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  • #31
    By J_Player

    If Geo or Dell Winders can show you how to recover treasure when using an MFD, then make a post to tell us all about the treasures that you find when using their methods.
    I will be happy to congratulate you or Geo or Dell Winders if you can show your post with photos of all the treasures that you recovered when you use the methods they show you to make recoveries with MFD.


    Also , I am agree , there isn’t movie for proof which LRods really working !!!!
    Why???

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    • #32
      Dave, I don't know who designed the earlier GMs. I should find out. But I will agree, that 13kHz and 19.2kHz, are good gold frequencies, as are 14kHz and 50kHz. And even 70kHz.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by aft_72005 View Post
        By J_Player

        If Geo or Dell Winders can show you how to recover treasure when using an MFD, then make a post to tell us all about the treasures that you find when using their methods.
        I will be happy to congratulate you or Geo or Dell Winders if you can show your post with photos of all the treasures that you recovered when you use the methods they show you to make recoveries with MFD.


        Also , I am agree , there isn’t movie for proof which LRods really working !!!!
        Why???
        You are exactly correct.
        The reason why there is no proof is because the MFD does not help you to recover treasure !
        If you don't believe the MFD does not help to recover treasure, then read the truth on Dell Winders web page.
        Read where Dell Winders says his Pro-4 frequency discriminator locator from 2003 has not recovered a single treasure: http://www.omnitron.net/del_prod.htm
        "The PRO-4 has yet to prove it's merit with a recovery".

        Then read where Dell confirms his products do not detect treasure from his post in the treasurehunting forum:
        Carl-NC: "Dell, of the LRLs you sell, can any of them actually detect gold?"
        Dell Winders: "NO! In my opinion, the locators I sell DO NOT actually detect Gold. Dell"


        We have seen what happens when people use MFD locators.
        No matter how much experimenting they do, the frequency generator does not help to recover treasure.
        Treasure hunters can build very nice frequency generators, or they can spend thousands of euros to buy a very nice frequency generator.
        But they will see the same as ma330 that they cannot find any more treasure than when they do not use any frequency generator.
        Nobody can make any post in this forum to show ma330 how to use his MFD locator to recover treasure because MFD cannot locate treasure.
        MFD is fake and it is a fraud.
        Watch the proof that it cannot find treasure during the next month.
        You will see nobody can show ma330 how to recover treasure with his MFD locator during the next month or any months after.


        Best wishes,
        J_P

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        • #34
          Originally posted by J_Player View Post
          You are exactly correct.
          The reason why there is no proof is because the MFD does not help you to recover treasure !
          If you don't believe the MFD does not help to recover treasure, then read the truth on Dell Winders web page.
          Read where Dell Winders says his Pro-4 frequency discriminator locator from 2003 has not recovered a single treasure: http://www.omnitron.net/del_prod.htm
          "The PRO-4 has yet to prove it's merit with a recovery".

          Then read where Dell confirms his products do not detect treasure from his post in the treasurehunting forum:
          Carl-NC: "Dell, of the LRLs you sell, can any of them actually detect gold?"
          Dell Winders: "NO! In my opinion, the locators I sell DO NOT actually detect Gold. Dell"


          We have seen what happens when people use MFD locators.
          No matter how much experimenting they do, the frequency generator does not help to recover treasure.
          Treasure hunters can build very nice frequency generators, or they can spend thousands of euros to buy a very nice frequency generator.
          But they will see the same as ma330 that they cannot find any more treasure than when they do not use any frequency generator.
          Nobody can make any post in this forum to show ma330 how to use his MFD locator to recover treasure because MFD cannot locate treasure.
          MFD is fake and it is a fraud.
          Watch the proof that it cannot find treasure during the next month.
          You will see nobody can show ma330 how to recover treasure with his MFD locator during the next month or any months after.


          Best wishes,
          J_P

          Hi J_Player
          May be we can see movie in the matter.
          Aren't they….. upload ???
          Best regards.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by J_Player View Post
            Hi ma330,
            You have read the warnings from me and from Carl-NC and from Qiaozhi and WM6 and many other people Long before you decided to build the LRL here --> http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...ad.php?t=18487

            We told you MFD does not work.
            But you did not believe.
            I knew you would continue to look for a working MFD, so I decided to help you.
            I showed you the MFD that Carl-NC designed because it is the best engineered example I could find.
            The MFD you built is better than other commercial MFDs that cost many thousands of euros.
            You have the best information that was gathered from LRL manufacturers and printed for anyone to build at a low cost.

            I showed you this MFD and gave you very detailed instructions so you would be able to have the very best MFD in the world, and you could test it with your own hands instead of read stories about MFD.
            But most important, I did not want you to waste your money with a commercial scam LRL.
            I am happy to see you were able to complete the MFD at a very low cost.

            Already you have experimented and what did you find?
            A rock?
            How long will you continue to look before you discover that MFD does not help you to find treasure?

            I have a good suggestion for you. Consider this:
            You can read that Dell Winders is calling me a liar. He says I am giving false information.
            You can also read where Geo says that MFD works.

            I think that Dell winders is wrong and Geo is wrong.
            I think they cannot find any treasure with MFD and they cannot help anyone else to find treasure with MFD.

            But what if Geo and Dell Winders are correct?
            If they know a method for recovering treasure when using MFD, then they tell you how to do it.
            My suggestion is that you make a post to ask Geo to show you how to recover treasure with a MFD locator.
            Then make a second post to ask Dell Winders to show you how to recover treasure with a MFD locator.
            I believe they cannot show you how to recover treasure with an MFD locator.
            If you make the posts to ask them, you will see I am right.
            I know that after a month passes, you will not find a treasure even if you follow the instructions they give you. (Maybe they will refuse to give you instructions?)

            But maybe I am wrong.
            If Geo or Dell Winders can show you how to recover treasure when using an MFD, then make a post to tell us all about the treasures that you find when using their methods.
            I will be happy to congratulate you or Geo or Dell Winders if you can show your post with photos of all the treasures that you recovered when you use the methods they show you to make recoveries with MFD.


            Best wishes,
            J_P

            Hi J_P.
            I will try to say some things.
            I had say how to work the MFDs but maybe you don't remember.
            First of all you must good at dowsing so to keep the lrods very stable
            Second.... the current that flows from MFD to ground must be >=10ma.
            And third... i don't know if MA330 or aft or you know a place that there is really a treasure.
            But with my method you will find for sure a lot of objects.

            Regards
            Geo

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Carl-NC View Post
              Geo, there is a valuable lesson here, when you are ready for that lesson.
              Hi Carl.
              Thanks for your intention.
              I am ready from today

              Geo

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Geo View Post
                Hi J_P.
                I will try to say some things.
                I had say how to work the MFDs but maybe you don't remember.
                First of all you must good at dowsing so to keep the lrods very stable
                Second.... the current that flows from MFD to ground must be >=10ma.
                And third... i don't know if MA330 or aft or you know a place that there is really a treasure.
                But with my method you will find for sure a lot of objects.

                Regards
                Hi Geo,
                Yes, I remember you showed many methods and tips for making MFD work.
                And everyone who posted in the forum that they built your simple MFD and used your methods said they did not work for recovering treasure.
                This is the reason I am certain that after a month of trying your methods to recover treasure when using MFD, ma330 will also find that MFD cannot recover treasure.

                Dell is very careful on his web page to say that his Pro-4 frequency discriminator has not recovered a treasure.
                And he was also very careful to never say his X-Scan combo recovered treasures.
                Why?
                Because he knows they cannot detect treasures, and customers will sue him if he claims they can.

                But maybe I am wrong.
                Prove it by showing ma330 how to recover treasures with the MFD that he built.
                When I see ma330s photos of all the treasures he recovered by using your methods, then I will congratulate you.


                Best wisehes
                J_P

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by aft_72005 View Post
                  Hi J_Player
                  May be we can see movie in the matter.
                  Aren't they….. upload ???
                  Best regards.
                  Hi Aft,
                  No, Nobody makes any video of MFD finding treasure because MFD cannot locate treasure.
                  I found one person who makes fake videos of Rangertell MFD locating treasure in the parking lot of a trailer park.
                  He shows a Dell Winders product in one of his videos. See these fake videos below:

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaBNvL50_2w <== shows Dell Winders product in second half of video





                  If you read the comments under the videos, you will see that readers think they are watching fake scam video.
                  When I see these videos, I think I wasted my time watching fake BS.


                  Best wishes,
                  J_P

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                    Hi Aft,
                    No, Nobody makes any video of MFD finding treasure because MFD cannot locate treasure.
                    I found one person who makes fake videos of Rangertell MFD locating treasure in the parking lot of a trailer park.
                    He shows a Dell Winders product in one of his videos. See these fake videos below:

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaBNvL50_2w <== shows Dell Winders product in second half of video





                    If you read the comments under the videos, you will see that readers think they are watching fake scam video.
                    When I see these videos, I think I wasted my time watching fake BS.


                    Best wishes,
                    J_P
                    These videos are a great example of self-delusion by the operator. Note how the location of all the targets is known beforehand, and you can even see his hand moving to make the swingy thing rotate in the right direction.

                    A laugh from beginning to end.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by J_Player View Post
                      Hi Aft,
                      No, Nobody makes any video of MFD finding treasure because MFD cannot locate treasure.
                      I found one person who makes fake videos of Rangertell MFD locating treasure in the parking lot of a trailer park.
                      He shows a Dell Winders product in one of his videos. See these fake videos below:

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaBNvL50_2w <== shows Dell Winders product in second half of video





                      If you read the comments under the videos, you will see that readers think they are watching fake scam video.
                      When I see these videos, I think I wasted my time watching fake BS.


                      Best wishes,
                      J_P
                      Hi J_Player
                      See picture , my home build Lrods .also with balance Wight and sample chamber .
                      It is with very low friction when rotate. My first try without result
                      Best regards.
                      Attached Files

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                      • #41
                        hi to all
                        I am a new member.I worked many years with mfd and LROD.
                        I believe that the signal generator to help you find metals.After years of trying I was able to design a MFD Metals will also emerged that easily attaches to the separation of metals.I agree with GEO said.To work with this metal detector systems require a lot of experience.
                        I'll try to blog more on this post
                        Sincere.MUSTEFA
                        Knowledge is the greatest wealth

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by mustefa ubram View Post

                          To work with this metal detector systems require a lot of experience.
                          It is not question "to work with", but to find something valuable.
                          Global capital is ruining your life?
                          You have right to self-defence!

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by WM6 View Post
                            It is not question "to work with", but to find something valuable.
                            ... and not something that can be seen by everyone or was buried by the operator.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by mustefa ubram View Post
                              hi to all
                              I am a new member.I worked many years with mfd and LROD.
                              I believe that the signal generator to help you find metals.After years of trying I was able to design a MFD Metals will also emerged that easily attaches to the separation of metals.I agree with GEO said.To work with this metal detector systems require a lot of experience.
                              I'll try to blog more on this post
                              Sincere.MUSTEFA
                              Hi mustefa ubram
                              Attention to your name I think you are from turkey , welcome .
                              Mustefa, how you can proof , Lrods really work???

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by aft_72005 View Post
                                Hi J_Player
                                See picture , my home build Lrods .also with balance Wight and sample chamber .
                                It is with very low friction when rotate. My first try without result
                                Best regards.
                                Hi Aft,
                                I see you have built very nice rods with sample chamber.
                                I think this is a good idea to build the best rods that you can.
                                Then you can test to see with your own hands if it will work for you to recover treasures.
                                I have tried rods many times, but I never see any results when I use the methods that other people say will work.
                                Still it is good to make tests so you will know for certain what you see.


                                Best wishes,
                                J_P

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