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  • #76
    Originally posted by vali View Post
    HI MORGAN ?

    I requested a pdk from you to buy it. Of course ,after we wanted so much . at the end you said us i
    Also bought from another person even you said his name to me I email to him . but he didn't any
    Answer to me so not put the blame on me and not disturb of me . because you said I don't produe pdk myself and I buy it from others so I don't believe that you are a producer at the end for what you say these so mach lying . regard
    بله، من به یاد داشته باشید، شما در حال درست را نداشته باشند، کارخانه آشکارساز، و ارسال آشکارساز به کشور خود؛ زیرا تقریبا غیر ممکن است تشریفات است.

    با توجه به


    yes,thats correct,i dont have LRL factory,its hobby.
    The other problem ,is not possible to send PDK to your country becouse of formalities.

    regards

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Morgan View Post
      بله، من به یاد داشته باشید، شما در حال درست را نداشته باشند، کارخانه آشکارساز، و ارسال آشکارساز به کشور خود؛ زیرا تقریبا غیر ممکن است تشریفات است.

      با توجه به


      yes,thats correct,i dont have LRL factory,its hobby.
      The other problem ,is not possible to send PDK to your country becouse of formalities.

      regards

      Hi dear Morgan
      Saw this comment here and request schemas as well as from most problems with their territories.
      and I saw that you do not pouver produce more than two or three devices in one month.
      so you're a designer and you updated 3 or 4 types of PDK.
      and you said that even copies of your PDK does not work well.
      So I have a proposal for you and to help other people to do his PDK
      to give them at least the first scheme first PDK 2.1
      And that I do myself. in my LRL. I give the free version first. that can make the first version, can also last and update.

      becaufe it there's a proverb "Thing does not have No Gives "

      and thanks for all we are all researchers and also poor patients by Gold
      God bless all - Nicolas

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      • #78
        This is not true
        If you move cables from the coil, may be but the rest is not affected



        Originally posted by Morgan View Post
        the great problem on this PDK-2 or others 2.1 or 2.2 or even 3 , once opened and the wires moved from the original position,they cant work the same again...

        Adreas,how you go to TUNE this PDK ???

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        • #79
          Originally posted by WM6 View Post
          OK nelson, but where is clear schematic?

          From those Andreas photo you cannot copy something useful. At least I am not able to reproduce something usable from those photo, are you?

          There are hundreds of such schematics on web, and probably even Morgan don't know anymore which of those he took as basis.

          At least, no matter of design, all those passive receiver work in LRL detection the same way, mean - no way.

          I am sure that Morgan is copying this passive receiver circuit:

          Hi dear WM6

          But I can copy that hehehehe look here

          and andreas is right

          And I have share it free for all

          Discussions on LRLs of the electronic variety which also utilize L-rods or other swiveling methods.


          Yes Nelson you are right not problem if move the cable from coil for PDK !!!!!not tust not work if open the cover or move cables

          and also for OMBD not need calibration is same the PDK Circuit not have special for me.. and Andreas said need 3 hours for calibration!!!!!

          Hi andreas What need Calibrate?? not have and not need Calibration
          Attached Files
          God bless all - Nicolas

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Nicolas View Post
            .........

            Hi andreas What need Calibrate?? not have and not need Calibration
            Hi Nicolas
            I don't want to offend you
            You know we'll all about microprocessor or proteus, but... about design a real electronic LRL , I think you know nothing.
            The true is one. PDK need a calibration. For example your PCB design from PDK don't work in practice, but.... is not my right to publish here a PCB better for this project or publish more pics about place (inside PDK) distance between parts etc etc
            tHe difference between a simple circuit - LRL are... difference design PCB, place wires and small critical extra tips.
            Other example. CIrcuit DCH85. This circuit is correct, but ONE part has false value. Logical Alonso need a trimmer for this part, but if he put a trimmer is very easy build a clone and real work a commercial clones project . The better choice by Alonso is .. use a standard value from this part and maybe .. some units work other countries better or not
            I think with this method, Alonso try protect unit.
            In this case, i think is better for you my friend, you must work only with electronic rods, this "technology" you know well.
            Now if you believe you can build a PDK, please try it. All people my country try- build a clone without results outside lab, maybe you are lucky man.
            They are my opinions after 25 years learn LRL
            best wishes
            crypton's designer

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            • #81
              Originally posted by ANDREAS View Post
              Hi Nicolas
              I don't want to offend you

              Now if you believe you can build a PDK, please try it. All people my country try- build a clone without results outside lab, maybe you are lucky man.
              They are my opinions after 25 years learn LRL
              First thank you to not offend me . I also would not do it ever. just some advice and opinions.

              Is what I know is that PDK ? Morgan or yours ? ! each of you say what is his. reading this topic .

              and after me is a part of receiving circuit of Alonso. proof is here draw by yourself .











              Please do not try to say things that are incorrect. Here is the trust

              But I encourage the diligent and works and looking develops and adds

              As if you were talking about Morgan 's PDK , nothing special my friend and no clearance between the composents . and no calibration needed

              So for your OMBD it is special in its circuit that is a mix between PD and PDK and mineoro

              So what to talk you away party electronics . did not care for this type of PDK or Your OMBD . Unless the coils ( for I know that stuff. This is my domain and my specialty is in electrical engineering ) .

              of how lucky you were talking about? I built a real LRL long range 1500m
              and I built a functional PDK .

              and I want to build a machine like yours OMBD = PDK along with a distance more than 1500m without coils. especially using a large IR range 1500m magnetic field detection . and need not etalonage in laboratories.
              God bless all - Nicolas

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              • #82
                Hi Nicolas

                Is that crypton circuit you posted?



                Originally posted by Nicolas View Post
                Hi dear WM6

                But I can copy that hehehehe look here

                and andreas is right

                And I have share it free for all

                Discussions on LRLs of the electronic variety which also utilize L-rods or other swiveling methods.


                Yes Nelson you are right not problem if move the cable from coil for PDK !!!!!not tust not work if open the cover or move cables

                and also for OMBD not need calibration is same the PDK Circuit not have special for me.. and Andreas said need 3 hours for calibration!!!!!

                Hi andreas What need Calibrate?? not have and not need Calibration

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by nelson View Post
                  Hi Nicolas

                  Is that crypton circuit you posted?

                  Hi nelson we are talking about PDK and OMBD make with part of circuit Alonso PD and Morgan and Andreas said need Calibration in laboratories.But for me I not saw any Calibration to need

                  Maybe in PD need Calibrate coils and ferrite to Zero point but in PDK and OMBD nothing come calibrate
                  God bless all - Nicolas

                  << My channel >> << My shop >>

                  Please do not demand Private Messages .... I cant reply all here....For more information you can send me email ....Thank you for understanding

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Nicolas View Post
                    Hi nelson we are talking about PDK and OMBD make with part of circuit Alonso PD and Morgan and Andreas said need Calibration in laboratories.But for me I not saw any Calibration to need

                    Maybe in PD need Calibrate coils and ferrite to Zero point but in PDK and OMBD nothing come calibrate
                    Please trust me
                    I am sure 100% PDK need calibration or you can find best point with luck.
                    I see PCB-pic your post #81, this design PCB is better for PDK
                    Regarding OBMD only same circuit having with other lrl is the output stage 555 with Βuzzer and small modifications. This section for me is classic and very simple stability. Therefore we can have an opinion, but i assure you that it is wrong why you insult me, ​​when you put in the same category a OBMD as PDK
                    You know well, never i publish or write opinions about others commercial projects, if i have not my hands.
                    Especially if i don't know or I have not seen with my own eyes a circuit, i believe my opinions would be fantastic
                    Always I respect design units of the other because they have worked enough for .
                    In this case i returning again, PDK need calibration and this is not fantastic.
                    I have not more , for me this threard is closed
                    best regards
                    crypton's designer

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by ANDREAS View Post
                      Please trust me
                      I am sure 100% PDK need calibration or you can find best point with luck.
                      I see PCB-pic your post #81, this design PCB is better for PDK
                      Regarding OBMD only same circuit having with other lrl is the output stage 555 with Βuzzer and small modifications. This section for me is classic and very simple stability. Therefore we can have an opinion, but i assure you that it is wrong why you insult me, ​​when you put in the same category a OBMD as PDK
                      You know well, never i publish or write opinions about others commercial projects, if i have not my hands.
                      Especially if i don't know or I have not seen with my own eyes a circuit, i believe my opinions would be fantastic
                      Always I respect design units of the other because they have worked enough for .
                      In this case i returning again, PDK need calibration and this is not fantastic.
                      I have not more , for me this threard is closed
                      best regards
                      but i assure you that it is wrong why you insult me, ​​when you put in the same category a OBMD as PDK
                      Do not start your brother Andreas nature and the best of the best handsets
                      Of course it pooped device, as well as industry and design values
                      Sorry my brother that I hurt you unintentionally
                      I told you earlier I no offended you ever. and why Isult you my dear?!!!!! you have missunderstanding me. please not said that.

                      Especially if i don't know or I have not seen with my own eyes a circuit, i believe my opinions would be fantastic
                      I also never not talking about something I did not see him and did not have it checked and did not see what's inside after opening

                      You can look here what I wrote about your OMBD

                      Discussions on LRLs which do not include swivel methods, including "Ionic" and "Pistol Detector" devices.


                      But be confident that I will not Post that information private and out of respect for this course, our friends and trade also because I'm not stupid

                      Discussions on LRLs of the electronic variety which also utilize L-rods or other swiveling methods.
                      God bless all - Nicolas

                      << My channel >> << My shop >>

                      Please do not demand Private Messages .... I cant reply all here....For more information you can send me email ....Thank you for understanding

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                      • #86
                        Dear friends
                        I have PDK 2.1.
                        Calibration is necessary and required!
                        Regards!
                        Sneshko

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                        • #87
                          Hi brother Nicolas , Andreas is right that need very critical adjust between ........ in PDK,
                          also so need critical adjust Alonso PD with Omega Coil, I build it before 3 years and was very difficult calibration.
                          But not have stability in Tx-Osc Frequency , have shift of frequency and need continious calibration with potans.

                          Regards.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by nelson View Post
                            This is not true
                            If you move cables from the coil, may be but the rest is not affected
                            maybe you talking about the PDK-1, is less sensitive.

                            try to move something inside PDK-2 ,stay out of balance... I know why.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Nicolas View Post
                              Do not start your brother Andreas nature and the best of the best handsets
                              Of course it pooped device, as well as industry and design values
                              Sorry my brother that I hurt you unintentionally
                              I told you earlier I no offended you ever. and why Isult you my dear?!!!!! you have missunderstanding me. please not said that.



                              I also never not talking about something I did not see him and did not have it checked and did not see what's inside after opening

                              You can look here what I wrote about your OMBD

                              Discussions on LRLs which do not include swivel methods, including "Ionic" and "Pistol Detector" devices.


                              But be confident that I will not Post that information private and out of respect for this course, our friends and trade also because I'm not stupid

                              http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...t=18587&page=7
                              There are PDKs using the voltage regulator,this model is calibrated when turned ON and stay very stable all the time,however this kind of unit need 3X9V ,it more heavy and more expensive construction.Results on field are very good.

                              The PDKs more simple,no need the V.regulator circuit,and use only 2X9V. Of course it needs calibration time to time after turn ON. Results in field are amazing if the operator is very experienced,testimonials of great treasures found around the World with PDK users are TRUE.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Morgan View Post
                                There are PDKs using the voltage regulator,this model is calibrated when turned ON and stay very stable all the time,however this kind of unit need 3X9V ,it more heavy and more expensive construction.Results on field are very good.

                                The PDKs more simple,no need the V.regulator circuit,and use only 2X9V. Of course it needs calibration time to time after turn ON. Results in field are amazing if the operator is very experienced,testimonials of great treasures found around the World with PDK users are TRUE.


                                Its becouse of the many atempts to clone PDK-2.1 that i will never sell any PDK-3 .

                                With PDK-3 I can CHALLENGE all LRLs in the world ! I think ...

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