Some consideration

[Nicolas]

Hi Nicolas.
You misunderstand something.....
The video that you saw from WM6 is not mine. Maybe it is from WM6.

Tanks Geo Yves I m wrong. This vidéo ils by WM6. I have mking mistake between jour name ans WM6

Thank y ou ans take care i m waiting for him to reply

[J_Player]

Hi J_Player,
I do not wanna waste my time with this diatribe that is not helpful for anyone.
Best Regards

Hi Franco,
At this point I am confused.
What diatribe are you talking about?
I made three points in my post:

Point 1.
It is not possible for anyone to duplicate your circuit because not enough information was provided.
This is not a theory or conjecture.
This is a fact that anyone can read in the forum when they read the posts from people who attempted to duplicate your circuit so far.
Not a single person who built this circuit reported the same response as you reported.
They used the same parts to build a circuit that does something different than the circuit that you built.
Their failure duplicate your circuit was not caused by any lack of ability.
They were unsuccessful because they did not have all of the critical information they needed to build a circuit that performs the same as yours does.
This information was helpful to me and probably several other readers who decided that they will not to attempt to attempt to duplicate your circuit until the missing information becomes available.
Are you sure this information is not helpful to anyone?

To illustrate what I am talking about, here are some examples of what the people posted when they described their attempts to duplicate your circuit:
"I believe that this schematic works very good at your area, but don't work at my field test.."
"My LRL detect my target, but i see last week with hamidity, a big problem with false signals sometimes from east or other address, sometimes for north".
"In my buried copper franko LRL work, but if i go for tresure hunting, i am confused, because i don't know the real signal"
"I think need more tests "
"what distance from target " --- "I think between 1 or 1.5 km "
"I think that King40 is wrong" -- "no im sure my target is biiiiiiig"
"the lrl Reacts to mobile phone radiation". http://www.uploadmb.com/dw.php?id=1397562234
"...I asked for a little help at all here on this forum for the construction of a lrl, since I'm not much good at electronics, but to my great regret, no one has seen and no one helped me, they all have made changes, they all mounted the rl franco italy but no one helped me step by step."
"... When I'm touching the antenna, The lrl does not show any reaction.Is this normal?"
"More sensitive L1 8 turn"
These are reports from people who attempted to build your circuit in the forum.
Is this what you are calling diatribe?



Point 2.
The great thing about your circuit is anyone can build it using a few parts, and they can quickly go into the field and experiment with it. It is even easier to build than the Totem, which has no guarantee of locating anything.
This is an opinion, which presupposes that anyone reading your posts is capable of buying parts and soldering them to a breadboard.
The basis of this opinion is in the number of forum posts from people saying "thank you" because they like to see complete circuit diagrams that they can build with only a few parts.
Is this what you are calling diatribe?



Point 3.
I am now a believer in the "Phenomenon", and your word is good enough for me. I will not take skeptics seriously.
This is a statement of my allegiance to belief in the "Phenomenon".
Is this what you are calling diatribe?

Please let me know which point is the diatribe so I can eliminate the diatribe.

Best wishes,
J_P

[WM6]

Hi J_P

If you are real believer, you don't need to ask anything, you just need to believe.

[Nicolas]

Hi J_P

If you are real believer, you don't need to ask anything, you just need to believe.

Hi J_Player,
I do not wanna waste my time with this diatribe that is not helpful for anyone.
Best Regards

Hi Franco,
At this point I am confused.
What diatribe are you talking about?


Is this what you are calling diatribe?

Please let me know which point is the diatribe so I can eliminate the diatribe.

Best wishes,
J_P

Asks a lot of will not understand nor be convinced .... spelling without controversy and was replaced by Vanity

[J_Player]

Hi J_P

If you are real believer, you don't need to ask anything, you just need to believe.

Hi WM6,
You are correct, I am a "Phenomenon" believer.
If you read my previous posts you will see I became a phenomenon believer for this thread.

Read my words since I became a believer:
"We are talking about the "Phenomenon".
And we all know from past experience that the "Phenomenon" is real, which means that what you sense/measure is also real.
We have detected beeps near buried metal... this is our proof...!"

"If you say "Phenomenon" exists, then that's good enough for me. I have no need to prove it with an oscillator. There are skeptics who try to tell me other ideas why your oscillator shows signals, but I don't take them seriously..."

It is as you say... I don't need to ask anything.
I don't need to ask because I can see the proof of the leds lighting up and beeps made by LRLs that show the "Phenomenon" is real.
And of course, I will continue to believe the "Phenomenon", but only in this thread, and only until someone can make a post in this thread to prove I am wrong to believe in the "Phenomenon", (as I previously stated).

You are not planning to make a post to prove I am wrong to believe in the phenomenon, are you?

Best Wishes,
J_P

[FrancoItaly]

Hi All,
The purpose of my thread "LRL from Italy" was to raise awareness and to allow others to build my LRL. Unfortunately I do my pcb in hand with marker and often do not have a decent picture to post, but here "http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18933&page=9" (number 213) I posted pcb and arrangement of the components. This pcb certainly works. Certainly it is a project that works to 8MHz and even a few picofarads can affect. I want to give some advice, when assembled, check that without the quartz output is 0V, otherwise you need to decrease the amplification using R10 and / or R12 for instance by lowering from 1000ohms to 820ohms. With the quartz must have at output 2 to 6V, if we have a lower voltage must increase the total value of C1, C2 and C4, if we have a higher voltage must decrease the total value of the capacitors. Try to remove them all because sometimes it is enough, the parasitic capacitance of the PCB. As a final check by touching the antenna signal decreases slightly (about 100mV, not critical), while the phenomenon increases the signal. With this I have said everything I could to help in the building, but I can always answer questions, as I did privately with many of you.

Regards

[FrancoItaly]

Hi All,
I'm sorry I made a mistake, to decrease the amplification necessary to increase from 1000 ohms to 1200 ohms or decrease the capacitors in parallel.
Regards

[WM6]

You are not planning to make a post to prove I am wrong to believe in the phenomenon, are you?

Best Wishes,
J_P

No, I believe you every single post. I believe that your beliefs are remote deep in phenomenon.

[brs]

the quartz out 5.75v
R10 and R12 =1K
But When you lift the device to the highest illuminate the space led three

[Geo]

Hi All,
The purpose of my thread "LRL from Italy" was to raise awareness and to allow others to build my LRL. Unfortunately I do my pcb in hand with marker and often do not have a decent picture to post, but here "http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18933&page=9" (number 213) I posted pcb and arrangement of the components. This pcb certainly works. Certainly it is a project that works to 8MHz and even a few picofarads can affect. I want to give some advice, when assembled, check that without the quartz output is 0V, otherwise you need to decrease the amplification using R10 and / or R12 for instance by lowering from 1000ohms to 820ohms. With the quartz must have at output 2 to 6V, if we have a lower voltage must increase the total value of C1, C2 and C4, if we have a higher voltage must decrease the total value of the capacitors. Try to remove them all because sometimes it is enough, the parasitic capacitance of the PCB. As a final check by touching the antenna signal decreases slightly (about 100mV, not critical), while the phenomenon increases the signal. With this I have said everything I could to help in the building, but I can always answer questions, as I did privately with many of you.

Regards

Hi Franco.
Another way to reduce the dc out (with xtal disconnected) is to replace the capacitors C13 and C14 with bigger....(1.5n is ok...)


Regards

[FrancoItaly]

Hi Geo,
If You increase the value of C13 and C14 increases the gain of the stage and therefore the DC output.

Regards

[Geo]

Hi Franco.
Yes, you have right but my lrl had self-oscillations (and high output) and when i replaced the capacitors with bigger the oscillations stoped.

Regards

[omar]

Hello, I would like to archive some information on this topic, according to my experience. The phenomenon is a pulsating beam of free electrons that, when they move, have a weak magnetic effect (EMF), similar to a radio signal with very small amplitudes, such as a microwave signal. This beam needs a physical medium to travel, or a vacuum, because at the end it is an electric current that weakens and fades away. In the open air, it travels through soil and rocks according to conductivity, and its concentration is greatest possible near the surface of the Earth. Since the beam is electrons, it is an extremely small particle. It has a negative polarity and a polarization direction that is affected by the surrounding electric and magnetic fields. These electrons become more active in the warm atmosphere and gain higher kinetic energy. On the contrary, its kinetic energy and activity weaken in cold weather. Note that this beam carries images of the objects it emits, and the problem lies in the weakness of the signal and its interference with the various terrestrial signals, each of which has its own frequency, or what is called echo, and the noise of the terrestrial magnetic fields. There appears to be some similarity between the electron beam and infrared rays due to the thermal effect, which made the matter confusing to others. Note that infrared rays are the best for detecting and tracking in transparent media with less background noise, so they have the ability to detect the electron beam in the Earth?s field if the electrons are at the required density. How is the frequency of electrons measured? What is the difference between radio frequencies, magnetic frequencies, and electron frequencies? It seems that science has not established a clear answer or definition for this simple question.

[Mike(Mont)]

Hello Omar, nice to see someone is interested here. Not sure I agree with all you posted but I'm recovering from a moderate case of covid. Starting to feel better today. Here is a link I think explains this. http://amasci.com/tesla/tmistk.html

[omar]

Thank you, my friend Mike, and I wish you a speedy recovery. I will put everything I know about this phenomenon, as it is more logical than other theories. I have read the link page. Thank you, Mike. I think what I understood is that using a dipole coil is better than a regular mono antenna, and this is logical. The signal we are dealing with, according to observations, is an electrical signal with a small wavelength at a low frequency in the Earth?s field, which is the nuclear magnetic resonance frequency of the material, very similar to the modified microwave frequencies. Both signals are microwaves and have a very small amplitude. I previously watched AM radio modified to detect gold. I do not know the usefulness of this device. I opened the radio. There was nothing important. The device was set to an empty channel. The antenna wire was cut and a piece of gold was placed with a coil on it and placed as a connector for the cut wire. I told the owner of this device that he was crazy, and he replied that the pieces of gold would interact with the burial field and send a small signal that would be picked up by the coil and appear as an audible signal on the speaker. I did not care about what he said at that time until I saw real pictures of the buried target based only on the signal sent by the burial. It is a strange and strange thing that everything around us seems to be radioactive, contrary to what they taught us in schools.