the host was exposed with video proof and witnesses, that he lied about me, and the event. Your totally inaccurate commentary of the event appears to be a part of the follow up damage control that was implemented against my defense of the truth.

Your comments are full of personal BS.

Quote:
Originally Posted by kim
i have a mfd long range locator and i like it except for having to use the rods to pick up the signal...is there anyone out there that has a schematic for an electronic device that will pick up the signal...thank you

The original poster wanted to "get rid of the rods", and measure the "signal lines" with some form of conventional electronic instrumentation.

What an excellent request.

Dell, why don't you explain to the original poster why in all the years that MFD has been around; the rods are still a necessary item.

Admit to him that "signal lines" are merely a figment of your imagination, and that they don't really exist, hence no electronic device could sense them, no matter how sensitive it might be.

The Rods are NOT a necessary item. The same fields metered with the use of the Rods have, and can be metered electronically. The differential strength in magnetic fields has, and can be metered electronically, or with simple hand held Rod(s).

Theseus, I am not responsible for your idiocy of applied physics, or your mental aptitude for internet hate mongering under fictitious names. But Carl Morland, IS responsible for the content of this forum and for allowing you and select others to untruthfully accuse me of defrauding my customers, and irresponsibly hiding behind fictitious names and IP's to call me a Scam artist, wallet miner, and refering to my customers as in effect being intellectually defecient. (Jplayers reference, Suckers) There is no truth to your lies.

I hold the webmaster of this forum accountable for encouraging such actions and this type of slanderous participation.

Theseus, your reputation, egotism, and prejudice mentality preceeds you. A number of other aliases have been expelled from reputable forums for your practice of bashing, harassing, and slander directed to defame my life long reputation for honesty and integrity, and impuning the intelligence of those who choose to purchase, or use my home made products.

I will openly defend my honest reputation, honor, and the integrity of my customers until I die. That's a truth. Count on it, Carl. Dell

[Max]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

I see you have twisted the event out of context, and yes, the host was exposed with video proof and witnesses, that he lied about me, and the event. Your totally inaccurate commentary of the event appears to be a part of the follow up damage control that was implemented against my defense of the truth.

Your comments are full of personal BS.



The Rods are NOT a necessary item. The same fields metered with the use of the Rods have, and can be metered electronically. The differential strength in magnetic fields has, and can be metered electronically, or with simple hand held Rod(s).

Theseus, I am not responsible for your idiocy of applied physics, or your mental aptitude for internet hate mongering under fictitious names. But Carl Morland, IS responsible for the content of this forum and for allowing you and select others to untruthfully accuse me of defrauding my customers, and irresponsibly hiding behind fictitious names and IP's to call me a Scam artist, wallet miner, and refering to my customers as in effect being intellectually defecient. (Jplayers reference, Suckers) There is no truth to your lies.

I hold the webmaster of this forum accountable for encouraging such actions and this type of slanderous participation.

Theseus, your reputation, egotism, and prejudice mentality preceeds you. A number of other aliases have been expelled from reputable forums for your practice of bashing, harassing, and slander directed to defame my life long reputation for honesty and integrity, and impuning the intelligence of those who choose to purchase, or use my home made products.

I will openly defend my honest reputation, honor, and the integrity of my customers until I die. That's a truth. Count on it, Carl. Dell

Hi Dell,
c'mon... don't be an ***...who buy a paint roller for hundreds dollars just cause belive he could find something valuable using it... well... it's a sucker by definition!

Don't know at your place... but at mine it is so... and all the people will call him a sucker for life!

Maybe at your place who made that bargain is acclaimed and can run for some public charge... what do you think , uh ? (maybe it's so... who knows!?)

The problem is not at terminology... I mean... if I say that you're a fool, or a sucker, or an idiot , or an *****hole, or a prick, or a d|ck... or whatever d|ckhead , or lunatic, or insane, or foolish , or dumb, or moron...or that you'll win the nobel prize for arsehology etc etc I actually wanna just mean maybe you're not so smart doing your things...

But this sure not apply to you... just some of your customers, the ones that really believe a paint roller can find a treasure! There's enough to make such assumption, I think.

The terminology is not important , just the meaning.

But maybe I'm wrong !

Kind regards,
Max

[Dell Winders]

I have a question. How did Kim and Hank get to post without registering? And where are they now? You see sense Theseus started here Carl setup the dowsing forum so that you have to register to post. I was just wondering how they posted and where did they go after starting the thread. It would seem they would still be asking questions. I checked the members list and there is no Kim or Hank.

An interesting point Tim, but it could be contributed to a programming glitch in the website. However, it does bring to mind an awareness to some of Geotech's, sneaky, underhanded, deceptions in the past, that Carl, used to cater to his roster of fellow Skeptic society supporters. Dell

[Dell Winders]

Hi Dell,
c'mon... don't be an ***...who buy a paint roller for hundreds dollars just cause belive he could find something valuable using it... well... it's a sucker by definition!

Don't know at your place... but at mine it is so... and all the people will call him a sucker for life!

Maybe at your place who made that bargain is acclaimed and can run for some public charge... what do you think , uh ? (maybe it's so... who knows!?)

The problem is not at terminology... I mean... if I say that you're a fool, or a sucker, or an idiot , or an *****hole, or a prick, or a d|ck... or whatever d|ckhead , or lunatic, or insane, or foolish , or dumb, or moron...or that you'll win the nobel prize for arsehology etc etc I actually wanna just mean maybe you're not so smart doing your things...

But this sure not apply to you... just some of your customers, the ones that really believe a paint roller can find a treasure! There's enough to make such assumption, I think.

The terminology is not important , just the meaning.

But maybe I'm wrong !

Kind regards,
Max

Max, I don't sell paint rollers, and I don't have any customers so stupid as to believe they could find treasure with a paint roller. You can stop your asinine insulting, and mocking the intelligence of my friends and customers through out the world.

Your pursuance of such irrational idiocy, is beyond the realm of intelligent comprehension. Dell

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Max, I don't sell paint rollers, and I don't have any customers so stupid as to believe they could find treasure with a paint roller.

OK - so the roller part is missing, but I did see something like this is my local DIY shop.

"WHAT DOESN'T WORK, CANNOT BE MADE TO WORK"

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

The Rods are NOT a necessary item. The same fields metered with the use of the Rods have, and can be metered electronically. The differential strength in magnetic fields has, and can be metered electronically, or with simple hand held Rod(s).
Dell

YES, the rods are a necessary item. If they weren't, someone (if not you, some other Wallet-miner) would have replaced them with an electronic measuring unit a long time ago.

You insist these so-called differential "fields(?)" can and have been monitored electronically. Yet, when you are asked to show how this was done, or to describe the instruments used, how it was documented, and who monitored and validated such measurements --- you ALWAYS duck and run for cover, or change the subject and lapse into name-calling.

I challenge you to post right here, how these fields were measured (without dowsing rods), the instrument used, when it was last calibrated, who monitored the measurements and the actual documentation to record such measurements. You Can't (or Won't) Do It!

The truth is, you or any other LRL Wallet-Miner, have not been able to eliminate the rods from the MFD contraptions, because that would remove the dowsing element, and without dowsing and the ideomotor response the do-nothing MFD box is just so much useless crap.

BTW, if this forum is so disturbing to you --why do you bother to post here?

[J_Player]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

the host was exposed with video proof and witnesses,...

Oh really?
If this video proof exists, then show it to us Dell. I think this is more BS you made up, and you cannot produce a videotape that exposes the tester as a liar. I think you are on the rampage to call anyone a liar who does not believe your BS. Prove me wrong. Where is this alleged videotape?

Did you forget to answer the challenges that were made to you?
Are you able to demonstrate your X-scans finding hidden US dollars like your web page says it does?

Should we assume this is just a bunch of BS from Dell Winders to fool suckers into thinking the X-scan can find hidden dollars? Was Theseus correct when he said you can't prove it?

Beset wishes,
J_P

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Theseus

BTW, if this forum is so disturbing to you --why do you bother to post here?

You'll never get an answer to that question. I've asked several times before.
The real reason, why dowsing and LRL proponents post here, is because they are masochistic by nature.

[Mike(Mont)]

Better keep your daytime job, Q, You ain't no psychic or shrink. Dowsers love to discuss the topic even at the cost of putting up with the likes of you. You guys talk about freedom of speech, but you try like hell to prevent us from doing so. I feel sorry for you that you refuse to learn to dowse. I had an relative that refused to learn to read. I think he was afraid of it.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Better keep your daytime job, Q, You ain't no psychic or shrink. Dowsers love to discuss the topic even at the cost of putting up with the likes of you. You guys talk about freedom of speech, but you try like hell to prevent us from doing so. I feel sorry for you that you refuse to learn to dowse. I had an relative that refused to learn to read. I think he was afraid of it.

I don't see anyone telling you, you could not post here, and it seems you put up postings whenever you want. None of your freedoms have been compromised or taken away from you (or Dell).

However, try to remember that we (the skeptical community) have the very same rights to freedom of speech as you do, and when exercised, we shouldn't have to be "put up with", or have you conjecture that we refuse to learn to dowse.

For your information, I have done all kinds of dowsing, with all sorts of different instruments, ELSE how do you suppose I learned how dowsing and dowsing contraptions actually work. Further, I would rather imagine most of the skeptical community have done similar research, in order to arrive at the truth about dowsing and scam dowsing contraptions.

Try not to make rash assumptions about the people you are talking to, if you really have no idea about their background or experience.

BTW, when was the last time you actually had a daytime job?

[Dell Winders]

For your information, I have done all kinds of dowsing, with all sorts of different instruments, ELSE how do you suppose I learned how dowsing and dowsing contraptions actually work.

That's BS! You show no indication that you know anything at about the subjects other than your personal BELIEF based on assumption, not truth, or fact. Apparently, you have never been mentally capable of learning to Dowse, or learn to use LRL with success, as evidenced by your rantings with prejudiced, closed minded belief, attacking and threatening Dowsers & LRL users at every opportunity. Calling names, and demonstrating your jealousy and resentment against those who are successful with these locating methods.

If you claim you have more field experience, and successes with Mental Dowsing, or LRL than I do, and are more uniquely qualified to speak with accuracy on these subjects, I'll compare my field experience, accompanied with witnessed events, and photographs of successes against yours, or any other Skeptic spouting their venom, hatred, and ignorance on this forum against LRL users, and Dowsers.

Of course, you have been challenged before to show your bragged about abilities that qualifies you to speak authoritatively on these subjects. But as usual I'm sure your monster ego, will not permit you to admit to your Skeptic peers that you have very limited field experience, and no successes to show, and that you will weasel your way out and try to save face.

Come on, Sam, show some photo's of your Mental, meta-physical Dowsing, or applied physics LRL finds, that qualifies you to speak against me as an authority on either of these subjects. I'll try to match you, find for find, success for success, either way, but I won't attempt to compete with your irrational, egotistical BS.

Of course, If you ever decide you want to learn about these subjects, just pay attention to Mike's, posts. He has done more open minded research, and has more positive field experience on these subjects, than you and the rest of the venom tounged Skeptics on this forum put together. And like other, LRL users posting here, we have tried to contribute something positive to this forum.

Show your respect and gratitude for our positive contributions. Your Skeptic prejudice and hatred only breeds contempt and animosity.

"THE DOOR TO KNOWLEDGE & UNDERSTANDING IS NEVER OPEN TO A CLOSED, OR PREJUDICED MIND" Dell

[Max]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

That's BS! You show no indication that you know anything at all about the subjects other than your personal BELIEF based on assumpption, not truth, or fact. Apparently you aren't mentally capable of learning to Dowse, or learn to use LRL with success, least you wouldn't be ranting with prejudiced, closed minded Beliefs based on assumption, attacking and threatening Dowsers & LRL users at every opportunity, calling names, and demonstrating your jealousy and resentment against those who are successful with these locating methods.

If you claim you have more field experience, and successes with Mental Dowsing, or LRL than I do, and are more uniquely qualified to speak with accuracy on these subjects, I'll compare my field experience, accompanied with witnessed events, and photographs of successes against yours, or any other Skeptic spouting their venom, hatred, and ignorance on this forum against LRL users, and Dowsers.

Of course, you have been challenged before to show your bragged about abilities that qualifies you to speak authoriatively on these subjects. But as usual I'm sure your monster ego, will not permit you to admit to your Skeptic peers that you have very limited field experience, and no successes to show, and that you will weasel your way out and try to save face.

Come on, Sam, show some photo's of your Mental, meta-physical Dowsing, or applied physics, LRL finds, that qualifies you to speak against me as an authority on either of these subjects. I'll try to match you, find for find either way, but I won't attempt to compete with your egotistical BS.

Of course, If you ever decide you want to learn about these subjects, just pay attention to Mike's, posts. He has done more open minded research, and has more positive field experience on these subjects, than you and the rest of the venom tounged Skeptics on this forum put together. And like other, LRL users posting here, we have tried to contribute something positive to this forum.

Show your respect and gratitude for our positive contributions. Your Skeptic prejudice and hatred only breeds animosity.

"THE DOOR TO KNOWLEDGE & UNDERSTANDING IS NEVER OPEN TO A CLOSED, OR PREJUDICED MIND" Dell

Which venom are you talking about ???

You wanna people think you don't realized that the skeptics here pointed to your useless pieces of junk cause they cannot do anything of what's supposed they do.

How come a piece of bent brass rod can help people locating something ???

It's like you read your horoscope to figure out if you have to drop your girlfriend !

Idiotic way of doing... I can just laugh of people who belive in such lunatic stuff!

I mean... if you wanna drop your girlfriend do so ! Why the need of reading an idiotic horoscope made by some new age do-nothing, understand-nothing addicted to crystals ?

Why you LRL pretenders need that rods , uh ?

Why don't you use your nervous system... if so sophisticate stuff in the universe ?

Only reason is that who belive in LRL and mental dowsing at the end will belive he needs some pendulum or dowsing rod to "enhance" his/her powers !

You LRL addicted still belive in Santa Claus , Peter Pan, in the Three Little Pigs and other fairy tales!

People like Dell play with you like toys cause you never grown to understand reality... made of physics not fairy tales.

"THE DOOR TO KNOWLEDGE & UNDERSTANDING IS NEVER OPEN TO A CLOSED, OR PREJUDICED MIND" that seems say to people, "open your mind... belive my idiotic claims... and find your treasure with my magic , wornderful dowsing rod! "

I think this is the real venom here.

From what I remember you failed to find the coins at the beach experiment... great LRL expert!

Kind regards,
Max

[Qiaozhi]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

Better keep your daytime job, Q, You ain't no psychic or shrink.

Correct ... I'm not a psychic ... ... or even a wallet-miner.

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

I feel sorry for you that you refuse to learn to dowse. I had an relative that refused to learn to read. I think he was afraid of it.

Now, why would I want to waste my time on a ineffectual method of treasure hunting, when I have several known-working metal detectors that find treasure more than once? i.e. not just at the time of purchase.

Originally Posted by Dell Wingers

Apparently you aren't mentally capable of learning to Dowse, or learn to use LRL with success, .....

Like 100% of the world's population. Dowsing is just a trick of the mind. No-one actually learns to dowse, only how to fool themselves into believing something that is not true, and potentially parting with hard-earned money for a modified paint roller.

Originally Posted by Dell Wingers

.....least you wouldn't be ranting with prejudiced, closed minded Beliefs based on assumption, ...

I'm glad to see that this doesn't apply to you.

Originally Posted by Dell Wingers

If you claim you have more field experience, and successes with Mental Dowsing, or LRL than I do, ...

30+ years of wasted time, peddling nonsense to the unwary.

Originally Posted by Dell Wingers

Come on, Sam, show some photo's of your Mental, meta-physical Dowsing, or applied physics, LRL finds, that qualifies you to speak against me as an authority on either of these subjects. I'll try to match you, find for find either way, but I won't attempt to compete with your egotistical BS.

You would think, that years of experience with mental dowsing, would enable someone to know who they're talking to, and not get other people's identities confused? Must be having a senior moment...

Originally Posted by Dell Wingers

Of course, If you ever decide you want to learn about these subjects, just pay attention to Mike's, posts. He has done more open minded research, and has more positive field experience on these subjects, than you and the rest of the venom tounged Skeptics on this forum put together.

Actually, Mike is just a victim. Did you know that "gullible" is not listed in the Oxford English dictionary?

Originally Posted by Dell Wingers

Show your respect and gratitude for our positive contributions.

Apologies ... Oh Mighty One.

"WHAT DOESN'T WORK, CANNOT BE MADE TO WORK.

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Calling names, and demonstrating your jealousy and resentment against those who are successful with these locating methods.

Sounds like you just described yourself. You are the one that does all the name-calling, whenever someone threatens your scam LRL business.

If you claim you have more field experience, and successes with Mental Dowsing, or LRL than I do, and are more uniquely qualified to speak with accuracy on these subjects...

I see I need to educate you again! Boy, this sure does get tiring. Why don't you write this down and refer to it the next time you are confused.

What I claim; is to have dowsed in the field, in the laboratory, and to have researched and dowsed with countless dowsing contraptions, both enhanced(?) and non-enhanced to the degree that I completely understand the workings of all dowsing contraptions, and yes that includes your MFD contraptions as well as your "paint roller handles".

If I did not have that experience, knowledge and understanding, I would not be able to expose your scam products and similar products from other vendors.

Incidently, the results of my dowsing experiences are precisely the same as yours, or Mikes or any other dowser regardless of your choice of dowsing gadgets (bent rods or enhanced dowsing with do-nothing black boxes).

Come on, Sam, show

Sorry to inform you, you must have me confused with someone else, and I don't see anyone posting here by that name, do you?

"DELL'S DOOR TO KNOWLEDGE & UNDERSTANDING OF THE REAL WORLD IS CLOSED AT ALL TIMES" Dell

I guess all you really have an open mind to is Wallet-mining and selling snake oil.

BTW, did you forget; I challenge you to post right here, how your differential fields were measured (without dowsing rods), the instrument used, when it was last calibrated, who monitored the measurements and the actual documentation to record such measurements.

Guess you've got a little short-term memory loss. Does Trudy help you find your socks in the morning?

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

... If you ever decide you want to learn about these subjects, just pay attention to Mike's, posts. He has done more open minded research, and has more positive field experience on these subjects, than you and the rest of the venom tounged Skeptics on this forum put together. And like other, LRL users posting here, we have tried to contribute something positive to this forum.

Dell, what about you?
I have never seen a positive post from you , answer a question or explain something.
Why do you let someone else doing the job for you?

[Theseus]

Originally Posted by Dell Winders

Of course, If you ever decide you want to learn about these subjects, just pay attention to Mike's, posts. He has done more open minded research, and has more positive field experience on these subjects, than you and the rest of the venom tounged Skeptics on this forum put together.

I suppose you are buttering-up Mike because you have a lot of his cash drawing interest in your bank accounts.

Incidently, you just can't make a post without resorting to name-calling. I repeat, if this forum is so disturbing to you, why do you remain here?

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

...You guys talk about freedom of speech, but you try like hell to prevent us from doing so. .

What "some guys" here are trying to prevent is "other guys" trying to fool people with unproved claims. And by doing to to sell -very- expensive brazing rods and hot melt glued resistors.
Nothing related to freedom of speech.

Originally Posted by Mike(Mont)

... I had an relative that refused to learn to read. I think he was afraid of it.

You mean...a customer maybe?