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[WM6]

The magnetic field that develops around the target acts like a loudspeaker but this is not instantaneous.

In reactive near field region - mean in region of conventional metal detector, where magnetic induction happen.

If you need known comparison it works like transformer (so: TX coil as transformer primary windings, eddy current induced in target as secondary windings and RX coil as second secondary windings which sense targets eddy current load). In reactive near field region is is all about magnetic induction. All magnetic induction phenomenon can be presented as transformer equivalent.

But GG work is not based on magnetic induction, it is based on radio wave transmission - something different.

[Mike(Mont)]

Yeah, you are f'ing clueless.

[Mike(Mont)]

They say you can tell when a lawyer is lying--whenever his lips are moving. I heard the other day 70% of everything that people post on the internet is false. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with B.S. No, this isn't a joke.

[Carl-NC]

Yeah, you are f'ing clueless.

Mike, what if WM6 is completely right?

[Mike(Mont)]

First off, I don't believe anyone's identity on the forums. I've said this before I think about half the posters are just one or two skeptics and all their alias identities. Whatever the case, he would be contradicting himself. First he says no LRL can possibly work then he says the Gold Gun works after I mention it. Then on another thread he praises some frequency generator on a swivel handle--well, that's got to be sarcasm. The skeptic way is such a waste of a good mind. Something really bothers me about skeptics. I really want to help them, but I know some things are near to impossible. So I have to ask the question "Why are they here?" It's not for the good of mankind. It's gotta be some personal motive and we all have heard "follow the money". Most people are here because they love LRL's. The root of the word amateur, amo amare, means to love. As fora skeptic being right when they claim no LRL can possibly work, well all I can say is B.S.

[FrancoItaly]

I agree with Mike, this forum is open to all and rightly so, but I feel wrong and unjust that a member would arrogate to himself the right to judge what is true and what is false, confusing those who approach the forum for the first time and calling liars or, at best, dreamers other forum members. Certainly there are also economic interests in the LRLs world, people who use the forum as a showcase, but I hope that the members of this forum are able to judge well.

[WM6]

First he says no LRL can possibly work then he says the Gold Gun works after I mention it.

You should read more carefully. There was no "after I mention it". You can read different old thread here, where I, not only once, long ago, promote Gold Gun possibilities to detect at some longer distance than metal detectors and propose members to build it. Certainly GG cannot detect something at kilometers nor even couple of 10 meters. Properly build, tuned and used, GG can work as simplified (known and patented long ago) pipe locater (pretty deep on bigger target). If such locater is for someone LRL, then it is LRL. I left this clasification to others. In comparison to mineoros, rangertell etc. crap, GG is real LRL, cause all those commercial creations are all anti-LRL.

Reading members questions and their private massages asking about different electronic module solution I only trying to help with simple electronic design, to answer such question and to give members some ideas to play with electronic. I never argued such proposal as working LRL (maybe sometimes when we are joking - to not be to serious through life).

but I feel wrong and unjust that a member would arrogate to himself the right to judge what is true and what is false,

Franco, I feel wrong too, when someone of LRL believers take to himself right to judge what is true and what is false, without proper argumentation and refusing to accept simple technical explanation.

To be believer, does not mean that: faith=right.

If someone is blind believer, those are blind for possible way to real LRL too. So be real and cooperate with everyone willingly to cooperate, no matter skeptic or believer.

[Mike(Mont)]

Like I said , take away the B.S. and there ain't nothing left...

[WM6]

Like I said , take away the B.S. and there ain't nothing left...

I am sorry, if you feel so with your projects.

Anyway, don't lost hope, maybe someday you got insight instead of constant out-sight.

[FrancoItaly]

Hi WM6,

The situation is this: I and other members have built LRL and affirm that work, You've built no LRL and claims that can not work and then we fail or are dreamers. Now I ask you, there are things that science still does not know or can not explain?

Best regards

[Geo]

Hi WM6,

The situation is this: I and other members have built LRL and affirm that work, You've built no LRL and claims that can not work and then we fail or are dreamers. Now I ask you, there are things that science still does not know or can not explain?

Best regards

Calm.........

[Mike(Mont)]

Like I said, at least for the frequency discriminators the magnetic field surrounding the target acts like a loudspeaker. In effect it is a larger antenna due to the pulsing field. This is not strictly reflection and the target has to be excited before this happens, and this is a slow build-up. Of course there is a lot more to this energy pulse and the information it carries.

[UltraLRL]

Like I said, at least for the frequency discriminators the magnetic field surrounding the target acts like a loudspeaker. .

The magnetic field surrounding target acts like a loudspeaker??

Mike,Could you explain more?? I'm really confused!

[Mike(Mont)]

Sorry, I am not an electronics engineer. My guess it is a little bit similar to the energy-sucking antenna of Tesla. I know the article is just theory and pipe dreaming, but what you see is a small "antenna" can act big. The magnetic field is bigger than the object.

https://www.amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html

[UltraLRL]

www.amasci.com/tesla/tesceive.html

topic is about 'Energy-sucking' Radio Antennas.


But Resonant absorber ONLY absorb certain frequency.

for LRLs, the frequency of Buried metal (Like Gold,Silver,...) depend on many factors Like:
Size
Shape
Alloy Composition
Depth
Terrain (Soil Type)
Humidity
Earth magnetic field strength
.
.
.
and so on.

Gold Alloy Composition:



So the EXACT resonant frequency variation is TOO MUCH! and if use a fixed frequency (like 5Khz For Gold) it cause diversion (Reflection)!

How do you want to determine the exact resonance frequency??