Frequency discriminator and all-electronic receiver

[Qiaozhi]

That was a joke if you didn't get it. Skeptics are made just like L-rod users. It's just a Hell of a lot easier to become a skeptic.

As for L-rods, I can see why Dell Winders went with them. You can get more info and get it faster. But all that is under the huge assumption that you can use them in an unbiased manner. In other words you have to be part Saint so as not to influence them. Of course that's why my mantra that you need SOME form of meditation, even something basic like yoga breathing. This is the main reason people fail--they can't just stay out of it. Enough on that issue.

So I am toying with the idea of a hybrid system. First you use the electronic receiver to find the discriminated signal line, THEN you use the L-rods to pinpoint the target along that line. It's a lot more reassuring than trying to find the line with the rods. And it's a lot faster to use the rods instead of having to move the transmitter to a new location, but that can still be done for those who have the L-rodphobia and skepticitis. Well, enough of my rambling--back "Through the looking glass".

Of course you could just continue to use the time-honoured methods of self-delusion, wishful thinking and selective memory.

[Mike(Mont)]

I have a few hours on the L-rod.

[Mike(Mont)]

I was watching the battery voltage on the receiver and when the battery got low the voltage (under load) dropped way down. Tried two different regulated power systems to maintain a steady voltage on the receiver but they both cause too much noise. So i just decided to go with a bigger battery. I call it cheap overkill.

[WM6]

Tried two different regulated power systems to maintain a steady voltage on the receiver but they both cause too much noise.

Did you tried to block such noise by adding block capacitor between regulator output and ground? Try different values between 22 and 100nF.

[Mike(Mont)]

Did you tried to block such noise by adding block capacitor between regulator output and ground? Try different values between 22 and 100nF.

WM6, thanks for your help. There are electrolytic capacitors that come off the hot lead to ground. They are bigger yet. I'm not very versed in electronics. If I get motivated I will read up on it. I think it says they run at 150kHz so I suspect the receiver is "receiving" that as a signal. The signal strength meter is at about 20%. Even so the receiver still detects a target signal but that has to have a bad effect overall. Well, it's okay, I know the battery works and the new one is still lightweight enough, about twice the capacity. Now i don't have to worry about it.

How goes your new device? I haven't started anything on that one yet. I do like some of your ideas and plan to work with them when I get over my obsession with this project.

[WM6]

How goes your new device? I haven't started anything on that one yet. I do like some of your ideas and plan to work with them when I get over my obsession with this project.

At the moment I am on other project agreed earlier with my friend.

Regarding mentioned anti-phase project, I decided to froze it and jump direct to some test and experiment with scalar waves. According some scientific papers main problem could be on receiver site, where as enough sensitive sensor appear to be so called "Josephson junction" which use superconductor in cryogenic environment - something hard to establish in amateur hobby conditions. So we need to find something as usable replacement for "Josephson junction" sensor. So a lot of test and experiments in near future.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephson_effect

Excerpt from: The Interconnected Universe: Conceptual Foundations of Transdisciplinary Unified Theory [Ervin Laszlo]

[Mike(Mont)]

Dr. Konstantin Meyl has been doing research on scalar wave biological effects on cells and DNA.

https://www.meyl.eu/

[WM6]

Yes, Josephson junction in receiver is a mens (some sort of gateway) to convert scalar and vector potential back to electromagnetic radiation and signalizing it (by analog or digital measurement or by audio signal). But we need to overcome this complicated component cause it is unrealizable in amateur conditions. A lot of experiments and tests differents already existent ideas and solutions.

[Mike(Mont)]

I don't claim to understand it all, but today I was getting a weak response that wouldn't lock on so as a last resort I switched to a frequency I had shelved and BAM! I was hitting the test target. Yeah, even an old dog can learn new tricks.

[Mike(Mont)]

Yeah, it really did happen I thought I was wrong but i wasn't. Problem is it took me about three weeks to figure that one out. If you quit learning you stagnate. I know plenty about that one, too. Sometimes just trying too hard is the wrong approach. I'm usually not too guilty on that count. But when i do I am good at it. I keep saying someday I will quit working on this and call it finished...or else I'll go crazy, whichever comes first. They say men are bad at making commitments. I never thought of myself that way but I guess I am making up for lost time. It's like I find myself making excuses for continuing to work on it. Some day I will get tired with it all. Hope it is soon. I just need to get out and make some finds. It's going to happen. I found some gold with the same type transmitter with an L-rod so I know it works. Actually what I have now is better.

[WM6]

Actually what I have now is better.

Good outcome. Don't change anything.

[Mike(Mont)]

I have been using a lower frequency for gold and it seems to lock on faster but on another thread I said it was almost instantaneous and lately this has not been the case. The other day it was about two minutes and today even longer, so maybe the cold weather is causing the longer times. I didn't time it but it had to be nearly five minutes this morning with temperature just above freezing. Anyway, I plan to work with this one for a few days to see how it holds up. So far i like it. Also I have been using the receiver antenna from two angles, 90 degrees, so i get nulling one way and the alarm tone from the other. They both point the same direction even if it is not on the correct line to the target. After a while I can tell when the nulling is on the target as it gets sharper edges to it.

[Mike(Mont)]

This is for a fresh dropped target. It occurred to me a long time buried target might give a quicker lock-on time.

[Mike(Mont)]

I can certainly understand why many of the LRL skeptics went crazy. A perfectionist has no place in the LRL field. You just have to accept that some things are out of your control. Like this morning I was getting lock-on times approaching five minutes. I went back out and just minutes ago I was getting nearly instantaneous lock-on times again--several in a row, not just some fluke. I was taught that the solar magnetic interference disrupts the signal line. Dell Winders said his best guess was protons. I just have to come to the reality that I can't be sure what causes it. Or like the billboard sign "My reality check bounced."

[Mike(Mont)]

Here's a link that might bring you some sanity regarding interference.

https://www.hard-core-dx.com/solar/solar.html