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  • #46
    Originally posted by robert

    If that so than i guess it is
    possible to you or some of you to post here some (not brand new,not very comercial)
    project,schematic on that subject (mineoro-look-like or LRL type), not to simple, but
    with some ic's,transistors,some logic...etc. If you do not understand me well than look
    on some CMD thread with posted schematics.
    There's a topic for it called 'schematics' and it's not this one here for sure.
    You sound like some who showed previous attempts to obtain information from a device which has copy protection. If the concept or even the 'recipe' were to be of public domain, then everybody knows how would be the rest of the story...

    You say you want proof. But what kind of proof do you want?
    I think the best proof ever is your own self conviction. Nobody will influence that. If you convinced yourself it does not work, fine. You would not need to hang here. But I don't understand your almost insane temptation to try to lame Mineoro. It's so deliberate that I must confess that I enjoy your posts because they are comic and funny.

    I think your presence here is welcome. You don't need to leave since you are very important for a democratic forum. No absoulute truth without refutation. This is healthy.
    Although I disagree with a lot of things Carl says, I must admit he is a fine moderator and very democratic on how to run a discussion forum.
    "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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    • #47
      "Although I disagree with a lot of things Carl says, I must admit he is a fine moderator and very democratic on how to run a discussion forum."

      I try...

      Robert, There are plenty of holes in the operational claims made by Mineoro, and we can debate those til we all turn blue, but I think we will have to wait for the FG78 (et al) to be released and get someone to actually demonstrate the device, to see if it works. If you want to continue discussing the claims, please stay focused on the claims, and avoid personal comments about the people making the claims. Thanks.

      - Carl

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      • #48
        no title at all !!!


        "There's a topic for it called 'schematics' and it's not this one here for sure."
        Yes, but there also, not even one on that subject.And beleivers are so rare there!
        "You sound like some who showed previous attempts to obtain information from a device
        which has copy protection"
        Yes,many times. But none of them mentioned in these threads...
        "If the concept or even the 'recipe' were to be of public domain, then everybody knows
        how would be the rest of the story..."
        No we don't! U S P T O is meaning something toy you !? What is the "rest of the story"
        with Garrett,White's,Fisher,Minelab....are they busted so far!?

        "You would not need to hang here...."
        Yes i agree.So few reasons latelly. I already turned "blue"....Come to think, no reason at all.

        "But I don't understand your almost insane temptation to try to lame Mineoro...."
        You should! It shows that you never had or checked any of their device ever....

        "It's so deliberate that I must confess that I enjoy your posts because they are comic
        and funny."
        I'll stop than. May idea was to provoke you to start using some brains, but otherwise
        no sence at all....
        "...No absoulute truth without refutation. ..."
        How much i do agree with you on that !!!!! Absolute truth!!!!
        "This is healthy."
        Also very,very expensive!

        "I must admit he is a fine moderator and very democratic on how to run a discussion forum."
        I agree. He also knows the truth, from the very personal experience too. Try to convince
        him.....Than you'll turn "blue".

        "Robert, There are plenty of holes in the operational claims made by Mineoro, and we can
        debate those til we all turn blue, but I think we will have to wait for the FG78 (et al)
        to be released and get someone to actually demonstrate the device, to see if it works.
        If you want to continue discussing the claims, please stay focused on the claims, and avoid
        personal comments about the people making the claims. Thanks."
        No need to ask or thanks, Carl. It is done now!
        regards

        P.S.
        This morning as i wake up, i saw in a mirror a man!? I was expected donkey to see!
        Must be a kind od CMD mirror, who knows!?
        FG78 is disected and checked already, by me and my team...I see that all of you do not
        beleive that. Alright than. Wish you much of luck further.Best regards.
        I disapear now for good.....

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        • #49
          english site

          I just took a look and the english site is up.
          www.mineoro.com
          "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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          • #50
            Some good news for me.

            Originally posted by hung
            They could summarize all knobs which were present in previous models in an only single one through the use of a complex equation to automate the response. This was acomplished at the time the first stock of FG78s were ready to be shipped.
            Hi hung. That's very good news, then we can conclude the automatic versions are the best??
            If you received your FG80, necessarily inform us from your results.
            Please tell about their suggestion price and; when will FG80 be ready to be released for every one? How long will it take? By the time will be its' manual ready soon?
            Oh, please ask them put a movie from FG series detection of a fresh target in their site.
            Originally posted by hung
            Esteban, Michael and me never met. I'm from Brazil, Esteban from Paraguay and Michael from the Middle East. But I wish we'll meet someday.

            That's my high pleasure and honor and I wish too.
            Originally posted by robert
            Instead of arguing with me, instead of hate me, sit, relax and start thinking....
            I lied about FG78!? Didn't I!?Why should I? What is my interest here?Did you payed mesome money, so i had to lie to you!? Now i look like idiot in your eyes, i know that, but in very near future you'll see the truth !Never mind me.
            I told you I am not mad to argue with you or provoke you. You yourself choice the arguing and battling ways. I don't remember even one time have disrespected you, but you have done from time to time not only me but also to others. I wanted to rely on your comments ( as we had no acquaintance record before) but when I saw you completely deny LRLing, whereas I have experienced it and know it really and definitely works, how can rely on your other comments? There are so many things that I personally know and have seen with my two eyes from LRLing can't be put here ( If put, will see ; oh again are running personal ideas,…) then can't accept your comments. You maybe right due to your negative experiences about LRLing or not know it works, but Just for some other reasons battle against. unfortunately You can't tolerate the opposite ideas, when somebody swears LRLing is a true concept you start jangling and name them Idiot.
            I wish you were a good help, but due to lying, various slanders and prejudicial comments can't be an appropriate counselor.

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            • #51
              Hsssss!

              Disregarding is all you gain here........
              Go neverland and stay there!

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              • #52
                Hello Hung
                We still have not any news for the new models fg79-80 and dc2008.Have you learnt anything else?Also what are the prices?Have they started selling these units?

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by mineorogreece
                  Hello Hung
                  We still have not any news for the new models fg79-80 and dc2008.Have you learnt anything else?Also what are the prices?Have they started selling these units?
                  Hi Jim

                  Alonso is in Garopaba right now and both he and Damasio perform final tests on the new detectors. I was informed they will be ready around june 15th. But don't hold your breath for it as all of this may change...

                  Regardng prices, I suggest you email them as I don't know this myself yet.
                  "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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                  • #54
                    much expensive

                    Hi. in respond to my request patricia sent an e-mail. their suggestion price for our destination (U.A.E) was;
                    FG80 Retail Price USD 18,850.....53% off.........USD 8,718.-
                    I think it's somehow outrageous. when you compare with old models(e.g. FG.78 = 6400$) shouldn't be so much difference in price. supposing the FG80 is full automatic and more sensitive, in my opinion shouldn't increase about 36% in price. :confused:

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by michael
                      Hi. in respond to my request patricia sent an e-mail. their suggestion price for our destination (U.A.E) was;
                      FG80 Retail Price USD 18,850.....53% off.........USD 8,718.-
                      I think it's somehow outrageous. when you compare with old models(e.g. FG.78 = 6400$) shouldn't be so much difference in price. supposing the FG80 is full automatic and more sensitive, in my opinion shouldn't increase about 36% in price. :confused:
                      Michael,

                      I believe the increase in price has to do with the raise of export fees policy here in Brazil. Our president and its party are doing everything they can to raise money for their reelection purposes. General taxes here raised about 60% since this 'character' got elected. His party got involved in the worst case of corruption in our history.
                      So I am almost sure that this price included the exprt fees Mineoro has to 'pay the goverment'.
                      However,I will check to confirm this info and get back later to post some info.
                      "Should exist injustice and untruths towards working LRLs, I'll show up to debunker the big mouths"

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                      • #56
                        Hi Hung. Thank you. You will make us obliged to you for your favors.
                        I think they should consider a discount at least for whoever is offshore. this is a policy in most of firms and companies when export a good, will be free of tax, anyway a kind discount is considered for these situations.
                        this price is more or less intolerable. If you can do it, is laudable and will be appreciated.

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                        • #57
                          DEAR FRIENDS
                          I WATCH YOUR FORUM ENOUGH TIME, SPECIAL THE SUBJECTS WITH THE MINEORO INFORMATION.I WOULD WANT BECOMES A NEW BEGINNING, BECAUSE I HAVE THE DRAWINGS FOR HIS MANUFACTURE, REGULATIONS EVERYTHING,CALIBRATIONS IN ORDER TO IS MANUFACTURED THE ELECTRONIC CIRCUITS AND WE REALLY SEE IF IT WORKS.ΜΥ NAME IS ANDREAS MY JOB IS IN GREECE AND I AM SPECIALITY IN DRAWINGS of ORIGINAL ELECTRONIC CIRCUITS.MY KNOWLEDGE IN ELECTRONIC CIRCUITS AND THEORY THEY IS MOST EXCELLENT, BUT I BELIEVETHAT EXISTS ALSO KNOWLEDGE UNKNOWN, PERSONALLY INTERESTS ME MORE FROM THE HUNTING OF TREASURES.
                          HERE, YOU HELP ALL IN ORDER TO WE FIND A SOLUTION AND WE KNOW IF THE MINEORO THEY IS REAL INSTRUMENTS THAT FIND GOLD.I HAVE SENT IN THE CARL SCHEMATIC DIAGRAMS OF RECEIVER AND INDUCTORS FROM FIRST MODELS MINEORO.ALSO THE DRAWING OF ALARM WHEN IT FINDS SOMETHING.I HAVE STILL NOT SENT THE CIRCUIT OF TRANSMITTER, REGULATIONS OF ELECTRIC TENDENCY, AND CO-ORDINATION OF INDUCTORS. I WOULD WANT THEY ARE PUBLISHED IN A NEW UNIT OF FORUM FREELY BY THE FRIEND CARL.WHEN I SEE THE DRAWINGS IN THE FORUM I WILL PUBLISH ALSO THE TRANSMITTER. I BELIEVE THAT SOMETHING WILL BE FOUND IF THEY IS TRUTH OR .....FALSE. IF ALL GO WELL, I CAN SEND the FINAL REGULATIONS IN EACH ONE SEPARATELY WITH e-mail, BECAUSE I WOULD NOT WANT HIM SEE "ALL IN INTERNET". THESE CURRENTLY. DEAR CARL PLEASE PUT THE DROWNING SCHEMATICS FREE IN THE FORUM IN ORDER TO IT BEGINS WORK.
                          MY ENGLISH IF VERY POOR FORGIVE ME
                          E-MAIL ANCHRY@IN.GR
                          BEST REGARDS
                          ANDREAS
                          crypton's designer

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