Crypton OBMD-2

[Morgan]

I have here in my LRL collection,MINEORO DC2008 with IR and same model with no IR, behavior is the same...

BTW- If someone want to make tests with MINEORO LRLs, I have here many of them for test and can sale cheap,thats becouse a few people left them here in change for PDKs and they want to sell the Mineoros

here the models :

DCH 85 700E
PDC 210 1500E
FG85
FG90
DC2006
DC2008
DC2008 with IR

Also a brand new MINEORO two box for 500E

the clients prices for this more recent models, start from 1500E to 3000E, very expensive .

regards

NOTE :

I said CHEAP only if we compare with the factory prices in Brasil.

[Tim Williams]

What metal detector?

Tim, what happened to the ground resistivity and detector grid results?
Dell seems to be imagining the results of tests that you never made.

Lazy! Lol. I'll do it I guess. Been working on other projects. I don't like cold weather.

Tim

[Tim Williams]

Hello Tim

I believe is brass target buried there,however ,most LRL users are looking only for gold and silver treasures and the brass ,copper, bronze,lead etc,can be big obstacle...

Lets say,if one field contains 100 pieces of brass and copper,and a single item of gold, will you dig for this 100 useless targets ? ...

I think CRYPTON need a better filter for select only the noble metals,and brass or others as other option.

BTW- the PDK also react the same LRL way but for noble metals,however there are one report from Greece of a few copper coins found,but all coins in fine condition...
Also PDK lost the signal when lower less than 1 meter above the target,i think it overload,i see the same hapening with your Crypton.

Good luck with your search.



Regards

I'm sure the gold will be a stronger target. How would you handle that problem? Your unit find copper too correct.

[Morgan]

noble metals

I'm sure the gold will be a stronger target. How would you handle that problem? Your unit find copper too correct.

Hello Tim

no, the PDKs are more tuned to gold and silver,however,but very rare, its possible to locate copper,if in very good condition,i mean with no patina (verdigris) the agent who insolate the not noble metals and becouse of that the PHENOMENON is very weak around this metals...
Gold never create patina , this noble metal,even if stay centuries underground, this aloud a perfect contact with ground,the PHENOMEN will be very strong. If stay many years in the same place,the GROUND BATTERY is created.


regards

[Tim Williams]

Hello Tim

no, the PDKs are more tuned to gold and silver,however,but very rare, its possible to locate copper,if in very good condition,i mean with no patina (verdigris) the agent who insolate the not noble metals and becouse of that the PHENOMENON is very weak around this metals...
Gold never create patina , this noble metal,even if stay centuries underground, this aloud a perfect contact with ground,the PHENOMEN will be very strong. If stay many years in the same place,the GROUND BATTERY is created.


regards

I see. But your unit only good for your area and still finds copper. All instruments have limits. It may be that I live on the water and salt water that is causing the hits on brass/copper. I don't mind finding copper.

[ANDREAS]

Hi all
An interesting video from user and forum member, who lives in Poland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgk-vj1NJ7s&feature=youtu.be

enjoy

[WM6]

An interesting video from user and forum member, who lives in Poland

enjoy

Really interesting video - that only prove how Crypton OBMD-2 is not able to find something, nor remotely nor from vicinity.
BTW: I didn't know that you live in Poland and take videos in Greece?

[djcelownik]

Crypton

Hi is the author of the video with Crypton OBMD 2 Poland. I am in possession of Crypton since April this year. So far I managed to find by Crypton many scales of the First World War and a few coins. OBMD 2 reacted giving a signal average of 15-20 meters. The exception was the coin from 1906 where Crypton gave a signal at a distance of 35m. Andreas posted a video that was recorded in the center of the city of 100,000 is pewłne Moher Operating Noise and therefore the search is not as easy as in the case of places where free Operating Noise increases coverage and Crypton can be more acute for anomalies. This equipment really only works one must know it well. I would like to add that I do not conduct any business with Andreas and my statement is a reflection of my own experiences. Andreas is very helpful during the first steps of Crypton. Regards

[WM6]

So far I managed to find by Crypton many scales of the First World War and a few coins.

"by Crypton"?

Video clearly show that you use metal detector to find things.

Using Crypton is evidently only waste of your detecting time.

But if you wish, enjoy in your useless toy.

[Funfinder]

1.
We see here that treasure-hunters are seducable to buy such things - even for a huge amount of money.
This is not good if the stuff they get is not worth the money at all. This was commonly spoken for the
whole LRL-problematic.

2.
Really looks like that some people who buy such devices absolutly believe personally that it works!
And then they make promotion. This is comparable with obscure priests who believe that "god"
is with em and makes great things in their lifes, while in reality they have no proves at all.

3.
We have to consider that this forum is still active in the area of "LRL pro advertisment".
This is not good for the naive and everything believing who read here as long as those who
posts such promo videos and "great" treasure-hunting-stories, can't offer any technical proves.

4.
What I really hate is that false and truth gets completly mixed up here:
If the OBMD-2 really has the potential in finding larger "anomaly fields" where in the
end an usual metal-detector is able to find something or where the chances for detecting
metal-objects are much more higher than at other areas this has to be proven made clear!

5.
An aura of total mistrusting here is not good. We are technical interested and our goal
is to find out technical developments and to discover "false" or not working experiments.
The most of the LRLs are such selfdelusional crap, comparable with astrology or
superstitious believes, but if we are working on a scientifical basis, then LRLs who have
no electronical detection-potential at all, we can exclude them easily anyway!

6.
If djcelownik really was able to detect this coin from 1906 from a distance of 35 meters
this means that he only can detect it if there is no other coin or something similar more
close or in other words:
The OBMD-2 only works at areas where finds are EXTREMLY RARE!
Or does it has a super discrimination where it only finds gold or silver?!

7.
Some "this far away area has treasure- detection-potential"-detector
(because there is some anomaly) would have its worth but:
I doubt it's directly worth thousands of bucks!

8.
I still wonder why such a LRL-detector cannot simply be used as a pinpointer, too, just
by reducing the "anomaly-sensitivity".

9.
We must not forget how much problems such a LRL causes for the treasure-hunter
if the located finds are buried deeper as the usual for pinpointing used metal-detector
is able to reach.

10.
Why such LRL-find reports can't be much more precise and often, so everybody will
see clearly how the real hunting activity looks like and how everything runs in reality?

11.
Persons who create LRLs or test it don't wanna be available all the time, they don't
get a trustworthy reputation, they don't answer important questions and that's why
it is no wonder that everyone mistrusts them, especially because of the ridiculous high
prices they offer for their unproven stuff.

12.
If a person like djcelownik really was able to detect such a coin from so far away, it would
be essential important that he leaves it at this location and repeats his detection-session
over and over again with this find so everyone can get convinced that this stuff works
repeatable and reliable at all! Which is the standard status quo for all metal-detectors!

[ANDREAS]

.........................If djcelownik really was able to detect this coin from 1906 from a distance of 35 meters
this means that he only can detect it if there is no other coin or something similar more
close or in other words:
The OBMD-2 only works at areas where finds are EXTREMLY RARE!
Or does it has a super discrimination where it only finds gold or silver?!..............................

Funfider as you know i love say true and never i sell dreams.
First for all, never i say my units detect only gold or silver ( about gold-silver i think soon i can present it). The front label OBMD-2 write " the real long range detector..." and the same we write our site.
djcelownik present last email some photos, but i cannot see this photos and i present this "photos by djcelownik" again.
As you can see this photos don't finds extremly rare. Unit can detect the first near target and if remove it can detect the second target etc etc. Same method for small distance work a classic MD with full discrimination and reject iron.
For me Poland is base-experiment for check if setup-calibration by user and new preamps work with full humidity and rain, before send device "english treasure hunting clubs" for demostration.
I believe in the potential of my devices, but i like work with small marketing steps, before on world understanding my units are really machines
regards

[djcelownik]

Crypton

Hi all skeptics. I have to admit that at first I was also a skeptic when it comes to LRL. Writing a lot of e-mails to Andreas always asked the question: `` if Crypton certainly works? ``-I saw that Andreas was bad at some point in my repeating the question .. I took a chance by deciding that he wants to have Crypton. The first foray of OBMD-2 I found a coin from 1906 and a few plaques. I sent an e-mail with photos to Andreas-writing that `` either got lucky or Crypton actually works `` I have to admit that still did not give 100% confidence Crypton. On the next trip I found another coin chromium, nickel, aluminum and brass-tone very strong, buried under a tree. Again, send an e-mail with photos to Andreas writing `` unless actually Crypton works but not 100% sure I did not have `` Then there were more trips on the lookout for which reassured myself that Crypton actually works. Today, I am writing to Andreas I'm lucky just send the video and write about the finds. I still refer to the last film and the use of the detector type MD. Three days before I was making a movie for a while in the garden in which I had a strong signal from Crypton but I have not done a video for lack of time. The day was sunny and a few days earlier. I przyjechć the next day to do a video but the weather has changed and the next two rain. After three days I showed up again in the garden in order to make the film. Crypton has not been able to determine the zero point due not to the end of the dry land-confirmed what he wrote Andreas `` zero point can be determined with great precision if the ground is dry ``In my country, in the period May - June is often raining so using the MD detector during this period is necessary. I greet supporters and opponents

[WM6]

The same way (along with metal detector) as Crypton, you can use any simple and cheap swivel dowsing rod.

Results will be exactly the same.

And for exactly the same, but more fast results, you need to use metal detector only, without such expensive dowsing crap.

[Funfinder]

Thx for the interesting replies!

@ Andreas
Nice coincidence, the first coin you posted I found already, too
It should be a 2 Kreutzer coin (formerly austrian-hungarian monarchy).
Andreas, you know from my earlier conversations that I really do not think that
you wanna fool anybody - for me you are a skilled electronic-engineer,
but in the end the big question is:

How really good useful for the treasure-hunting world your detectors are ?!

I absolutly hope and would wish they are very useful and of course then everone would
fully be thankful and respects your great development and discovery-work -
just for now it needs a real huge afford of convincing-work!

And it's good if the detection is not limited to gold or silver only.

Per instance now this new test-results from djcelownik are looking very promising
but we must consider much more circumstances and "hunting-parameters":

The big question starts already with: What location is really useful to test the OBMD-2?!

Perhaps some kind of wood where really extremly few stuff is buried and where
this before was made shure by a metal-detector.

If we have to guess that the OBMD-2 has a "here is the target"-field of 2meters radius
and the location is somewhere with many finds, of course the metal detector has a
very high chance to find something at this large located place.

Thats why only a region is useful for such tests, where extremly few stuff is located.

How can otherwise exclude that only stuff just by pure chance gets found?!

How exact works the OBMD-2? How large is the final "here is the find"-field?!

Of course if it is possible to find and extract simple one find after another because
the signal is stronger for the closer find it is very good, but we must test this first.

regards



@ djcelownik

Thank you for the new infos. btw. I have a metal-detector from poland and I
also dig out the stuff since a long time with a good garden-shovel from Poland.

Its interesting to read that you was careful and critical before you
bought the OBMD-2.
But I hope now your successful results have really substance!
If so, they should be repeatable some other place, some other time,
or what do you think?
Per instance you can repeat such tests in deep woods or up at some mountains
so you can exclude that at those hunting regions are much more finds as you may guess.

It was also good that you said already the weather may have a strong influence
so while wet or rainy weather or with very humid soil the detection does not work.

And perhaps you can explain a little bit the video:
I hear all the time the same beeps so how could you know when the signal was stronger?

However, it would be a real SENSATION here for this forum if you djcelownik
together with Andreas are able to provide real convicible tests including the needed
background information.


If not, many people here just will think it is the same unbelievable story-stuff
as it was all the time before.

Seen technically it is highly unprobable if not completly impossible that a single coin
can create some detectable distortion of the EM-field so it can be found from
many meters away, especially if buried and not testable with in-air coins.

djcelownik, why don't you go to a metal-detector-club or visit a treasure-hunter-party
and demonstrate the OBMD-2 for all the people there and listen what they say
about it? That way you would at least get a real feedback from other persons
concerning how the detector works under real conditions.

Do you think, you could convince them?

The most important thing is that you find a way to make it clear that
the find really was "detected only" with the OBMD-2 and not just by pure chance
with the "pinpointing" metal-detector.

This means that the detection signal has to be connected without any doubt
with a certain find, and not with dozens of possible at a place buried stuff.

Good luck.