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Old 10-14-2008, 02:10 AM
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Hello Fred i make these photos year ago and I can tell you that it is impossible have some vacuum in a "PVC plumber construction" of this kind
It is a joke chamber!!!!
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Old 10-14-2008, 03:18 AM
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This one you have built as 5 antennas but even if you put 10 or 100 it not locate LTA buried metals. As i told,and Esteban know very well,you need to mix the circuit with one Frequency oscilator or make the same as MINEORO devices using the ionic chamber(Gold leaf saturated by 11 Hz pulses coming from the circuit to the Anode,all this spikes charge the gold positively,this is one secret,that i wold like to know better...) .
The big failure with LRL Zahory´s in this forum its becouse they use only pure ionic circuits,extremely sensitives but not enough to locate the buried metals.
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Old 10-14-2008, 12:50 PM
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Hello Fred i make these photos year ago and I can tell you that it is impossible have some vacuum in a "PVC plumber construction" of this kind
It is a joke chamber!!!!
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Hi Alexis ,
Independently of if it works or not, i don´t think vacuum is necessary for a ion chamber to work,you can see this on the link i posted.
Of course ambiant humidity may change sensitivity.
The epoxy an pvc however don´t look like good materials for this...
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How went your project from the schematic posted here ?
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Old 10-14-2008, 06:54 PM
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Very well said Steve,
It is exactly that!!
Don't know how much you pay for year for patent, but here you pay a sum by each patent for each year, so if I come to patent all I have, I'll stay more poor!
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Old 10-14-2008, 06:57 PM
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Hello Fred i make these photos year ago and I can tell you that it is impossible have some vacuum in a "PVC plumber construction" of this kind
It is a joke chamber!!!!
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Do you understand now what I want to said? The people forgot that you post this or never navigate in Archive or investigate the threads.
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:13 PM
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Hi Alexis ,
Independently of if it works or not, i don´t think vacuum is necessary for a ion chamber to work,you can see this on the link i posted.
Of course ambiant humidity may change sensitivity.
The epoxy an pvc however don´t look like good materials for this...

How went your project from the schematic posted here ?
No need vacuum. Also some chambers no need vacuum.
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Old 10-14-2008, 08:00 PM
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Do you understand now what I want to said? The people forgot that you post this or never navigate in Archive or investigate the threads.
Yes, you are right.And then says everything is the same,a go back to lurking.
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:02 PM
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Hello Fred i make these photos year ago and I can tell you that it is impossible have some vacuum in a "PVC plumber construction" of this kind
It is a joke chamber!!!!
Alexis
If Mineoro is a joke or not thats wath i´m trying to understand but anyway did you already saw some grams of 24K gold in other LRL frauds???
Now i´m learning things about Mineoro,before i was completly skeptic...
You have done a good work opening the magic box for everybody .

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Old 10-14-2008, 11:07 PM
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Attachment 6765

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Here we can the LRL prototipe and another LRL yellow big Antenna device created by Alonso who still in TOP SECRET.
The LRL prototipe device can be improved for more distance,and maybe will find small objects. I will try to modify the antennas,i have some ideias...
E.Engeneers please dont laugh abouth this
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:45 PM
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Do you understand now what I want to said? The people forgot that you post this or never navigate in Archive or investigate the threads.
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AlexisMex,made good action,opening the Mineoro wood box and specialy the ionic chamber. You already know all the secrets about Mineoro,you have good knolenge about LRL´s, but i´m learnig,i´m curious,i´m interested...
In my point of view,the Mineoro Ionic chamber as strange design but i think works,not forget Damasio & Alonso are very good with antennas,i can see one brass antenna inside the chamber.
Acording to mineorogreece informations,the 11 Hz square pulses coming direct to the cathode thru black wire,but after i saw the AlexisMex drawing it seams it comes thru red wire direct to the gold disc,and the proximity (1mm gap)with the brass antenna creates spikes who charges the chamber with positive gold ions,Of course this sounds nonsense to E.E in this forum...
until now,it makes me big confusion,how its possible Mineoro become more sensitive when searching for treasure in the oceans[ATTACH]Name:  sens-9.jpg
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Size:  22.8 KB[/ATTACH]? Mrs Damasio told me,device become much more sensitive when searching in salt wather,rivers or lakes. IF THE IONS BECOME DISIPATED WHEN ITS MORE THAN 80% UMIDITY,HOW ITS POSSIBLE THEY GO THRU WATHER ??? Maibe you can explain this miracle.

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Old 10-15-2008, 12:55 AM
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AlexisMex,made good action,opening the Mineoro wood box and specialy the ionic chamber. You already know all the secrets about Mineoro,you have good knolenge about LRL´s, but i´m learnig,i´m curious,i´m interested...
In my point of view,the Mineoro Ionic chamber as strange design but i think works,not forget Damasio & Alonso are very good with antennas,i can see one brass antenna inside the chamber.
Acording to mineorogreece informations,the 11 Hz square pulses coming direct to the cathode thru black wire,but after i saw the AlexisMex drawing it seams it comes thru red wire direct to the gold disc,and the proximity (1mm gap)with the brass antenna creates spikes who charges the chamber with positive gold ions,Of course this sounds nonsense to E.E in this forum...
until now,it makes me big confusion,how its possible Mineoro become more sensitive when searching for treasure in the oceans[ATTACH]Attachment 6833[/ATTACH]? Mrs Damasio told me,device become much more sensitive when searching in salt wather,rivers or lakes. IF THE IONS BECOME DISIPATED WHEN ITS MORE THAN 80% UMIDITY,HOW ITS POSSIBLE THEY GO THRU WATHER ??? Maibe you can explain this miracle.

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You can imagine or design for experimentation many kinds of "sensors" come in your mind.

Humidity in air is not the same than water.
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You can imagine or design for experimentation many kinds of "sensors" come in your mind.

Humidity in air is not the same than water.
What you mean? I realy not understand...80% of Humidithy is bad for LRL but the wather 100% is good?
I´m confused,can you explain better?
Yes,i want to make some tests with diferent ionic chambers.

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Old 10-15-2008, 02:25 PM
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What you mean? I realy not understand...80% of Humidithy is bad for LRL but the wather 100% is good?
I´m confused,can you explain better?
Yes,i want to make some tests with diferent ionic chambers.

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The humidity in air or extreme fog affects all environment and disperses the small "energy" of the field, is as a shortcircuit. Water or shallow water (or shallow soil) is good conductive. In this shallow soil targets are good detectable and at more distance too.

This humidity in excess also affects circuitry, so is good for this purpose barnish PCB and components.
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The humidity in air or extreme fog affects all environment and disperses the small "energy" of the field, is as a shortcircuit. Water or shallow water (or shallow soil) is good conductive. In this shallow soil targets are good detectable and at more distance too.

This humidity in excess also affects circuitry, so is good for this purpose barnish PCB and components.
Hi esteban,
If it is so, why dry soil is better , a and how ions or magnetic field or whatever propagate thru water? this makes no sense to me...
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The humidity in air or extreme fog affects all environment and disperses the small "energy" of the field, is as a shortcircuit. Water or shallow water (or shallow soil) is good conductive. In this shallow soil targets are good detectable and at more distance too.

This humidity in excess also affects circuitry, so is good for this purpose barnish PCB and components.
Hi Esteban
As i understand,only the humidity in the air afect LRL devices,and the wather is good because conductivity,and send a lot of ions to the surface,easy colected by the ionic chamber...

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If it is so, why dry soil is better , a and how ions or magnetic field or whatever propagate thru water? this makes no sense to me...
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Also not make sense to me,but i´m learning...
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Of course we study your devices Esteban. We know very well they work,but unfortunatly you never put complete shematics...
Anyway thaks for the teory about working LRL and nice LRL device photos.
Hi Morgan. What do you say about this and it schematic ????
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Old 10-16-2008, 01:01 PM
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This is good, but also detect old bronze and copper.
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Old 10-16-2008, 01:07 PM
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Very good.... but why..... dont you have samples inside the head ????
I like it. I have the schematic of the receiver and now i try with the transmitter.
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Old 10-16-2008, 01:41 PM
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Since 1926 there are long range locator. So you can integrate in an only box as a pistol:
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Old 10-16-2008, 03:32 PM
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Very good.... but why..... dont you have samples inside the head ????
I like it. I have the schematic of the receiver and now i try with the transmitter.
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You have some pics of the pistol here:
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Old 10-16-2008, 03:47 PM
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The 1926 Radio Gold Explorer in cover of the magazine.

"Nothing is new under the Sun, except what we have forgotten." (A seamstress of king French Louis.) Wisdom!
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Also you can find it in the first??? electronic MD book: (in the cover a impulse –pulse induction?– MD two coils).
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Old 10-16-2008, 04:40 PM
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The 1926 Radio Gold Explorer in cover of the magazine.

"Nothing is new under the Sun, except what we have forgotten." (A seamstress of king French Louis.) Wisdom!
Maybe this is better:

"No new things under the Sun, except what we have forgotten."
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