ion detector request

[jack]

This is a schematic of a ferrite
What shape is combined with a circuit with a BFO??
Friends who can explain to me?

[J_Player]

This is a schematic of a ferrite
What shape is combined with a circuit with a BFO??
Friends who can explain to me?

This is a circuit diagram for a simple AM radio receiver. There is no BFO connected anywhere here.
You can connect a speaker or headphones to the location marked for LED and you will hear music if it is tuned to a radio station.
Or you can watch the LED become bright if it is picking up a radio signal.


Best wishes,
J_P

[WM6]

This is a schematic of a ferrite
What shape is combined with a circuit with a BFO??
Friends who can explain to me?

You have great filing to find nonsence schematic.

[jack]

The circuit you're on this topic

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17176&page=5

Please explain to me about this circuit???
best wishes

[J_Player]

The circuit you're on this topic

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17176&page=5

Please explain to me about this circuit???
best wishes

Geo copied this circuit from photos of a Mineoro FG-79 locator, then I re-drew the circuit Geo made so it is easier to read.
We already explained about this circuit here: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...ad.php?t=17318
You can click on that link and read nearly 200 forum posts that explain about that circuit.

If you actually read those posts, you will see that nobody thinks this is good for treasure hunting except hung.
Everybody else agrees it cannot locate a coin at long range.
Please go to the link above to read the explanations about this circuit.
Also read these posts which explain why this circuit does not work:

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=122159&postcount=75

http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=118690&postcount=78
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=122223&postcount=111
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=47468&postcount=32
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=50315&postcount=119
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=96087&postcount=86
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=47501&postcount=49
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=96118&postcount=90
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=116404&postcount=107
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showpost.php?p=122159&postcount=75
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12061
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12165

You can see most people who used Mineoro think it is not good for treasure hunting.
If you still believe this is a good circuit for treasure hunting after you read the explanations, then you will need to find somebody who believes the Mineoro circuit is good.
Maybe you can get help from hung, because he is the only person in this forum who believes Mineoro circuits will work.
You can send a PM to hung to see how much help he will give you to make this circuit into a working LRL.

Or if you cannot get help from hung, you can contact Alonso who originally designed some of this circuit.
You can send Alonso an email here: patricia@mineoro.com.br
You can ask Patricia to translate your email to Spanish so Alonso will know exactly what kind of help you are looking for.
Then you can wait for Alonso to send back an email to tell you all the answers to your questions and circuit diagram corrections.
Maybe he will send the hex code for the Atmel too.
You will not know how to complete this LRL until you ask the right persons who actually know the answers for how to make it work.
But nobody here except hung believes it will work.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Morgan]

This is a circuit diagram for a simple AM radio receiver. There is no BFO connected anywhere here.
You can connect a speaker or headphones to the location marked for LED and you will hear music if it is tuned to a radio station.
Or you can watch the LED become bright if it is picking up a radio signal.


Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P

Tell me if is possible to hear music also with the Mini Zahori circuit . Yes or not ?
Mini Zahori is one Ion locator.

Regards

[WM6]

Hi J_P

Tell me if is possible to hear music also with the Mini Zahori circuit . Yes or not ?
Mini Zahori is one Ion locator.

Regards

Hi Morgan. If you hear music with your Ion locator, it is not magic inside, it is only about bad design.

Another example: take one active audio amplifier and touch it with wire end on different circuit points. There is a quite reliable that after touch some points you will hear music (from your local radio station).

wire (or PCB copper track) + semiconductor element (working as diode) + voice element (buzzer) => primitive radio receiver.

Such random configurations can be found in most circuits. It is on designer to prevent such unintended radio receiving (eg. by RF shielding).

[Morgan]

If you hear music with your Ion locator, it is not magic inside, it is only about bad design.

Another example: take one active audio amplifier and touch it with wire end on different circuit points. There is a quite reliable that after touch some points you will hear music (from your local radio station).

wire (or PCB copper track) + semiconductor element (diode) + voice element (buzzer) => primitive radio receiver.

Such random configurations can be found in most circuits. It is on designer to prevent such unintended radio receiving (eg. by RF shielding).

Ok, understand, i see is very simple to build one radio receiver...

[J_Player]

Hi J_P

Tell me if is possible to hear music also with the Mini Zahori circuit . Yes or not ?
Mini Zahori is one Ion locator.

Regards

Hi Morgan,
It is possible to hear music in some conditions with the thing that you call Zahori and Mini Zahori.
The reason is because you built something different than the Zahori, then you called it Zahori instead of calling it by the correct name.
We all know the Zahori uses a group of 4016 switches to unload the antenna and to operate a sample and hold module.
What you built does not have these identifying features found in the real Zahori, and is not a Zahori.

So it is very possible they you can tune music that is broadcast from the circuits you built which ARE NOT ZAHORI circuits.
I saw one of your circuits that was a modification of a circuit I drew, that is not related to the Zahori, but you were calling it MINI ZAHORI...!

Even a well-designed real zahori circuit can be made to tune music under some conditions by adjusting the digital filter frequency, but the circuits you showed were not Zahori circuits.
I watched you post several charge detector based circuits in the Zahori thread which were not Zahoris at all.
You only gave them the name of Zahori and caused confusion to make people believe the Zahori is acting as a radio tuner.
Furthermore, most of your circuits have secret parts which prevent anyone from knowing how to expect they will respond to RF.
How can anyone know if there are any hidden semiconductors or coils that are tuning radio broadcasts?
Even when you post most of the circuit, we see there are more details in the construction that are not shown in the circuit diagram such as coils wound around wires in a toroid form, antenna wires crossing over other antenna wires passive metal parts near the antenna, undisclosed materials sandwiched between coils with strange electrical connections.
How can anyone determine whether your circuits can tune music if they only see the parts of a circuit diagram that you show, without knowing what other hidden parts are connected or what strange construction methods were used which could tune or not tune RF?
None of the hidden parts can be seen in a simple circuit diagram, nor can loose wires or strange parts interfering with the antenna or any of the layout.
I have seen nowhere that you ever posted in one single post the complete circuit diagram and all the construction details for any of your LRL projects.
We find new hints and details about your circuit constructions scattered all over the different threads.

If you want my opinion of whether one of your LRLs can tune music, then post the full schematic and photos of all the parts to show how they are positioned in relation to the antenna and batteries, including the hidden parts.
Until I see all the details, I will think you are not talking about a Zahori locator.
And I will think it is an electronic box that may or may not be built in a way that is capable of tuning radio sounds.


Best wishes,
J_P

[Morgan]

Hi Morgan,
It is possible to hear music in some conditions with the thing that you call Zahori and Mini Zahori.
The reason is because you built something different than the Zahori, then you called it Zahori instead of calling it by the correct name.
We all know the Zahori uses a group of 4016 switches to unload the antenna and to operate a sample and hold module.
What you built does not have these identifying features found in the real Zahori, and is not a Zahori.

So it is very possible they you can tune music that is broadcast from the circuits you built which ARE NOT ZAHORI circuits.
I saw one of your circuits that was a modification of a circuit I drew, that is not related to the Zahori, but you were calling it MINI ZAHORI...!

Even a well-designed real zahori circuit can be made to tune music under some conditions by adjusting the digital filter frequency, but the circuits you showed were not Zahori circuits.
I watched you post several charge detector based circuits in the Zahori thread which were not Zahoris at all.
You only gave them the name of Zahori and caused confusion to make people believe the Zahori is acting as a radio tuner.
Furthermore, most of your circuits have secret parts which prevent anyone from knowing how to expect they will respond to RF.
How can anyone know if there are any hidden semiconductors or coils that are tuning radio broadcasts?
Even when you post most of the circuit, we see there are more details in the construction that are not shown in the circuit diagram such as coils wound around wires in a toroid form, antenna wires crossing over other antenna wires passive metal parts near the antenna, undisclosed materials sandwiched between coils with strange electrical connections.
How can anyone determine whether your circuits can tune music if they only see the parts of a circuit diagram that you show, without knowing what other hidden parts are connected or what strange construction methods were used which could tune or not tune RF?
None of the hidden parts can be seen in a simple circuit diagram, nor can loose wires or strange parts interfering with the antenna or any of the layout.
I have seen nowhere that you ever posted in one single post the complete circuit diagram and all the construction details for any of your LRL projects.
We find new hints and details about your circuit constructions scattered all over the different threads.

If you want my opinion of whether one of your LRLs can tune music, then post the full schematic and photos of all the parts to show how they are positioned in relation to the antenna and batteries, including the hidden parts.
Until I see all the details, I will think you are not talking about a Zahori locator.
And I will think it is an electronic box that may or may not be built in a way that is capable of tuning radio sounds.


Best wishes,
J_P

Hi dear J_P

I have no secrets to MINI ZAHORI OR PISTOLDETEKTOR(Alonso´s PD). i supose i explain everything in the threads,no secrets at all.

The MINI ZAHORI,if i dont sell it for the miserable amount of 75E during this year,i will send to you next Christmas as a gift,and you can check that i´m right,no secrets.

[J_Player]

Hi dear J_P

I have no secrets to MINI ZAHORI OR PISTOLDETEKTOR(Alonso´s PD). i supose i explain everything in the threads,no secrets at all.

The MINI ZAHORI,if i dont sell it for the miserable amount of 75E during this year,i will send to you next Christmas as a gift,and you can check that i´m right,no secrets.

Hi Morgan,
I have no use for a locator that you call Mini Zahori.
The only reason why anyone would need to see the schematic and all the details and photos of every part in a single post is so they can answer the question you asked for:

Tell me if is possible to hear music also with the Mini Zahori circuit . Yes or not ?
Mini Zahori is one Ion locator.

If you are serious that you want me to answer that question, then you will need to post all details in a single post.
You have never done this.
We find some of the details for this so called "Mini Zahori" in Esteban's Zahori topic, and others scattered all over the forum in different threads.
In fact you keep part of this circuit secret "OK,only the IONIC CHAMBERS for Zahory is TOP SECRET..."
Everyone knows the real Zahori has no ionic chambers.
If you built ionic chambers in your mini Zahori, then you did not not post it in your circuit diagram to show the electrical connections or show the chamber construction.
You can put the complete circuit diagram and tell all the details of construction for the circuit and antenna and power supply, and post photos showing all the parts.
Then we will have enough information to give you an answer to your question, instead of needing to search through many forum threads over several years and try to guess from a partial circuit diagram that you posted.
I know of no other way to find an answer to the question that you asked for.
The best anyone can do is to guess if you don't show the necessary information to answer your question.


Best wishes,
J_P