Tweet
Originally posted by hung
View Post
-
Thanks Hung and we are waiting your news finds and your practical deviceGod bless all - Nicolas
<< My channel >> << My shop >>
Please do not demand Private Messages .... I cant reply all here....For more information you can send me email ....Thank you for understanding -
Very good, at least some interesting discussion has started.
But its so childish and stupid always deviding the opinions regarding LRL into pro and contra
or as it is here into believers and skeptics.
There are no absolute positions involved in this case - the whole thing is just about true or false informations.
And the culprit of course are those who wanna "protect" or "bunker" any kind of needed informations.
In terms of law those already would get punishment because they are hindering the law-enforcements
to discover the truth and/or they are destroying evidence and spam this forum with false leads.
Of course seen under the real conditions what we have here this is just a bad "joke" or a childsplay!
But it can learn people how to fool others by creating wannabe random signal circuits
and sell them for a high price to naive or newbie treasure-hunters and this has to
be stopped!
If all those pseudo-detector-circuits hide and seek game players would play with
open cards the whole problem would have been solved since a long time!
Or call it the "technical details".
But no, they must cover and prohibit the information they have because of their
"special" interests. Like robbers who must run away through the chimney they
think nobody would see whats really going on, but of course analytical thinking
persons can see their "black noses", full of pseudo-scientific illusions!
We can see our eager "LRL-believers" as a punishment sent from god:
They are here to rob the money of the evil and greedy tomb-raiders!
Therefore of course they must keep their fraud-technology kept as a big secret,
otherwise those cheating-tricks wouldn't work no longer or just for the half time.
Some of course are totally innocent, they play in the liga of the betrayed betrayers,
comparable with disciples of the huge master of some sort of sect who tells all the time
that the community is on the perfect mission - to save the world or whatever.
Cheated sheeps which are following the big bad wolve without knowing it.
Infact the whole topic is so ridiculous simple:
"Look, here I have a stone and it can float in the air like a ballon!"
This is what they wanna tell us about their LRLs.
Nice and funny if it was a stone, but because it's some kind of "wired" electronic device
they think they can find all kind of holes and excuses so they must not prove how their
stone really is able to float!
Honestly seen those wannabe LRL circuits are only working and giving provable results
at some close range of "border distance region".
At good conditions it may be possible to detect a coin from 1,5m. Repeatable.
But only just because this device is tuned to the absolute critical maximum (completly
unusable under real treasure-hunting because of its instability) and the circuit is
totally built for detecting coins.
With a 50cm ferrite-coil and a high sensitive circuit the same result could be reached.
Just take a look at those "primitive" coils those hombrew LRLs are using!
Starting from this single point every expert will tell you that it can't work.
Finding treasure-caches from 100m distance with some 50 or 100 windings
and 5cm radius - this CAN'T WORK!
And the design:
Those circuits have no possibility for filtering real directionally the good and
important "anomalies" from the whole surrounding "soup" of unwanted noise!
Those pdk circuits are comparable with primitive compasses if it comes to
how sophisticated is the whole thing, just the compass really works reliable
as long as their are no huge distortions while the PDK not even works if their
almost zero distortions at all!
As long as this whole "PDK project" don't get newly started from scratch incl.
useful and logical correct information which is needed to built something working up
this kind of stuff is only lucrative to fraudsters, betrayers or betrayed treasure-dreamers!
btw. I would have no problem if the "LRL-Gurus" keep all of their secrets, IF!!!
they would have something real proven working.
I don't need to know exactly how a TV works only just to built it on my own.
Almost no people will do this, because we have mass-production which create
real working TVs for a reasonable price.
Instead of having real working products they're acting like voodoo-priests who
must seal away the secrets of the universe to the outside world!
Just like criminals they destroy the whole "information-line" so the victims
doesn't get the needed warnings beforewards and so they can be tricked easily!
Answer me one simple question:
Why those "LRL-secret-keepers, freaks or believers" wan't to keep away any useful
electronical info from a device that proven does not work?!
Of course they don't have to lose important patent-invention-creativity sources or
potential because therefore they first would need something technically acceptable!
If you go to the patent-pending-lawyer with your PDK circuit stuff he will laugh!
He will think: Yeah, another stupid one who created some sort of crap, but I don't
care as long as I get enough fee from this kind of dreamers.
And of course he knows that there never will be any mass-production or otherwise
with the patent-proof documents (sketches, circuits etc.) in his hand those guy
would get really big problems if he get's accussed for selling fraud-products.
Wake up, from your LRL-dreams. If you are not a true criminal who wanna make
the huge business with this kind of "random access signal detectors", just stop it.
Only criminals hide the secrets of notworking products from others!
So stop it if you are not a criminal!
Bag-thieves also don't cry out loud how tricky they are pick-pocking!
Or invent a real working LRL for your own until it is really of use and don't play
the big secret-chandling inventor here, just for making people curious for nothing!
Finding treasures with the already known PDK-circuits is the same effective
than pinning a map to the wall, throwing a darts-arrow on it and dig at that place!
Pure random coincidence - which of course "works", because at many places you
can find every few steps some kind of crap! And then the self-delusions starts,
because the PDK-user thinks it would have been some sort of "real signal". No.
The real problem is not that the "LRL-believers" should create their own forum or
google-group, it is they are seeking the public and wanna sell their stuff as some
sort of "real working" and "real serious" electronic device!
That's why they are seeking and looking for a playground which "could attract"
potential victims. The serious forum is needed as camouflage!
If their fourm would be clearly recognizable as one of those lunatic, esoterical, magical,
extraterrestric, ghostbelieving etc. hideouts of some sort of freaks no serious
treasure-hunter would go or buy from there.
Just imagine if the Mineoro-Website would be full of esoterical nonsens:
Nobody would be so stupid to give away thousands of bucks for creators of a product
where the website looks like as some kind of Harry Potter wonderland!
btw. it is not clever to brag with notworking LRLs on the internet!
Its like writing every day on facebook: "Shame on me, yesterday again I've got no Sex!!"
If you are a real man who has pride please don't look like a loser who desperatly is
trying to achieve something and all the time the result is just "nada".
You can proudly introduce the visitors and members of the LRLs forum here to your new LRL -
but AFTER if it is really working - not BEFORE.
The solution for peace and understanding would be so simple:
Providing real useful information in the area of LRL-detection instead of all kind of absurd fairy-tales...
Comment
-
BLA BLA BLA COMMETS WITH NO SENSE AT ALL.
I RECOMEND NOT TO ANSWER TO THIS COMMENTS
I PASS
DEAR LRL INVESTIGATORS AND EXPERIMENTERS, JUST CONTINUE YOUR JOB AND DON´T ANSWER TO NO SENSE COMMENTS, CAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO LET IT PASS
SORRY FUNFINDER OR MAY BE SADFINDER
Originally posted by Funfinder View PostVery good, at least some interesting discussion has started.
But its so childish and stupid always deviding the opinions regarding LRL into pro and contra
or as it is here into believers and skeptics.
There are no absolute positions involved in this case - the whole thing is just about true or false informations.
And the culprit of course are those who wanna "protect" or "bunker" any kind of needed informations.
In terms of law those already would get punishment because they are hindering the law-enforcements
to discover the truth and/or they are destroying evidence and spam this forum with false leads.
Of course seen under the real conditions what we have here this is just a bad "joke" or a childsplay!
But it can learn people how to fool others by creating wannabe random signal circuits
and sell them for a high price to naive or newbie treasure-hunters and this has to
be stopped!
If all those pseudo-detector-circuits hide and seek game players would play with
open cards the whole problem would have been solved since a long time!
Or call it the "technical details".
But no, they must cover and prohibit the information they have because of their
"special" interests. Like robbers who must run away through the chimney they
think nobody would see whats really going on, but of course analytical thinking
persons can see their "black noses", full of pseudo-scientific illusions!
We can see our eager "LRL-believers" as a punishment sent from god:
They are here to rob the money of the evil and greedy tomb-raiders!
Therefore of course they must keep their fraud-technology kept as a big secret,
otherwise those cheating-tricks wouldn't work no longer or just for the half time.
Some of course are totally innocent, they play in the liga of the betrayed betrayers,
comparable with disciples of the huge master of some sort of sect who tells all the time
that the community is on the perfect mission - to save the world or whatever.
Cheated sheeps which are following the big bad wolve without knowing it.
Infact the whole topic is so ridiculous simple:
"Look, here I have a stone and it can float in the air like a ballon!"
This is what they wanna tell us about their LRLs.
Nice and funny if it was a stone, but because it's some kind of "wired" electronic device
they think they can find all kind of holes and excuses so they must not prove how their
stone really is able to float!
Honestly seen those wannabe LRL circuits are only working and giving provable results
at some close range of "border distance region".
At good conditions it may be possible to detect a coin from 1,5m. Repeatable.
But only just because this device is tuned to the absolute critical maximum (completly
unusable under real treasure-hunting because of its instability) and the circuit is
totally built for detecting coins.
With a 50cm ferrite-coil and a high sensitive circuit the same result could be reached.
Just take a look at those "primitive" coils those hombrew LRLs are using!
Starting from this single point every expert will tell you that it can't work.
Finding treasure-caches from 100m distance with some 50 or 100 windings
and 5cm radius - this CAN'T WORK!
And the design:
Those circuits have no possibility for filtering real directionally the good and
important "anomalies" from the whole surrounding "soup" of unwanted noise!
Those pdk circuits are comparable with primitive compasses if it comes to
how sophisticated is the whole thing, just the compass really works reliable
as long as their are no huge distortions while the PDK not even works if their
almost zero distortions at all!
As long as this whole "PDK project" don't get newly started from scratch incl.
useful and logical correct information which is needed to built something working up
this kind of stuff is only lucrative to fraudsters, betrayers or betrayed treasure-dreamers!
btw. I would have no problem if the "LRL-Gurus" keep all of their secrets, IF!!!
they would have something real proven working.
I don't need to know exactly how a TV works only just to built it on my own.
Almost no people will do this, because we have mass-production which create
real working TVs for a reasonable price.
Instead of having real working products they're acting like voodoo-priests who
must seal away the secrets of the universe to the outside world!
Just like criminals they destroy the whole "information-line" so the victims
doesn't get the needed warnings beforewards and so they can be tricked easily!
Answer me one simple question:
Why those "LRL-secret-keepers, freaks or believers" wan't to keep away any useful
electronical info from a device that proven does not work?!
Of course they don't have to lose important patent-invention-creativity sources or
potential because therefore they first would need something technically acceptable!
If you go to the patent-pending-lawyer with your PDK circuit stuff he will laugh!
He will think: Yeah, another stupid one who created some sort of crap, but I don't
care as long as I get enough fee from this kind of dreamers.
And of course he knows that there never will be any mass-production or otherwise
with the patent-proof documents (sketches, circuits etc.) in his hand those guy
would get really big problems if he get's accussed for selling fraud-products.
Wake up, from your LRL-dreams. If you are not a true criminal who wanna make
the huge business with this kind of "random access signal detectors", just stop it.
Only criminals hide the secrets of notworking products from others!
So stop it if you are not a criminal!
Bag-thieves also don't cry out loud how tricky they are pick-pocking!
Or invent a real working LRL for your own until it is really of use and don't play
the big secret-chandling inventor here, just for making people curious for nothing!
Finding treasures with the already known PDK-circuits is the same effective
than pinning a map to the wall, throwing a darts-arrow on it and dig at that place!
Pure random coincidence - which of course "works", because at many places you
can find every few steps some kind of crap! And then the self-delusions starts,
because the PDK-user thinks it would have been some sort of "real signal". No.
The real problem is not that the "LRL-believers" should create their own forum or
google-group, it is they are seeking the public and wanna sell their stuff as some
sort of "real working" and "real serious" electronic device!
That's why they are seeking and looking for a playground which "could attract"
potential victims. The serious forum is needed as camouflage!
If their fourm would be clearly recognizable as one of those lunatic, esoterical, magical,
extraterrestric, ghostbelieving etc. hideouts of some sort of freaks no serious
treasure-hunter would go or buy from there.
Just imagine if the Mineoro-Website would be full of esoterical nonsens:
Nobody would be so stupid to give away thousands of bucks for creators of a product
where the website looks like as some kind of Harry Potter wonderland!
btw. it is not clever to brag with notworking LRLs on the internet!
Its like writing every day on facebook: "Shame on me, yesterday again I've got no Sex!!"
If you are a real man who has pride please don't look like a loser who desperatly is
trying to achieve something and all the time the result is just "nada".
You can proudly introduce the visitors and members of the LRLs forum here to your new LRL -
but AFTER if it is really working - not BEFORE.
The solution for peace and understanding would be so simple:
Providing real useful information in the area of LRL-detection instead of all kind of absurd fairy-tales...Comment
-
How do you know that? Is the universal Truth in you ? Are you a supreme judge ? Or did you develop a unilateral skeptic mind at some time to it ?Originally posted by hung View Post
Well, even considering it true, what is your problem with that ? Is it bad for YOUR business?Originally posted by hung View Post Personally i don´t care, as long as we all learn something, so why do you ?
Comment
-
Over the years, Hung has contributed absolutely zero input to the technical discussions here. Even in the RS Forum (where he was briefly a member) his presence was devoted to spreading FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt), and maliciously muddying the waters with false information, such as that related to the switch wiring on the Alonso PD. Not to mention a faked video of a home-made LRL, that was recorded in his bedroom, despite repeatedly telling Carl that LRL testing indoors was a complete no-no, and all tests should be done in the field.Originally posted by Fred View Post- [question posed to Hung] - Well, even considering it true, what is your problem with that ? Is it bad for YOUR business? Personally i don´t care, as long as we all learn something, so why do you ?
His problem is clearly one of self-interest, and concern that his house of cards may someday collapse.
Comment
-
Being a Professional Treasure Hunter/Salvor, I can only afford to use tools that prove to work, regardless of the manufacturer. I've field tested, or used most of the Geophysical, and Treasure hunting tools that have been on the market. 40 years of field experience does not qualify me as an electronic expert, but it does qualify me to know what works in the field, and what does not.Originally posted by Funfinder View PostVery good, at least some interesting discussion has started.
But its so childish and stupid always deviding the opinions regarding LRL into pro and contra
or as it is here into believers and skeptics.
There are no absolute positions involved in this case - the whole thing is just about true or false informations.
And the culprit of course are those who wanna "protect" or "bunker" any kind of needed informations.
In terms of law those already would get punishment because they are hindering the law-enforcements
to discover the truth and/or they are destroying evidence and spam this forum with false leads.
Of course seen under the real conditions what we have here this is just a bad "joke" or a childsplay!
But it can learn people how to fool others by creating wannabe random signal circuits
and sell them for a high price to naive or newbie treasure-hunters and this has to
be stopped!
If all those pseudo-detector-circuits hide and seek game players would play with
open cards the whole problem would have been solved since a long time!
Or call it the "technical details".
But no, they must cover and prohibit the information they have because of their
"special" interests. Like robbers who must run away through the chimney they
think nobody would see whats really going on, but of course analytical thinking
persons can see their "black noses", full of pseudo-scientific illusions!
We can see our eager "LRL-believers" as a punishment sent from god:
They are here to rob the money of the evil and greedy tomb-raiders!
Therefore of course they must keep their fraud-technology kept as a big secret,
otherwise those cheating-tricks wouldn't work no longer or just for the half time.
Some of course are totally innocent, they play in the liga of the betrayed betrayers,
comparable with disciples of the huge master of some sort of sect who tells all the time
that the community is on the perfect mission - to save the world or whatever.
Cheated sheeps which are following the big bad wolve without knowing it.
Infact the whole topic is so ridiculous simple:
"Look, here I have a stone and it can float in the air like a ballon!"
This is what they wanna tell us about their LRLs.
Nice and funny if it was a stone, but because it's some kind of "wired" electronic device
they think they can find all kind of holes and excuses so they must not prove how their
stone really is able to float!
Honestly seen those wannabe LRL circuits are only working and giving provable results
at some close range of "border distance region".
At good conditions it may be possible to detect a coin from 1,5m. Repeatable.
But only just because this device is tuned to the absolute critical maximum (completly
unusable under real treasure-hunting because of its instability) and the circuit is
totally built for detecting coins.
With a 50cm ferrite-coil and a high sensitive circuit the same result could be reached.
Just take a look at those "primitive" coils those hombrew LRLs are using!
Starting from this single point every expert will tell you that it can't work.
Finding treasure-caches from 100m distance with some 50 or 100 windings
and 5cm radius - this CAN'T WORK!
And the design:
Those circuits have no possibility for filtering real directionally the good and
important "anomalies" from the whole surrounding "soup" of unwanted noise!
Those pdk circuits are comparable with primitive compasses if it comes to
how sophisticated is the whole thing, just the compass really works reliable
as long as their are no huge distortions while the PDK not even works if their
almost zero distortions at all!
As long as this whole "PDK project" don't get newly started from scratch incl.
useful and logical correct information which is needed to built something working up
this kind of stuff is only lucrative to fraudsters, betrayers or betrayed treasure-dreamers!
btw. I would have no problem if the "LRL-Gurus" keep all of their secrets, IF!!!
they would have something real proven working.
I don't need to know exactly how a TV works only just to built it on my own.
Almost no people will do this, because we have mass-production which create
real working TVs for a reasonable price.
Instead of having real working products they're acting like voodoo-priests who
must seal away the secrets of the universe to the outside world!
Just like criminals they destroy the whole "information-line" so the victims
doesn't get the needed warnings beforewards and so they can be tricked easily!
Answer me one simple question:
Why those "LRL-secret-keepers, freaks or believers" wan't to keep away any useful
electronical info from a device that proven does not work?!
Of course they don't have to lose important patent-invention-creativity sources or
potential because therefore they first would need something technically acceptable!
If you go to the patent-pending-lawyer with your PDK circuit stuff he will laugh!
He will think: Yeah, another stupid one who created some sort of crap, but I don't
care as long as I get enough fee from this kind of dreamers.
And of course he knows that there never will be any mass-production or otherwise
with the patent-proof documents (sketches, circuits etc.) in his hand those guy
would get really big problems if he get's accussed for selling fraud-products.
Wake up, from your LRL-dreams. If you are not a true criminal who wanna make
the huge business with this kind of "random access signal detectors", just stop it.
Only criminals hide the secrets of notworking products from others!
So stop it if you are not a criminal!
Bag-thieves also don't cry out loud how tricky they are pick-pocking!
Or invent a real working LRL for your own until it is really of use and don't play
the big secret-chandling inventor here, just for making people curious for nothing!
Finding treasures with the already known PDK-circuits is the same effective
than pinning a map to the wall, throwing a darts-arrow on it and dig at that place!
Pure random coincidence - which of course "works", because at many places you
can find every few steps some kind of crap! And then the self-delusions starts,
because the PDK-user thinks it would have been some sort of "real signal". No.
The real problem is not that the "LRL-believers" should create their own forum or
google-group, it is they are seeking the public and wanna sell their stuff as some
sort of "real working" and "real serious" electronic device!
That's why they are seeking and looking for a playground which "could attract"
potential victims. The serious forum is needed as camouflage!
If their fourm would be clearly recognizable as one of those lunatic, esoterical, magical,
extraterrestric, ghostbelieving etc. hideouts of some sort of freaks no serious
treasure-hunter would go or buy from there.
Just imagine if the Mineoro-Website would be full of esoterical nonsens:
Nobody would be so stupid to give away thousands of bucks for creators of a product
where the website looks like as some kind of Harry Potter wonderland!
btw. it is not clever to brag with notworking LRLs on the internet!
Its like writing every day on facebook: "Shame on me, yesterday again I've got no Sex!!"
If you are a real man who has pride please don't look like a loser who desperatly is
trying to achieve something and all the time the result is just "nada".
You can proudly introduce the visitors and members of the LRLs forum here to your new LRL -
but AFTER if it is really working - not BEFORE.
The solution for peace and understanding would be so simple:
Providing real useful information in the area of LRL-detection instead of all kind of absurd fairy-tales...
My motto of, "What has already been done, can be done" continues to prove true regardless of Ego's, or Beliefs.
Here Sir, is a simple, working, (subject to favorable operating conditions) discriminating LRL, that I and others have used. It works according to Harmonic Induction principles, or as qiaozhi, mistakenly refers to as "Dowsing" Dell
"WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, CAN BE DONE" Comment
-
Per il divertente finder
Renato ROMERO
Str. Luisetti 12
CUMIANA (ITALY)
I was born in 1965 and live in a little city, CUMIANA, of 6'000 peoples;
position 44° 57' 24" north / 7° 25' 11" east, in N-W Italy, 35 km SW from TURIN.
I live in the middle of the country, far from industrial sites. It is a quiet site to listen to natural radio signals.
I begun listening to VLF radio some years ago, in 1993, with the NASA-INSPIRE project. I continue doing different radio activities, all in frequencies below 22 kHz. I'm LWCA member too.
This web site has been written in english (at least in my intentions and with big difficulty) to reach the greatest number of interested people; sorry in advance for the mistakes.
WHY THIS WEB SITE?
Listening the natural origin radio signals is a very suggestive experience with its particular charm.
As you point a binnacle in a star night observing huge quantities of shining stars lost in the infinity of the space. Its true: it's just burning gas, but it can make us dream and think.
Here we are not talking about esotherism: the adjectives suggestive mysterious and unknown are used in the scientific use only, in order to comment real phenomena: by mysterious is meant for instance a signal emitted by a physical phenomena we donut know yet.
In RBW22 we don't call nor spirits nor aliens: even if we respect every idea about the matter is apparently notorious that VLF would be a terrible way for communicating with spirits or aliens.
Maybe is easier to have betters result in the research of alien signals with a TV UHF antenna rather then with a dipole di terra of 150 m. This don't mean VLF are not suggestive.
Matters treated in this site are not developed in cathedratic way, nor this site want to do school, we leave to scientists and teachers their jobs. HTML structure is very easy and from principal menu is possible to have a complete vision of everything is contained in the site in order to make the web surfing as easier as possible.
In the site you could find several little mistakes: formulas, circuits, frequencies and language mistakes I have done all over this document. The Open Lab experience consists on the possibility of experience and work condivision, without the fear of who writes a book or with the fear of being judged by some experts.
Even without big technological supplies, as the laboratory very expensive devices during expensive researches, is possible to realize very interesting radio scientific experiences to share and to comparate with the field experts. One year life of RBW22 showed.
Thanks for cooperation.
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=148419#post148419
God bless all - Nicolas
<< My channel >> << My shop >>
Please do not demand Private Messages .... I cant reply all here....For more information you can send me email ....Thank you for understandingComment
-
@ Nicolas
Of course this is still cooperation, Nicolas, for technical interested people like you -
otherwise I wouldn't write here at all.
But it is also punishment and huge critizism to all who wanna play false games here
and rob innocent naive people precious ressources, be it money, time or whatever.
Instead of writing here I could enjoy my life but I wanna show some engagement -
this is also for the benefit of the treasure-hunting community itself which can't
afford to waste his hard earned money for "illusional things".
And I wanna support Carls basic intention who brought already enough light into
sinister LRL-pandora boxes - for our all sake, don't forget this.
@ Nelson
It is sad that you are so deep into your LRL thing that you won't accept the opinions
of others anymore. Is it so hard to understand that the public wants something
reasonable, working and technical understandable instead any "mystical tales"?
Your comment was just a proof of ignorance. Someone also can't discuss with fanatic believers
of some sort of "religions" - in fact many just consisting of 1000 year old fairy-tales, too.
@ Dell Winders
You may be a really good person seen from the heart with honest intentions and a true
will for working technical things out but seems something goes wrong big time - I have no idea what.
So please try to explain to us where do you see the difference in your work compared
to Garrett or other "real working MD producers"?
Now you have the "solar-wind"-excuse and before you may had others.
Please Dell, ask yourself:
Until what point you can provide any serious proof? Does your detector(s) find something
at least from 1meter under provable conditions? And what arguments do you have if you
have to explain that it will work under good conditions at much better distance?
What I wanna say to you and to all:
@ all
Give us a starting point! A STARTING POINT, like where you start a race!
If you LRL-convinced people don't even have such a "minimal requirements needed detection
possibility" how you can assume we would accept your stories of much larger distances?!
If I can't move a wheel which is fixed on some axes not just 1mm because everything
is completly rusted how should I assume it will be able turning around like hell?
And by the way - just as a warning to everyone here:
If people wanna rip off others there are 2 very simple choices:
1) Declaring sh*t as gold
2) "receiving" (better: exploiting) actual ressources for a so called better future!
Paying church-taxes per instance: Work now hard and give the earned money away for a
paradisic afterlife!
Or pumping up usual ground-water and declare it as luxury mineral water!
...too bad, you have been tricked... but as a rich millionaire you have enough cash anyway...
Similar methods too many wanna-be scoundrels apply to sell their LRLs:
"Pay thousands of bucks NOW for this super real working detector and earn LATER the
huge treasures with it!"
Yeah, absolutly for shure.... Who wants to be the victim?
Before one single LRL should get the permission for being sold the user should have
2 weeks of "try before you buy" and if he is not happy with it, no matter why,
the full money must given back! This is the only method to stop all those dirty
developments in the LRL scene once and for all.
Nobody needs a stove pipe where only the owner itself can see through it the moon
like with a huge telescope!
Can't you understand this, dear LRL convinced?
Is this too much for you?
Do you know the fairy-tale:
The Emperor's New Clothes
(Hans Christian Andersen)
eng translated link:
http://translate.google.com/translat...-k_kleider.htm
Where only the weavers and the betrayed emperor could see the shiny fantastic clothes?
Read it, its a perfect analogy to the nonsens that we are facing here since many years!
And the most guilty culprit of course are persons like hung who pretend to sit directly
on the source of "special information" and provide nothing than bullsh*t here.
@ All you others LRL convinced electronical interested persons
Don't you understand that for shure it will be very hard for anyone to believe what
you wanna tell us if even already the "main LRL specialists" like hung create such a mess?
I ask again:
Where is your real provable starting point?
Where are your LRL-basics?
Something ultra-simple like the lamp circuit (inbetween of a battery).
Or described even better:
Where do you think is your fundament if it comes to real working LRL-circuits ?? ? ? ?? ?
By Alonso? By hung? At South-America somewhere deep in the jungle?
by the way: All those rain-forest destroyers there should face a second bloody
conquistadores invasion - would be the best solution to them....
What makes you better than those mentioned "LRL experts" who told already nothing
than "invincible clothes stories" here?!
If you are working serious and scientific and even if you got just basic but real provable
results everything is fine.
And how can you think that Alonso himself couldn't improve his own 20 years old circuit
much better (or has tried it already) than all you guy now wanna do?
See it simple: Something that doesn't work can't get improved!
So better focus your eyes on something real useful.
If you remain fixed to this infamous Alonso circuit (because it costed already enough people
a fortune! ) all you do is like trying to create 1 meter sparks with a piezo-lighter - it also can't work!
(ok, maybe it works with a huge additional coil, but you wouldn't see the ultra-thin flash anymore)
Where is your small but at least really working technological LRL starting point ?!
I ask it again and again... ask it yourself, if you can...
This is the minimum we have to know.Comment
-
Originally posted by Funfinder View Post
Thanks Funfinder for your advice for me
Originally posted by Funfinder View Post
@ all
Before one single LRL should get the permission for being sold the user should have
2 weeks of "try before you buy" and if he is not happy with it, no matter why,
the full money must given back! This is the only method to stop all those dirty
developments in the LRL scene once and for all.
Nobody needs a stove pipe where only the owner itself can see through it the moon
like with a huge telescope!
Can't you understand this, dear LRL convinced?
I m agree with this Proposal .... I sell by this way
God bless all - Nicolas
<< My channel >> << My shop >>
Please do not demand Private Messages .... I cant reply all here....For more information you can send me email ....Thank you for understandingComment
-
I accept opinions but not people that claims to have the reason about LRL and trying to stop others from build and experiment with LRL. That is my problem and i m shure others have the same opinions, so don´t waste your time trying to stop others to keep experimenting. You are just destroying what others bealive to be tru. So far experimentation will continue what ever your comments will be
@ Nelson
It is sad that you are so deep into your LRL thing that you won't accept the opinions
of others anymore. Is it so hard to understand that the public wants something
reasonable, working and technical understandable instead any "mystical tales"?
Your comment was just a proof of ignorance. Someone also can't discuss with fanatic believers
of some sort of "religions" - in fact many just consisting of 1000 year old fairy-tales, too.Comment
-
Originally posted by Nicolas View PostThanks Funfinder for your advice for me
I m agree with this Proposal .... I sell by this way
@ Nicolas
I hope you sell good stuff so why do you laughing? Are you proud of your good work?
Are you laughing out loud the stupid persons who buy from you (notworking???) stuff
or do you sell real working detectors and everyone is happy with it - and this makes you happy?!
However - this still would be no proof about if its good what you're doing,
tricked esoteric believers also are full satisfied how fantatstic engergizing
their new quartz- and other mineral-stones are - especially if they put them
over night into a glass of water and drink this "super elixire" in the morning!
How serious is your work so that it's acceptable for the whole public who wants real working stuff?
@ Nelson
Please learn first the difference of real working things versus "selfmotivating by believe".
The intentions of the betrayed betrayers may be good as hell but they still bring not the
smallest benefits to the world - they just manipulate and illusionate the mind with
notworking wish-dreams.
@ all LRL-super-convinced who haven't any serious and counting proves:
As example all those who believe in their gods shall be forced to get no longer any food
than Manna which falls from the sky! Happy praying and eating, have a nice feast!
And how it would be for all LRL-dreamers if we create a law that they have to earn their
daily income by finding treasures with their fantastic super-devices only????
I would like to see them running around and digin nothing than crap.
I'm asking myself:
Who has allowed those LRL-promoters here to spread their stories without any
facts and provable evidence?
I give you a good advice if you believe in fantasy stories how to find treasures:
You don't need to buy halfway (if not full) criminal devices from "LRL-experts" -
all you have to do is closing your eyes, ask the "universe" if you should go left or right,
next you listen to your inner feeling where you should stop and then you can dig!
Don't do this at high mountains or you could fall to death.
And don't do it on a street - cars may not see you as treasure.
My personal opinion:
When I'm analyzing the reactions against my intentions about clear and understandable
correct working methods there has to be criminal activity involved.
Be careful:
Carl Moreland and the Randy Test ist just a little warning.
This world is full of serious and high donated electronic-experts and if the law has to
contact them to investigate what kind of bad things are going on inside the LRL-scene
you will no longer post here your ridiculous fantasy-stories.
They will force you to either show the proof of what you're claiming or you go to jail!
And then we will find out how much not working devices you have sold over dozens of
years for how much money and much much more.
You think you are invincible hiding behind your "unexplainable" LRL-circuits, but you're not!
And of course you must use the internet to spread this crap because no serious reseller
would make himself dirty with such kind of nothing than trouble making stuff.
I give you a good tip:
If you are really such a sorrow person who loves and do this kind of work to make a living
go and promote your stuff somewhere else - this here is simply not the correct place!
Its a good tip from me because I have understanding for the problems of other persons
and sometimes even if they must act criminal. But not here!!!
We will or must destroy your "good" "deception work"! It simply can have no substance.
Either deliver something real proven working or look for victims who don't need truth at all,
because all what they need is to believe in what you say - you can give them a great life
by telling them how rich and successful they will became if they just buy your stuff.
Its like if a priest gives an ill-to-death person hope for a better life after death!
Do it, you can do a "very good" job, but don't destroy your whole work and reputation if you hit here the ground!
I wonder myself what is this for a cheap life that thrusts fully on believe and unprovable stuff?
You should go to India and became a Sadhu, smoke all kind of weed and dream your life away!
Of course all this used "you" in this context is just meant common to those who fully refuse to work on a
technical and economical acceptable basis. This is absolutly not just against hung and his "trustworthy" disciples -
its against all who wanna make people believe into "crap'"!
Shure, in a world full of TV movies, comics, cartoons, novels, dreams, liars, drugs and much more many people
may confuse virtuality with reality - but not here, please!
Give us a "radio" that really works or please listen to all your fantasy channels fully on your own!
Please don't harm innocent and only just the best in life wanting treasure-hunters
with your funny "surprise-signal" boxes!
We wanna give you real treasures but we can't, if your LRLs don't work!
______________________________________________
Almost forgotten, but just almost:
The biggest problem of this PDK stuff is the 2in1 circuit.
It makes the user "dream" of real detection even when the real detection has ended already since a long time!
If you are really wanna get results, use a PDK without included real working MD circuit! Please!
Just use a seperate Metal detector!
This is scientific method of analyzing - look at the single things, effects or results and not at the
completly merged and messed up together ones!
!! !! You can't see the stars if the sky is mixed up with bright sunshine !! !!
Please do me this favour if you are able at all to seperate this nothing than trouble making Alonso Circuit from the real working Heathkit stuff!
Do yourself this favour if you believe in this kind of not really working pseudo-detectors! Thank you!
Comment
-
where is your starting point, lrl workers?!
Hey LRL-fans - do you know the "Oxus Treasure" - you can see it in London,
its from Bactria - couldn't you have found it, too?
(btw. it was digged without any MDs at all around 1880 near Kuad.)
This is a treasure!
Hey LRL-detector-users:
Where is your starting point?
Where?
Where?
Where?
What are you doing inside the highly criminal treasure-hunting scene if you CAN'T provide
real working equipment?
Mining the miners?
WHAT DO YOU REALLY CAN?
!! Misunderstanding everything compared to how it really is? !!
Confusing how real technology works?
where is your starting point? where it is? tell me! can you? no!
do you have no starting point? how sad?
a life built up on illusions.......
Where is your LRL-technology starting point?!
Tell it, this is a very friendly suggestion . . . .Comment
-
Originally posted by Funfinder View Post@ Nicolas
I hope you sell good stuff so why do you laughing? Are you proud of your good work?
Are you laughing out loud the stupid persons who buy from you (notworking???) stuff
or do you sell real working detectors and everyone is happy with it - and this makes you happy?!
However - this still would be no proof about if its good what you're doing,
tricked esoteric believers also are full satisfied how fantatstic engergizing
their new quartz- and other mineral-stones are - especially if they put them
over night into a glass of water and drink this "super elixire" in the morning!
How serious is your work so that it's acceptable for the whole public who wants real working stuff?
And why are you worried. Laugh or cry
You said proposal. We work by
The people are happy. َAnd I m proud. So everything you say is the word of the controversy useless
I do not have time to waste with you in Takrifk. And you stay in the same vicious circle
I like and do not like to waste my time writing about the ring blank pages skeptics
Scurry was discovered and then go back later and give me your results
If you are completely convinced of futility if you waste your time, and I do not have time to waste with you
I advise you to read this book in order to benefit from wasting time
Ends here thanks
God bless all - Nicolas
<< My channel >> << My shop >>
Please do not demand Private Messages .... I cant reply all here....For more information you can send me email ....Thank you for understandingComment
-
NO SENSE
CRI CRI CRI CRI
ZZZZZZ....ZZZZ....ZZZZZZ
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT TIME IS?
THANKS
Originally posted by Funfinder View PostHey LRL-fans - do you know the "Oxus Treasure" - you can see it in London,
its from Bactria - couldn't you have found it, too?
(btw. it was digged without any MDs at all around 1880 near Kuad.)
This is a treasure!
Hey LRL-detector-users:
Where is your starting point?
Where?
Where?
Where?
What are you doing inside the highly criminal treasure-hunting scene if you CAN'T provide
real working equipment?
Mining the miners?
WHAT DO YOU REALLY CAN?
!! Misunderstanding everything compared to how it really is? !!
Confusing how real technology works?
where is your starting point? where it is? tell me! can you? no!
do you have no starting point? how sad?
a life built up on illusions.......
Where is your LRL-technology starting point?!
Tell it, this is a very friendly suggestion . . . .Comment
-
@ Nelson
Please learn first the difference of real working things versus "selfmotivating by believe".
The intentions of the betrayed betrayers may be good as hell but they still bring not the
smallest benefits to the world - they just manipulate and illusionate the mind with
notworking wish-dreams.
Experimentation will continue, what ever your comments are
Comment
Comment