CRYPTON MINI

[Geo]

Hi Geo,
How does this "Another friend" know what is inside the crypton?
Did he actually see the circuit board and transistors that are inside a working crypton?
Or is he simply guessing what he thinks is inside like you did?

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P.
You took one photo from Crypton and you think that it is the right!!!!!
I don't think what is inside the Cryfton, because the constructor attached the pcb with components at a Greek forum, except if the Cryfton company is not a seriously company but a fraud.
My friend saw inside the Cryfton by puting it inside a X- ray machine.
But maybe...the photo that they sent to you is the right and all the other are fraud...

Regards

[Geo]

Hi Morgan,
I have also read reports of the crypton detecting in Mexico.
From what I read, it appears that the crypton is a good locator, but they found some problems that have not been solved yet.
Maybe the new crypton mini will have all problems solved.
I will wait to see the field results from the crypton mini.

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi.
Andy Flind is dead.
So, what new schematic they put inside????

Regards

[J_Player]

Hi J_P.
You took one photo from Crypton and you think that it is the right!!!!!
I don't think what is inside the Cryfton, because the constructor attached the pcb with components at a Greek forum, except if the Cryfton company is not a seriously company but a fraud.
My friend saw inside the Cryfton by puting it inside a X- ray machine.
But maybe...the photo that they sent to you is the right and all the other are fraud...

Regards

Hi Geo,
The photo you post is wrong.
This is a photo you found in the Greek forum that shows a circuit board people say will be in the Crypton before it was manufactured.
It is obvious that you copied your photo from the Greek forum before the Crypton was manufactured.
Your photo is NOT a photo of the circuit board that is used inside of a working Crypton locator.
Anyone who looks at the photos of the circuit board that is seen inside the Crypton can tell that it is much different than what you posted.
Maybe you should open a Crypton to see what is the real circuit instead of posting false photos that you guess is inside the Crypton.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Hi Geo,
The photo you post is wrong.
This is a photo you found in the Greek forum that shows a circuit board people say will be in the Crypton before it was manufactured.
It is obvious that you copied your photo from the Greek forum before the Crypton was manufactured.
Your photo is NOT a photo of the circuit board that is used inside of a working Crypton locator.
Anyone who looks at the photos of the circuit board that is seen inside the Crypton can tell that it is much different than what you posted.
Maybe you should open a Crypton to see what is the real circuit instead of posting false photos that you guess is inside the Crypton.

Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P.
Maybe you know more than the Cryfton constructors.
If so, then the Cryfton constructors are LIARS

Regards

[Morgan]

Hi guys

About this, i think is time to wait more about mini crypton, cause i also know what J_Player is saing below is correct.
Here in South America we are waiting to see more coments about this job of crypton.
Has i know this has something to do with Andreas circuits that was posted before on the forum and has we all know some devices today were inpired on this guy schematics.
Has i remember, there is a picture of Morgan job when he made his first pdk circuit on wires placed over Andreas schematics paper. So may be this is close to what we are thinking.
Unfortunally i haven´t read Andreas to ask more, but i trust on his job.

Regards

Nelson

Hello


There is something you must know about PDK project.

Here you find the sequence :

Alonso (the inventor and designer of the PD )

Esteban (the designer of first PDK based on Alonsos PD passive receiver)

Andreas (modificate the Esteban´s PDK design)

Aft_20075 (modificate the Andreas PDK)

Geo (made is own version of PDK based on his knowledge)

Morgan (I made great modifications in the Aft PDK design)

So,what is the PDK-2 ? Is one modificated design of the Alonsos Passive Receiver,all this people work on it,each one develop something and UPGRADE the circuit.

The PD was bought in Paraguay where was tested and it was working there better than here,this is one good reason to believe that PDK´s work fine in your country.

[Geo]

Hello


There is something you must know about PDK project.

Here you find the sequence :

Alonso (the inventor and designer of the PD )

Esteban (the designer of first PDK based on Alonsos PD passive receiver)

Andreas (modificate the Esteban´s PDK design)

Aft_20075 (modificate the Andreas PDK)

Geo (made is own version of PDK based on his knowledge)

Morgan (I made great modifications in the Aft PDK design)

So,what is the PDK-2 ? Is one modificated design of the Alonsos Passive Receiver,all this people work on it,each one develop something and UPGRADE the circuit.

The PD was bought in Paraguay where was tested and it was working there better than here,this is one good reason to believe that PDK´s work fine in your country.

Hi.
Don't forget that the first PDK was mine.
When i came to Portugal the lrl that i had with me was a PDK with coil stimulator.
After it Esteban attached the schematic of PDK and how to put a oscillator as stimulator and ... etc ... etc....
Of course you are the person who made it known over all the world.

Regards

[aft_72005]

Hello


There is something you must know about PDK project.

Here you find the sequence :

Alonso (the inventor and designer of the PD )

Esteban (the designer of first PDK based on Alonsos PD passive receiver)

Andreas (modificate the Esteban´s PDK design)

Aft_20075 (modificate the Andreas PDK)

Geo (made is own version of PDK based on his knowledge)

Morgan (I made great modifications in the Aft PDK design)

So,what is the PDK-2 ? Is one modificated design of the Alonsos Passive Receiver,all this people work on it,each one develop something and UPGRADE the circuit.

The PD was bought in Paraguay where was tested and it was working there better than here,this is one good reason to believe that PDK´s work fine in your country.

Hi Morgan
I never give you more data , only small tip .
Regards.

[aft_72005]

Morgan
Remember I asked you about , how tune stimulator coil ??, you never give me reply
remember Morgan you said me ""why you don’t thanks from Geo"""
then I thanks form Geo ,I thanks only base on manner , but never Geo give me data
about LRL , only some pictures , thanks for nothing valuable data !!!!

[J_Player]

Hello


There is something you must know about PDK project.
Here you find the sequence :

Alonso (the inventor and designer of the PD )
Esteban (the designer of first PDK based on Alonsos PD passive receiver)
Andreas (modificate the Esteban´s PDK design)
Aft_20075 (modificate the Andreas PDK)
Geo (made is own version of PDK based on his knowledge)
Morgan (I made great modifications in the Aft PDK design)

So,what is the PDK-2 ? Is one modificated design of the Alonsos Passive Receiver,all this people work on it,each one develop something and UPGRADE the circuit.

The PD was bought in Paraguay where was tested and it was working there better than here,this is one good reason to believe that PDK´s work fine in your country.

Hi Morgan,
This is an interesting discussion about the origins of the pistol detectors.
I remember watching the pistol detectors from the early development stages in this forum.

The first pistol detector we ever saw in the forum was the Mineoro DCH85, which became the basis for some other experimental and commercial developments.
Some time after 2006, Esteban began showing us photos of experimental modifications he made from the DCH85 and other Mineoro designs.
The tiny circuits he posted showed that his experiments contained many of the features found in the DCH85, as well as some of the recent PDK designs (See below).

Esteban microfilm circuits posted in 2007:


It wasn't long after that post when we saw the first posts for an experimental LRL made by Andreas, showing his Dillinger pistol with a high voltage Tesla coil.
While he was in contact with Esteban during this construction, the Dillinger was not related to the PD designs like we see in a DCH85 or more modern versions.
It was based on Russian circuitry from more than 50 years ago.
Then later that same year, we saw the release of the Iconos LRL, which looked suspiciously similar to the Mineoro DCH85, both in the physical design and the circuit design.

As time passed we saw a lot of experimental frequency generators and other LRLs in the forum, but nothing seemed to show any consistent results except for random stories of finding treasures.
All the commercial and experimental LRLs at that time had people who tried them, claiming they don't work.

It wasn't until the end of 2007 that Morgan showed some circuits inside an experimental pistol detector that Alonso built.
Looking at the circuit, it was noticeably different than the DCH85, but still had some key features that we find in a DCH85.
Possibly this pistol detector was an old prototype which seemed to work better than an actual DCH85.
This became the basis for a lot of experimental LRLs which used the exact same circuit, or modified versions.

As Morgan and others made more modifications, the circuit became simpler, and began to resemble the DCH85 more closely.
Today there are quite a few of these experimental PDs in Greece by various builders, as well as some unusual variants from Morgan in Portugal.
Of course, there is also the Tubedec in Brazil, which is essentially an exact copy of a Mineoro DCH85 put into a different housing.

But what about the Crypton?
Is this another pistol detector, or modified DCH85?
From what I have seen it is not.
It does not detect by the principles used in either the DCH85 or the more steamlined PDK models.
Nor does it perform the same as a PDK type pistol.
From what I can see, this is a design based on a different theory of detection than the theories believed by current PDK experimenters.
For this reason, it cannot be compared to a PDK or a DCH85, because the circuit does not work the same.
It appears the problems that were observed in early versions of the Crypton were related to a different kind of technology than the simple coil/sample/stimulator that PDK experimenters work with.
We can only wait to see if the new Crypton Mini has overcome these problems.


Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Hi J_P.
The "experimental LRL made by Andreas, showing his Dillinger pistol with a high voltage Tesla coil" is not a design from Andreas. It is a commercial lrl with name Positron, Andreas the only that he made is to reverse the schematic, nothing else.
Now about Cryfton... it is a Andy Flind MFD. About mini Cryfton... i don't know but this time i really want to see a real lrl

[aft_72005]

Hi all
Many members talking and having opinions about crypton
As I visited crypton website , and as I know designer of OBMD1 is Andreas.
He is member of forum , it is strange , why we didn’t meet him here for long time ?
In my opinion better Andreas present here and saying more about OBMD1 .
Best regards.

[Geo]

Hi all
Many members talking and having opinions about crypton
As I visited crypton website , and as I know designer of OBMD1 is Andreas.
He is member of forum , it is strange , why we didn’t meet him here for long time ?
In my opinion better Andreas present here and saying more about OBMD1 .
Best regards.

What to say he????
Don't you understand???? OBMD is a very simple magnetic field detector designed by Andy Flind, nothing else.
Before years Alonso made a small modification on the Andy Flind schematic and he sold some pistols as lrls. Now we see the same scenario inside a new and very beatiful box.

[aft_72005]

What to say he????
Don't you understand???? OBMD is a very simple magnetic field detector designed by Andy Flind, nothing else.
Before years Alonso made a small modification on the Andy Flind schematic and he sold some pistols as lrls. Now we see the same scenario inside a new and very beatiful box.

As you said for several times , upload some pictures from inside of CRYPTION OBMD1

[J_Player]

What to say he????
Don't you understand???? OBMD is a very simple magnetic field detector designed by Andy Flind, nothing else.
Before years Alonso made a small modification on the Andy Flind schematic and he sold some pistols as lrls. Now we see the same scenario inside a new and very beatiful box.

Hi Geo,
We all know you are spreading false information here.
We saw the videos g-sani made that showed the Crypton does not find iron.
We can watch again here to see you are wrong: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W0Ks...&feature=g-upl
And we can read the true reports from g-sani who tested the Crypton here: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...ad.php?t=18443
We can also see true reports from another Greek person who tested the Crypton to find copper and silver, but cannot find iron or magnets: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...&postcount=135
Then, we find reports from people in Greece who say Geo is making false reports in our forum: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...&postcount=126

I think it is better to believe the stories told by g-sani and other people who used the Crypton.
Why should we believe false stories from someone who has never tested the Crypton?
We do not need to believe false information from Geo.

I think aft is correct.
It is better to hear the truth from the people who design the Crypton instead of false things that Geo guesses.
Maybe Andreas or the Crypton people can come to tell us the real truth and facts, so we can know what this Crypton is about.

Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

As you said for several times , upload some pictures from inside of CRYPTION OBMD1

Post #16 here shows the photo from Cryfton pcb.
What other.....