Mineoro website

[J_Player]

Hi J_P.

Many times you post here comments from people that had a Mineoro and they found Nothing.
So i said to put in this list and the comments of Hugo (and now from Morgan) that they found some small objects under good weather conditions.
That is all what i wanted to say.
So big problem for nothing........

Regards

The big problem is you posted words to say something very different than what you wanted to say.
And people should not believe the wrong meaning you posted because it is not true.

Do you mean I should include the story of short-range locating from Morgan and robalocarapanda when I show what people say about their experience with Mineoro?
Maybe I should do that.

Do you think I should also include the story of Alonso stealing gold from robalocarapanda, and the story of Alonso putting a transmitter to make the Mineoro FG80 make beeps?
I would not want to make my list of Mineoro experiences one-sided, so maybe we should tell the complete story.
Don't you think so?

Here are some links where people tell what is their experience with Mineoro:
mosha: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...5337#post45337
vconic: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...6044#post46044
Alexismex: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...1017#post41017
resamery: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?p=48062#post48062
michael: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...7738#post47738
neronc: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...0315#post50315
Seeker: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...0318#post50318
Morris_jo: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...3459#post53459
Geo: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...589#post125589
hawk17966: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...6622#post46622
Alexismex: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...7559#post47559
Carl-NC: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...7488#post47488
vcrb: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...7501#post47501
connie: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...6087#post96087
Morgan: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...935#post127935

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=128523#post128523

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=128080#post128080

bugwhiskers: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...0207#post60207
neronc: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...8814#post48814
gibon: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...069#post128069
Agraz: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...685#post128685
hawk17966: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...6547#post46547
michael: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...7738#post47738

I could add the story of Morgan and robalocarapanda finding short-range detection at the end.
But where should I put the story of Alonso stealing robalocarapanda's gold?
Were should I put the story of Alonso hiding a transmitter to make the LRLs make beeps?
Are we better to include these links or not?


Best Wishes,
J_P

[J_Player]

I believe the MINEORO can locate a treasure,but it must be a large treasure,and the weather conditions etc,must be special.For any kind of small object this mineoro LRL is problematic,even my PDK´s are not so good as i think,it experience diferent behavior out from Portugal and Greece,well,i´m honest about that,anyway i´m building one VHF to solve the problem.
Hugo is using one PDK-2 in Mexico,said is a bit erratic,but i tried here before sent to him,and it was very stable. The good new,he get some clear signal in old house but cant get signal with conventional metal locator...maybe very deep target ?
The PDK-2 also gave beeps in the cactus transmitter,but it was the false target...

The Alonso use hide transmitters for potential clients.Is one easy way to make them believe this LRL is working good,and they buy the LRL...10000 E ;-)

Robalocarapanda (Hugo) sent me email where is possible to understand Mr.Alonso said sorry for the hide transmitters and is asking forgive to the mexican team.
Also he said will compensate them with a special LRL the CENTURION ,so everything is clear to me,no doubt,Alonso was playing the bad boy...

Hi Morgan,
What is CENTURION?
Have you seen this locator?
It will be interesting to see what is Centurion, and what it can do.


Best Wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

The big problem is you posted words to say something very different than what you wanted to say.
And people should not believe the wrong meaning you posted because it is not true.

Do you mean I should include the story of short-range locating from Morgan and robalocarapanda when I show what people say about their experience with Mineoro?
Maybe I should do that.

Do you think I should also include the story of Alonso stealing gold from robalocarapanda, and the story of Alonso putting a transmitter to make the Mineoro FG80 make beeps?
I would not want to make my list of Mineoro experiences one-sided, so maybe we should tell the complete story.
Don't you think so?

Here are some links where people tell what is their experience with Mineoro:
mosha: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...5337#post45337
vconic: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...6044#post46044
Alexismex: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...1017#post41017
resamery: http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showthread.php?p=48062#post48062
michael: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...7738#post47738
neronc: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...0315#post50315
Seeker: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...0318#post50318
Morris_jo: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...3459#post53459
Geo: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...589#post125589
hawk17966: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...6622#post46622
Alexismex: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...7559#post47559
Carl-NC: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...7488#post47488
vcrb: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...7501#post47501
connie: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...6087#post96087
Morgan: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...935#post127935

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=128523#post128523

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?p=128080#post128080

bugwhiskers: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...0207#post60207
neronc: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...8814#post48814
gibon: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...069#post128069
Agraz: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...685#post128685
hawk17966: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...6547#post46547
michael: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...7738#post47738

I could add the story of Morgan and robalocarapanda finding short-range detection at the end.
But where should I put the story of Alonso stealing robalocarapanda's gold?
Were should I put the story of Alonso hiding a transmitter to make the LRLs make beeps?
Are we better to include these links or not?


Best Wishes,
J_P

You are the list constructor, so you know where to put the story of Alonso....
For me the best is the true, so you must include everything true at your list!!!!!

Regards

[Morgan]

CENTURION LRL

Hi Morgan,
What is CENTURION?
Have you seen this locator?
It will be interesting to see what is Centurion, and what it can do.


Best Wishes,
J_P

The CENTURION LRL is some new LRL by Alonso,i think not finish yet.
Better Hugo explain us about this...

Maybe secret ?

[robalocarapanda]

centurion 21

the centurion 21 is made for another company in usa or in uruguay the store is detector house.com
and alonzo explain me this lrl is a good transmiter but have a deficiency receiver and may be he can made some modification to make more efficient lrl, make a mixture between fg80-centurion 21

best regards

[robalocarapanda]

images in the google search I found this with chacho in Mexico, that bracelet now found her in 2012 and that bracelet used it to convince a client where there was found the second oscillator, and not to think felipe chacho and not know how to lie or do very well this information come in the face book of mineoro.
if you look are in the same places in mexico with cactus and the same vegetation is 60 mts from the first oscillator

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=329762280446032&set=a.216078811814380.55533.216042025151392&type=1&theater

[robalocarapanda]

the information in face says the bracelet find in mexico in 2010 please open the face book of mineoro and the small bar of golden is true mi friend that appear in the first video fraud of mineoro , find with the tesla. but the the bracelet is lie

regards

[J_Player]

the information in face says the bracelet find in mexico in 2010 please open the face book of mineoro and the small bar of golden is true mi friend that appear in the first video fraud of mineoro , find with the tesla. but the the bracelet is lie

regards

Hi robalocarapanda,
This is most interesting.
I went to facebook and saw the fake photo where Mineoro Indústria Eletrônica LTDA says Mr. Alonso finds 11g gold bracelet in Mexico, in 2010, in a dry river course.
Then I clicked to see the next photo, which brought me here: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...e=1&permPage=1

On this page, Mineoro Indústria Eletrônica LTDA says this: "Mr. Jim Mitchell, American citizen, from Dallas, Texas 2nd. World War veteran, found 10 silver coins with MINEORO first Long Range Detector DCH85, in 1985".
This is another fake photo which was shown to be fake after Esteban posted it here in the longrangelocator forum in 2006!

You can read the entire thread where the fake Mineoro photo of Jim Mitchell was discovered here: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...ad.php?t=12097
This is long reading, but you will see at the top where Esteban posted these same photos of Jim Mitchell holding the Mineoro LRL in one hand and silver dollars in the other hand.

As we learn farther down in the thread, Jim Mitchell's photo holding those coins was also published in "Lost Treasure Magazine Oct 1989" where he is holding an Electroscope LRL in the other hand.
(see here): http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...0&postcount=36


JIM MITCHELL SHOWS US THE SAME COINS
BUT NOW HE SAYS HE FOUND THE COINS USING ELECTROSCOPE!
Here is a reprint of the "Lost Treasure Magazine Oct 1989" article that is found on Electroscope's web page: http://www.electroscopes.com/members/finds_2.asp

Farther down in that thread, we read Carl-NC's post where he suggests that Jim Mitchell was paid by both LRL companies to make these fake photos:
Carl-NC: "Well, that involves the additional info I have, which suggests that no LRL was involved at all in finding the coins, and that Mr. Mitchell was paid by both companies.
Looks like everyone here was cheating.
It destroys the credibility of both company's claims.
Oh, I don't think for a second that Mineoro is an innocent victim in all this. And I suspect you knew about all this before I posted it.
Well, that involves the additional info I have, which suggests that no LRL was involved at all in finding the coins, and that Mr. Mitchell was paid by both companies".
(See here): http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...6&postcount=40

Of course, Dell Winders jumped into the discussion after Carl-NC uncovered the facts, and insisted Jim Mitchell denies that he found anything with Electroscope LRLs:
Dell Winders: When Thomas Affalini, published that Jim's finds were found with the Electroscope, Jim sent a letter to Electroscope, and Lost Treasure magazine, emphatically denying that he had found anything with the Electroscope. A retraction or apology was never made,to my knowledge.
Carl-NC: This correlates to what I was told years ago in an email. I was also told the silver dollars were found with a metal detector, no mention of Mineoro. The email must be from my Compuserve days, and I no longer have it, nor can I remember who sent it.
There is still a problem with this issue. There is a photo of Jim Mitchell holding an Escope in one hand, and silver dollars in the other. If he did not genuinely find the silver dollars with the Escope, then there aren't many ethical reasons he would pose for this photo, and any other photos of him posing with an LRL cannot be trusted.
(See here): http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...6&postcount=40

What!!?
Carl-NC learned that the coins were found with a METAL DETECTOR? --- NOT AN LRL?

Maybe Alonso should remove that fake photo from his facebook page....


Best Wishes,
J_P

[robalocarapanda]

pictures of the medallion

if I do not doubt that these companies are doing this to attract customers in the facebook page of mineoro chacho appears with three allazgos a small bar of gold, which my friend found a tesla, then get a medallion according found in 2011, and the other was the bracelet in 2010, and these allazgos were found in 2012, the small bar is real but was found with another LRL and the year does not correspond, the medal was found with a LRL as esteban makes the red one with a fixed antenna aluminum pipe, and the bracelet is false that we find the second oscillator chacho where he headed straight to look as if it would attract a magnet.
I'm like in a movie where I am tying up loose ends of the memories I have of how the meetings were held, no, but honestly I think some were true, but many other false, in addition to the information in their web exiben is false does not correspond dates, which they say was found.
i put the pictures of the medallion this are in my hand in the 2012 year not in 2011 or 2010.

si no lo dudo, que estas compañias esten haciendo esto para atraer clientes, en la pagina de facebook de mineoro aparece chacho , con tres allazgos una pequeña barra de oro, la cual la encontro mi amigo con un tesla, despues sale un medallon que segun encontraron en el 2011 , y el otro fue la pulsera en el 2010 , y estos allazgos se encontraron en el 2012 , la barra pequeña es verdadera pero se encontro con otro LRL y el año no corresponde, la medalla fue encontrada con un un LRL como los que hace esteban uno rojo con una antena fija de tubo de aluminio, y la pulsera es falsa por que encontramos el segundo oscilador en el lugar donde chacho se dirigio directamente a buscar como si un iman lo atrajera.
estoy como en una pelicula donde estoy atando cabos de los recuerdos que tengo de como se realizaron los encuentros, no se , pero honestamente creo que unos fueron verdaderos , pero muchos otros falsos, ademas de la informacion que exiben en sus web es falsa no corresponden las fechas , en las que dicen se encontro.

[robalocarapanda]

excuse this is the mini tesla with mi friend find de medallion and de small gold barr

best regards

[Geo]

Hi.
Is this Tesla LRL tha same with these that you attached at post #45???

Regards

[humhum]

Mini Tesla

Hi Robalocarapanda, your Mini Tesla up to what max. meters can found one coin or treasure , and can you send to we more photos from your Mini Tesla ( front,inside and back side) .



Regard.

[Morgan]

PDK-2 in Mexico

really that the videos are real, the video is real, was carried out immediately after that we, I end up the surprise of finding the oscillator, we stopped and we do, we can do in the back of the videos that my daughter 16 years and one side is the wife of the ingeniro mail, was not going to make a fraud in front of my daughter ..
we were like 2 hours trying all the LRL and all the signal captured some more some less but doubt, we jump when the LRL Tesla White did not detect the signal, we at last the LRA since the end with the ionic field was strange that in days past and this was alonzo LRL tried it and gave us the last 4 beps two to the left and two right and did not give more, they finished the ionic field.

there were two strange things, first teams gave beps LRL and LRL beps without moving, you aimed the LRL bep bep bep and sounded boe.
second, the tesla did not work.

decided to locate the target with a PI and the target was not in its original place was in another and there was a cactus cut with a knife and covered with earth, it was more strange then had a white trash down the cactus, that was more rare, that's how we discovered the oscillator, and decided to present the methods, we were angry alonzo, each person traveled two hours with LRL to test and see if that day would be a good day to search the old road, which led to people and their cargoes of gold, from Mexico to Veracruz as well as the hideouts of bandits who stole around.

Hi Hugo

thanks for the phone call about your silver object found with PDK-2 in Mexico.
As i understand,the distance was 4 meters,and the depth 40 cm,thats also nice if you send a photo of find to the forum.

Gracias por la informacion sobre la descubierta de objecto de plata con el PDK-2,finalmente es encontrado algo,nos ensina la foto de objecto se es possible.

Abrazos

[Morgan]

PDK-2

Hi Hugo

thanks for the phone call about your silver object found with PDK-2 in Mexico.
As i understand,the distance was 4 meters,and the depth 40 cm,thats also nice if you send a photo of find to the forum.

Gracias por la informacion sobre la descubierta de objecto de plata con el PDK-2,finalmente es encontrado algo,nos ensina la foto de objecto se es possible.

Abrazos

Is very nice that in Mexico the VHF transmittions will stay until 2016,anyway when they finish ,the PDK-2 still working as LRL,but you will lose 50% of his power...thats the conclusion of my tests here.
But i´m still working in the VHF project.


Hugo´s PDK-2

[robalocarapanda]

yes MORGAN i go to the beach and have a 20 minutes with the pdk2, here are many people in the sand and in the water and are difficult explore the zone but have a good signal bip to the right and Bip to the left, one and again and again, lost the signal went i walk tree or four step , back and put the pdk down and delimited the area to 50cm x 50cm and make a hole aprox 40 to 45 cm i find the ring. tomorrow put the picture mi camera go to the sea in a boat i lost.

best regards