New dowsing device plans....

[Mike(Mont)]

Here's a taste of what you are going to have to work with.


Q-5. How may the instrument be used to help [294] while in Arizona? What would be the correct adjustment of the dials?
A-5 This is not a fault in anyone, but rather isn't this stepping far ahead or going backward as to what has been pointed out to thee? It has been given as to how each individual may be the better aided by same. Hast thou not also been given as to how and in what way and in what manner the directory may prepare, cleanse, make of self the better channel for being of the greater aid to each and everyone? Draw a comparison, my son, as to what has been given you. Does this not stand much in that same position as illustrated in those days when the people waited? Though they had seen the Lord Jehovah descend into the mount, they had seen the mount so electrified by the presense of the od of the people and ohm of the Omnipotent to such an extent that no living thing could remain in the mount or on the same, save those two who had been cleansed by their pouring out of themselves to God, in the cleansing of their bodies, in the cleansing of their minds. And yet they tarried only a few days, their cry to the leader was, "We know not what has become of the man. Show us another way..."

That goes on another half page. BTW, the "od" he mentions is odic force.

Q-9. Please explain the relation of numerology to etheronic energy as controlled by the tuning of the dials on the instrument.
A-9. Again we are following far afield, my son. Let's commence with number one before we come to forty-six.
Numerology has it's place, as will be seen by there being set for the inferance for man upon the dials upon this machine the numbers related to the relationship between mineral life, plant life and man; bearing a relationship one to another, see? Find these by thine experimentations; for it is not to be developed in thee and thine own inner self cleansed, (not to make for getting 23 or 28 or 105 but naught - naught - naught in self) that all may vibrate to that thou mayest be able to obtain from the kingdoms that are manifestations of that etheronic energy of that God-energy in the earth, thou art seeking to use...

Obviously if I had started this thread in the "All Electronic LRL's" page it would have immediately been moved to the dowsing page.

[WM6]

http://www.sogmin.org/Defending%20the%20Faith/Cayce.htm

Excerpt:



"For a little over twenty years, from 1901 to 1922 Cayce’s readings were limited to the realm of physical healing and general moral advice. Little he said would have been at variance with the Bible. Only his strange method, and his previous occult experiences might have given one pause. On the surface Cayce was a fine Christian man. He read the Bible through every year, taught Sunday School in church, lived a respectable life, and stayed true to his wife.


Things changed dramatically in 1923. At one of his readings a man named Arthur Lammers wanted to know more than just health matters. Lammers had an interest in philosophy and eastern religion, and posed questions to the sleeping Cayce about astrology, reincarnation, theosophy, and all sorts of mystical themes. The sleeping prophet gave answers that were totally at odds with orthodox Christian beliefs, stating the reality of reincarnation and affirming many other occult practices and beliefs.


When Cayce woke from his sleep / trance he was shocked. The answers he had given were foreign to everything he had believed since boyhood. To his credit he began to wonder if he were not being used by a malicious spirit to disseminate falsehood. He told Lammers:

But what you’ve been telling me today, and what the readings have been saying, is foreign to all I’ve believed and been taught, and all I’ve taught others, all of my life. If ever the devil was going to play a trick on me, this would be it.

Over the next few days Cayce was torn between a desire to help others and a fear that he might be an instrument in the hands of Satan. One night he stood alone on a bridge and contemplated his dilemma. The thought of how much good he had done, how many people he had helped finally persuaded him. He decided that this gift he had must be from God or it wouldn’t have been so helpful to so many. He determined to carry on with his readings."

[WM6]

Another good reading about Edgar Cayce:

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1874/whats-the-scoop-on-edgar-cayce-the-sleeping-prophet

[Mike(Mont)]

This whole book is so confusing to me, I think I was looking at the wrong diagram. I admit I need to be led by the hand, step by step on this stuff and the book has none of that.

Here is my understanding of it: First you need to tune the device to yourself by placing your blood smear on the plate and finding resonance. Someone with electronics skills probably understands this. When the odic force from the blood smear travels though the wire to the tuned the circuit there is an induction coil that routes to your body via foot plates or something like it. I guess this is where the voltmeter is attached, but I could find no mention of it. Obviously a blood smear or gold coin is not going to create enough energy to be measured with a voltmeter so it must surely be connected to the human part of the circuit. I don't have as clue if this is safe or healthy. Obviously under some conditions it would be neither.

As absurd as this device appears, I would never say it can't possibly work.

[goldfinder]

Radionics

This whole book is so confusing to me, I think I was looking at the wrong diagram. I admit I need to be led by the hand, step by step on this stuff and the book has none of that.

Here is my understanding of it: First you need to tune the device to yourself by placing your blood smear on the plate and finding resonance. Someone with electronics skills probably understands this. When the odic force from the blood smear travels though the wire to the tuned the circuit there is an induction coil that routes to your body via foot plates or something like it. I guess this is where the voltmeter is attached, but I could find no mention of it. Obviously a blood smear or gold coin is not going to create enough energy to be measured with a voltmeter so it must surely be connected to the human part of the circuit. I don't have as clue if this is safe or healthy. Obviously under some conditions it would be neither.

As absurd as this device appears, I would never say it can't possibly work.

Mike,
You are looking at a radionics circuit. Look up Dr. Abrams and Dr. Ruth Drown and Other associated with the radionics art. Radionics is basically high tech dowsing calibrated - the whole 9 yards. It is used in England and Europe extensively for health care and farming etc. It was banned in the USA for health care but used a great deal in farming.

Put the Cayce quote on this forum exactly as it says and I'll translate it into a functional block diagram and possibly schematics.

You are moving into some real alternative science that works quite well if you know the rules.
Goldfinder

[WM6]

You are moving into some real alternative science that works quite well if you know the rules.

"Rules" how to successful scam people (at least in Edgar Cayce case). Yes I can agree, those rules "works quite well".

On other side, this your sentence is only "alternative science" textbook example of excuse in advance, why things does not works.

Nevertheless, I can help with schematic too, if one is interested in it.

[hung]

Mike,
You are moving into some real alternative science that works quite well if you know the rules.
Goldfinder

No, no, no. THIS IS science.
I have already stated that science is one and only. But scientists are not. There are many.
The same idiots in the scientific comunity who think the 'big bang' and the Higgs bosom exist, usually employ exotic terms to science they can't comprehend instead of trying to correct the many wrong concepts they still perpetuate.
The only 'bang' in the equation would be one in their own heads.

My friend used a radionic box to cure her wife's disease successfully.
Radionic tools are just means to amplify and potentialize the magnetic process involved. Many people actually do not need tem at all.
But this is another story...

[Mike(Mont)]

If you make the claim that all tuned circuits are the same, well that's like saying the Model T and the SRT are the same--they are both means of transportation.

[Qiaozhi]

The same idiots in the scientific comunity who think the 'big bang' and the Higgs bosom exist, usually employ exotic terms to science they can't comprehend instead of trying to correct the many wrong concepts they still perpetuate.

I assume that was a Freudian slip!

For those who don't know what a Freudian slip is, then here's a fairly good explanation ->

http://psychology.about.com/od/sigmundfreud/f/freudian-slip.htm

... especially the last part.

[hung]

Ooohh the Sasquatch is still alive.

No ozzy, it was just a typing mistake. But insignificant things always have you around...
The mentioning of Freud is a little 'far out' move since you still live in the 17th century burning books, witches and cursing every new knowledge.

You may now return to your cave back to the toy detectors forum.

[Qiaozhi]

... it was just a typing mistake.

Maybe ... maybe not.
Freudian slips often point to some underlying obsession.

[hung]

Talking 'bout insignificant things...still striving to become an 'administrator' eh?

Typing mistakes apart, I bet my english is still better than your chinese.
Unless you are a chinese freak disguised as a UK native who just love China's way of life including their wonderful democracy.
I suggest you watch TNET LRL forum some more time to learn how 'Diggin' the past' plays the administrator role.

Bye for now ozzy. Breakfast time is over.
Gotta go to the field while you make sure you go back to your cave.

[WM6]

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Gotta go to the field .........

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.... named Spoofield.

[Qiaozhi]

Talking 'bout insignificant things...still striving to become an 'administrator' eh?

Typing mistakes apart, I bet my english is still better than your chinese.
Unless you are a chinese freak disguised as a UK native who just love China's way of life including their wonderful democracy.
I suggest you watch TNET LRL forum some more time to learn how 'Diggin' the past' plays the administrator role.

Bye for now ozzy. Breakfast time is over.
Gotta go to the field while you make sure you go back to your cave.

I'll leave you with a suitable quote:

Nothing is more curious than the almost savage hostility that humor excites in those who lack it. ~George Saintsbury

[Fred]

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The same idiots in the scientific comunity who think the 'big bang' and the Higgs bosom exist, usually employ exotic terms to science they can't comprehend instead of trying to correct the many wrong concepts they still perpetuate.
The only 'bang' in the equation would be one in their own heads.

Enough talking about yourself...

What news do you have about real world detection ? Did YOU ( and not someone else) found any treasure you actually dug, and not just let be, because you were so sure it was there? Do you think if you used some "conventional" detector you could have found more gold by now on Brazilian beaches ?