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[Morgan]

Hung

well,well,it was told to me that a second hide oscillator(transmitter)was found by the Hugo TH team in another place where Mr.Alonso take people for MINEORO field demonstrations.
It was told by Alonso to his clients that in this place is a buried treasure,so people decide to investigate and found another transmitter that make the Mineoros to beep .
Another trick for marketing...

Hello Hung !

What you want to say about that Mineoro tricks ?!!

Same happens in Garopaba,isnt it ?

[robalocarapanda]

the first oscillator find in mexico

hello, sorry for the delay here I sent the diagram of the first oscillator was found. Alonzo told us that we did not use PI teams that erased the ionization or the signal and that equipment and did not find but, the second reason was because he did not want oscillators we found buried around the marks previously buried.

best regards

[J_Player]

yes,thats it.

I wondering what Alonso or Patricia was using in the french forest FG90 demonstrations.
However the same trick seems not work very well in Greece FG90 field test...

This importer of Mineoro from France will be happy to read the Long Range Locator forum... right?




Best wishes,
J_P

[robalocarapanda]

If you had a look mineoro demonstration near where they found the gold pieces, could find an oscilla

if you know the distributor in France of mineoros can tell him to look around where you found the earring, Alonzo, or some friend Patricia have led them to that place and they buried some oscillator about the gold piece, which seek to any VLF or PI will be certainly not deep

best regards

[J_Player]

if you know the distributor in France of mineoros can tell him to look around where you found the earring, Alonzo, or some friend Patricia have led them to that place and they buried some oscillator about the gold piece, which seek to any VLF or PI will be certainly not deep

best regards

I think no...
I watched the videos... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpIhf3tO27I

I think Alonso was carrying the transmitter in his hand and was pushing the button to make beeps with his thumb.
You can see him holding his left hand closed to hide the transmitter that he was holding at the time the FG90 was beeping (see 00:30).
I think he made it beep by pushing the switch on the transmitter.
When he came close to the treasure, he was worried that the others might see his transmitter, so he put the transmitter in his camera case (see 00:44).
This transmitter was the same as the transmitter you found, except it had no 555 to make periodic beeps.
Instead, he put a switch that he could push with his thumb.

You can see that when Alonso makes his field demonstrations, he always carries his camera bag.
But why does Alonso carry his camera bag?
His camera bag is cumbersome, and it is always getting in the way.
Why didn't he leave the camera bag back in the car if he was not going to use it?
Alonso had no need to carry his camera bag, other than to hide the transmitter when people come close to where he is walking, and might see him holding the transmitter in his hand.

When Alonso came close to the treasure, he needed to take the transmitter out of his hand, because the other people were coming close to him, and they might see it in his hand.
This is the reason why he put the transmitter in his camera bag at 00:44.

Now watch at 00:50 to 01:33...
You can see that Alonso's hand is pressing on his camera bag every time when the FG90 is beeping.
It appears he is continuing to press the transmitter button through the camera case.
After 01:33, Alonso takes his hand off the camera bag.
What happened?
Did Alonso become convinced that the FG90 was close enough to the treasure to make beeps without the transmitter?

You can see the treasure they found at 11:55 is not an old treasure like all the treasure from ancient times that was found in this region.
It is modern jewelry which you can buy in the jewelry store in Brazil, or France.

I would guess that Alonso takes several transmitters with him when he goes to demonstrate LRLs working.
I think he has a small one to fit in his hand, and another hidden in his camera bag, which he can use to make beeps by pushing on the bag with his fingers at the place where the transmitter switch is.
I think he also gives a transmitter to Patricia, or the other factory workers who help him.
But who cares what I think?
LRL enthusiasts are best to ignore what I think, and buy their LRLs as they believe.


Best Wishes,
J_P

[robalocarapanda]

see the 5:58 when the case is open

no, I do not bring anything in the black box if you notice, at minutes: 5:58 French picks up the case and this is open and turns turtle in the air, and I personally inspected the case and the camera operates as camera, he likes to take pictures of the ruins of doors, old bridges etc, I think in the chamber or in case there is nothing, or their clothes and that I wanted in his jacket mesclilla, and even their bosas of pants, and being followed as it behaves on their clothes and brings nothing, when we returned to search the field, he sits for a moment before eating and bathing, with the pretext of going to the lavatory, I got into his revice room and his clothes and there was nothing, I think they help with another, and planted the device one day before, and this as you see in the photos is a little big and I think this device should be about 30 or 50 cm piece of gold for the gold piece that functions as the antenna of the center and deep and have the mineoro of the bep.
if the oscillator is not to near the gold piece the trick no good

best regards

[robalocarapanda]

or may be the france distributor agrees to Chacho as well as in mexico felipe agree. and set the stage that if it was in the briefcase and if I was not let go alonzo or not to let anyone manipulate

[hung]

Hello Hung !

What you want to say about that Mineoro tricks ?!!

Same happens in Garopaba,isnt it ?

About a couple years ago, I and a friend found out that by employing a 2box transmitter tuned in a particular frequency, and also specially angled and placed close to a small target, we could 'excite' the ionic emanation from a small target up to the point of PDCs and FGs easily detecting the item. In this instance a gold medal was found.
Prior to the TX use, the signal was unstable and the PDC would only pick it in sparse beeps very close. When the TX was used, the target beeps turned constant and detectable at 4-5 times the distance.

I believe the oscillator Alonso buried close to the target was for this purpose.

Rgds.

[robalocarapanda]

yes I think it is also possible when the phenomenon, we can recover if we put an iron grill 80cm x 100cm placing it and lifting it 5 or 6 occasions and the phenomenon returns

best regards

[J_Player]

no, I do not bring anything in the black box if you notice, at minutes: 5:58 French picks up the case and this is open and turns turtle in the air, and I personally inspected the case and the camera operates as camera, he likes to take pictures of the ruins of doors, old bridges etc, I think in the chamber or in case there is nothing, or their clothes and that I wanted in his jacket mesclilla, and even their bosas of pants, and being followed as it behaves on their clothes and brings nothing, when we returned to search the field, he sits for a moment before eating and bathing, with the pretext of going to the lavatory, I got into his revice room and his clothes and there was nothing, I think they help with another, and planted the device one day before, and this as you see in the photos is a little big and I think this device should be about 30 or 50 cm piece of gold for the gold piece that functions as the antenna of the center and deep and have the mineoro of the bep.
if the oscillator is not to near the gold piece the trick no good

best regards

At 05:58, they are at close range to the treasure.
At this time, there is no longer any need to use transmitter to make beeping.
The buried gold at 50cm distance will make beeps.

I believe Alonso will remove the transmitters from his case when he does not have the case with him.
This is the reason why you do not find any transmitters in his case.
The transmitter that you found in Mexico is designed to make beeps that you can detect from long distance.
But the transmitter that Alonso holds in his hand does not need a ferrite for long distance, because the distance from his hand to the FG90 is less than 1 meter.
Alonso can use a tiny transmitter to fit in his hand which nobody can see.
If Alonso wants to cause beeps at a distance of 1-2 meters, it is very easy to make a transmitter which is 1/4 of the size as the transmitter that you found.
I believe that also, his helpers... Patricia, Chaco, and others from the factory can have transmitters to make beeps from longer range than 1 meter.
The Mineoro locators can also be made to beep with a garage door opener transmitter. See here: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/ge...questions.html

You can send PM to Morgan... he will tell you the story of his friend in France who was with Alonso during the video...
and after Alonso went home, the FG90 no longer can find treasure..!

But maybe what I think is wrong...
Maybe it is time to buy Mineoro LRL...


Best wishes,
J_P

[robalocarapanda]

well well, not to bother you but two things first that alonzo to cheating and cheat if it is, but I also met some coins and another gold pieces with FG80 and without alonzo with me.
and may be alonzo have hidden mini oscillators, alonzo or patricia, have many years perfecting the tricks to convince buyers that the teams work well.

best regards

[mosha]

?

Hi J_P

Why you think it is time to buy Mineoro LRL.

Best regards,

But maybe what I think is wrong...
Maybe it is time to buy Mineoro LRL...


Best wishes,
J_P

[Dave J.]

About a couple years ago, I and a friend found out that by employing a 2box transmitter tuned in a particular frequency, and also specially angled and placed close to a small target, we could 'excite' the ionic emanation from a small target up to the point of PDCs and FGs easily detecting the item. In this instance a gold medal was found.
Prior to the TX use, the signal was unstable and the PDC would only pick it in sparse beeps very close. When the TX was used, the target beeps turned constant and detectable at 4-5 times the distance.

I believe the oscillator Alonso buried close to the target was for this purpose.

Rgds.

And, what a coincidence, Mineoro does 2-box units! Check the frequency and then look at the schematic that was posted above. What a coincidence! What was planted is known in the industry as a "sonde". We (Fisher) just happen to know a thing or two about such matters, being the oldest company in the business.

Of course what Mineoro was up to had nothing to do with "exciting ionic emanations" (that's pseudoscience malarkey for the gullibillies) and has everything to do with the fraud to which Hung himself has just admitted to knowing about!

Besides which the Mineoro website itself contradicts the notion that you can plant a target and then recover it, it even contradicts the notion that anything that happens with targets is detectable! Mineoro knows exactly what kind of business LRL's are, and the business is fraud.

We all know the same thing about LRL's, debunkers and merchandisers alike, that the things are frauds. The only disagreement is over what should be said and done about it.

Hung, what should be said and done about LRL fraud, is there anything you'd like to clarify that hasn't been covered by the factory already?

--Dave J.

[Dave J.]

A prediction about Mineoro

Hung, I'll make a prediction about Mineoro.

They are a strangely bifurcated business-- the fraudulent LRL stuff, and the real electronic locating apparatus. Their fraudulent non-swivelling LRL stuff is the worst in the LRL industry, lacking even a swivel to fool yourself with (hence the fakery with hidden transmitters to which you have actually confessed!); and some of their real electronic locating apparatus looks like it might be pretty darn good although I haven't gotten my hands on it myself to know for sure.

The Internet is really rough on the LRL business. You saw what it did to Chuckie, he advertised that nobody could hide from H3tec and in the end he was the one who tried to hide from it. He couldn't hide, the monster he created caught up with him and ruined him.

Hung, you're next, and here's why.

* * * * * * * *

Mineoro has become a good sized "real company". They're at a crossroads, they're going to have to choose whether they're in the LRL business or the real detection apparatus business. They won't be able to do both. The LRL business is doomed because the Internet is such a great venue for exposing fraud, and thanks in part to that same Internet the real detection apparatus can be as successful as they like depending on how good their engineering and marketing is. They've got this figured out now, that's why they're talking to Minelab. The handwriting is on the wall: they're gonna have to dump their LRL business because it discredits their real business and because having to deal with the problems of the LRL business sucks energy out of their real business.

Please feel free to give 'em my contact information, maybe there's some avenue in which Mineoro and FTP-Fisher could collaborate. There's stuff they've got that we'd probably like to have, and there's stuff we've got that they'd probably like to have. Obviously LRL's are not a part of this picture, they're an obstacle to it. It's unthinkable that Minelab wouldn't have already told them that, if Mineoro weren't bright enough to have it already figured out. But they are bright enough to have it already figured out. They're gonna dump the LRL business.

LRL's will still be around, but they won't have the Mineoro trademark on them.

* * * * * * * * * *

That's my prediction for Mineoro. But I could be wrong. So, Hung, you know these people personally, what do you predict about Mineoro's future?

--Dave J.

[Qiaozhi]

About a couple years ago, I and a friend found out that by employing a 2box transmitter tuned in a particular frequency, and also specially angled and placed close to a small target, we could 'excite' the ionic emanation from a small target up to the point of PDCs and FGs easily detecting the item. In this instance a gold medal was found.
Prior to the TX use, the signal was unstable and the PDC would only pick it in sparse beeps very close. When the TX was used, the target beeps turned constant and detectable at 4-5 times the distance.

I believe the oscillator Alonso buried close to the target was for this purpose.

Rgds.

This would be one possible explanation ... except, Alonso allegedly ran off with the gold treasure, leaving nothing behind to be 'excited'.