Alonso and Mineoro....

[WM6]

As i know Alonso when goes for demostration, always he works with his own Mineoro, why????

Geo, at least, if this mean, that only working mineoro was Alonso demonstrating models, then you agree that mineoro models on sale are crap.

But probably they would not to sell crap if they were able to produce real LRL. But they are not and need scaming tricks to attract buyers.

Either way you look, mineoro sell crap, not real LRL.

[Morgan]

French forest

If at forest they found other coins and jewlery then why this who found Alonso is a trick???
All the other was French????
And if they are sure that Alonso used some tricks why they don't make a video and to post it at utube??? it is so simple!!!!

Hi

The objects found there after Master Alonso return home are ancient and some modern too,this was what everybody aspect to find with FG90,but not the low gold karat cheap jewellry located by Alonso ,this objects was probaly insert in the ground (very fast )by Patricia when some kind of transmitter was activated to start the MINEORO beeps . But this means nothing, for me Damasio & Alonso are the pioneers in LRL circuits and the tricks used are only to atract clients to buy the factory production and create famous for the brand.
Yes,i found a few objects with the DC2008 ,silver coin,a few objects and a golden buckle, but with DC2006 i found only a silver spon,and distances was short, this devices work only with special weather conditions,it is the same if you have a special car that need rainbow days to start the motor,or a lazy horse ...
If they make all MINEORO to behave like this,and have knowledge to make them to work fine in all weather conditions,i realy dont know.


regards

[Fred]

(...) this devices work only with special weather conditions,it is the same if you have a special car that need rainbow days to start the motor,or a lazy horse ...
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This is exactly what i wrote long time ago: Long time buried metal, under special conditions, may create some effect or field distortions, that could be detected at a larger distance than conventional detector...Maybe. But it is too unreliable to be useful.
The rest is trick of the mind and scam.

Chineses are smart, they don´t copy crap

[J_Player]

...the low gold karat cheap jewellry located by Alonso, this objects was probaly insert in the ground (very fast ) by Patricia when some kind of transmitter was activated to start the MINEORO beeps.

...the tricks used are only to atract clients to buy the factory production and create famous for the brand.

I agree with Morgan
I think Alonso put the fake targets in the ground and used transmitters to cause the Mineoro locator to make beeps from long distance at his Paris demonstration.
Here are four reasons why I think Morgan is correct:

1. Wrong target found in Paris:
The jewelry they find when Alonso and Patricia are making the demonstration is fake low-carat jewelry that was put in the ground.
This is not same high grade gold and ancient coins which people find in this area.
I believe they also used a transmitter to cause beeps at the FG90 when they were using it to find the fake treasure,
because FG90 cannot find fresh gold from the long distance we see in the Video.
FG90 does not work better than a metal detector for fresh gold.

2. There is more proof - Witness at the Paris demonstration saw FG90 does not work as Alonso demonstrated:
One witness from the French treasure hunting distributor watched them recover the cheap ear ring during the video in Paris.
After he saw this amazing recovery from Alonso and Patricia, sent an email to Morgan to say he bought a Mineoro FG90.
But he became very disappointed when nobody can find amazing detection with the FG90 like they see from Alonso and Patricia.
He can see it is not working as Alonso showed them in his demonstration.
I believe Morgan is correct:
A hidden transmitter caused Alonos's FG90 make beeps to find cheap jewelry that they put into the ground during their Paris visit.

3. Alonso left more more proof that he hides transmitters and buries fake targets.
Robalocarpanda from Mexico told us about a gold bracelet which he recovered when he was with Chacho in 2010.
A photo of this recovery was put in Mineoro facebook when they found it in 2010.
Then two years later, Robalocarpanda watched Alonso make a demonstration in Mexico to convince a customer in 2012.
Robalocarpanda watched Alonso and his factory helpers recover this exact same bracelet from 2010 again to fool a customer to believe they found a new long-time buried treasure.
They found Alonso's transmitter at this place where he made the fake demonstration in Mexico in 2012.
See Robalocarpanda's report of this fraud demonstration here: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...&postcount=141

It is not possible for this bracelet to be buried there in 2012 unless Alonso or Chaco or Filipe put it there, because it was already recovered in 2010.
The proof is on the Mineoro facebook photo here: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...e=1&permPage=1
See the photo that Mineoro posted to show this bracelet was recovered in 2010, not in 2012!

It is also certain that the Alonso and his factory team brought the transmitter to this demonsration, which the Mexican team discovered later.
Transmitters are not naturally found beeping in the treasure hunting areas of Mexico unless someone puts them there.
The words of Robalocarpanda who originally found that bracelet with Chacho in 2010: "...the bracelet is lie"

4. -- More proof:
According to the witnesses report, Alonso admitted that he put another transmitter in the ground at the time when he stole the gold from the Mexican team,
to fool them so they would believe the gold is still in the ground after he took it away.
Here is the transmitter they found when they discovered that Alonso stole their gold:

Alonso hidden transmitter is discovered:


This is not a fraud that Mineoro will do only on rare occasions - This is the standard business method for Mineoro.
Hidden transmitters, fake targets, and other tricks are Mineoro's standard method to convince customers that their locators are really working as amazing LRLs.
They sell crap LRLs. And they use tricks to convince people that their equipment will find small targets from long range.
Mineoro has been using tricks and fake targets to fool people from before the time when Morgan visited their factory in 2007 and discovered their fraud.
Morgan has the correct idea to believe that Mineoro factory people use hidden transmitters, fake targets, and other tricks to fool customers.


Best wishes,
J_P

[Geo]

Geo, at least, if this mean, that only working mineoro was Alonso demonstrating models, then you agree that mineoro models on sale are crap.

But probably they would not to sell crap if they were able to produce real LRL. But they are not and need scaming tricks to attract buyers.

Either way you look, mineoro sell crap, not real LRL.

I don't like to promote the Mineoro.
My rule of this thread was to see what is happening between mineoro and Alonso. I wanted to tell what i believe (that Mineoro works but not good because they don't like to make it to work good). Also i wrote that when i had a Mineoro i never found anything. From the other side Alonso makes many LRL who works but there are many people who bought from him and did not work.
Very simple i am looking for all the true...

[Geo]

Hi

The objects found there after Master Alonso return home are ancient and some modern too,this was what everybody aspect to find with FG90,but not the low gold karat cheap jewellry located by Alonso ,this objects was probaly insert in the ground (very fast )by Patricia when some kind of transmitter was activated to start the MINEORO beeps . But this means nothing, for me Damasio & Alonso are the pioneers in LRL circuits and the tricks used are only to atract clients to buy the factory production and create famous for the brand.
Yes,i found a few objects with the DC2008 ,silver coin,a few objects and a golden buckle, but with DC2006 i found only a silver spon,and distances was short, this devices work only with special weather conditions,it is the same if you have a special car that need rainbow days to start the motor,or a lazy horse ...
If they make all MINEORO to behave like this,and have knowledge to make them to work fine in all weather conditions,i realy dont know.


regards

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I agree at all

[Geo]

I agree with Morgan
I think Alonso put the fake targets in the ground and used transmitters to cause the Mineoro locator to make beeps from long distance at his Paris demonstration.
Here are four reasons why I think Morgan is correct:

1. Wrong target found in Paris:
The jewelry they find when Alonso and Patricia are making the demonstration is fake low-carat jewelry that was put in the ground.
This is not same high grade gold and ancient coins which people find in this area.
I believe they also used a transmitter to cause beeps at the FG90 when they were using it to find the fake treasure,
because FG90 cannot find fresh gold from the long distance we see in the Video.
FG90 does not work better than a metal detector for fresh gold.

2. There is more proof - Witness at the Paris demonstration saw FG90 does not work as Alonso demonstrated:
One witness from the French treasure hunting distributor watched them recover the cheap ear ring during the video in Paris.
After he saw this amazing recovery from Alonso and Patricia, sent an email to Morgan to say he bought a Mineoro FG90.
But he became very disappointed when nobody can find amazing detection with the FG90 like they see from Alonso and Patricia.
He can see it is not working as Alonso showed them in his demonstration.
I believe Morgan is correct:
A hidden transmitter caused Alonos's FG90 make beeps to find cheap jewelry that they put into the ground during their Paris visit.

3. Alonso left more more proof that he hides transmitters and buries fake targets.
Robalocarpanda from Mexico told us about a gold bracelet which he recovered when he was with Chacho in 2010.
A photo of this recovery was put in Mineoro facebook when they found it in 2010.
Then two years later, Robalocarpanda watched Alonso make a demonstration in Mexico to convince a customer in 2012.
Robalocarpanda watched Alonso and his factory helpers recover this exact same bracelet from 2010 again to fool a customer to believe they found a new long-time buried treasure.
They found Alonso's transmitter at this place where he made the fake demonstration in Mexico in 2012.
See Robalocarpanda's report of this fraud demonstration here: http://www.longrangelocators.com/for...&postcount=141

It is not possible for this bracelet to be buried there in 2012 unless Alonso or Chaco or Filipe put it there, because it was already recovered in 2010.
The proof is on the Mineoro facebook photo here: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...e=1&permPage=1
See the photo that Mineoro posted to show this bracelet was recovered in 2010, not in 2012!

It is also certain that the Alonso and his factory team brought the transmitter to this demonsration, which the Mexican team discovered later.
Transmitters are not naturally found beeping in the treasure hunting areas of Mexico unless someone puts them there.
The words of Robalocarpanda who originally found that bracelet with Chacho in 2010: "...the bracelet is lie"

4. -- More proof:
According to the witnesses report, Alonso admitted that he put another transmitter in the ground at the time when he stole the gold from the Mexican team,
to fool them so they would believe the gold is still in the ground after he took it away.
Here is the transmitter they found when they discovered that Alonso stole their gold:

Alonso hidden transmitter is discovered:


This is not a fraud that Mineoro will do only on rare occasions - This is the standard business method for Mineoro.
Hidden transmitters, fake targets, and other tricks are Mineoro's standard method to convince customers that their locators are really working as amazing LRLs.
They sell crap LRLs. And they use tricks to convince people that their equipment will find small targets from long range.
Mineoro has been using tricks and fake targets to fool people from before the time when Morgan visited their factory in 2007 and discovered their fraud.
Morgan has the correct idea to believe that Mineoro factory people use hidden transmitters, fake targets, and other tricks to fool customers.


Best wishes,
J_P

Hi J_P.
I agree at 3 and 4.
But i don't at 1 and 2.

Nobody saw Patricia to put the ear ring to the ground. Also there are times that we see patricia and Alonso to have free their hands when mineoro beeps. Also it is not possible for me to syncro so well the beep with a button of a transmitter. Yesterday i ask a friend who has a FG80 and he found few objects how he "see" the video at Paris. He told me that it is ok because when he found silver objects the signal was so clear and some times with double beep.
In the case of the Hugo "Robalocarapanda", yes Alonso used a hidden transmitter to steal the gold but also hugo wrote that he found 3 gold coins with the Mineoro.
As for fresh gold..... this is a real crap. They don't locate fresh gold as a metal detector but very very worse...

Regards

[Qiaozhi]

The objects found there after Master Alonso return home are ancient and some modern too,this was what everybody aspect to find with FG90,but not the low gold karat cheap jewellry located by Alonso ,this objects was probaly insert in the ground (very fast )by Patricia when some kind of transmitter was activated to start the MINEORO beeps . But this means nothing, for me Damasio & Alonso are the pioneers in LRL circuits and the tricks used are only to atract clients to buy the factory production and create famous for the brand.

You must ask yourself a simple question:
If the FG90 worked as advertised, would there would be any need to use tricks to create a "famous brand"? Such deception serves only to create an "infamous brand".

Also, maybe nobody saw the demonstrators put the cheap jewelery into the ground, but (of course) that is why it's called sleight of hand. You're not supposed to see it.

[humhum]

Hi to All
Before one year my home made Mineoro LRL (so like PDC210) was not work in winter day , but now I found new method for search into humidity and now works very best in winter day without problem.

Regards.

[humhum]

About the MINEORO circuits,i agree,this is a LRL,if Alonso limits the power in the receiver,this is a good question...
One friend who search with him told me Alonso make many gold finds near him,without tricks,but he uses the TESLA LRL,and he never sold TESLA at MINEORO factory,seems it is a handmade only for the known elite of TH.

Regards

Hi Morgan, with how method works TESLA LRL , do you know how is Tube inside of Tesla LrL sensor. Do use Tesla LRL Tx , Rx , coil or IR light ?

[Geo]

Hi Morgan, with how method works TESLA LRL , do you know how is Tube inside of Tesla LrL sensor. Do use Tesla LRL Tx , Rx , coil or IR light ?

It works like PI!!!!
A tesla coil produce hight voltage. At off condition there is a Rx coil with a amplifier......

[Geo]

You must ask yourself a simple question:
If the FG90 worked as advertised, would there would be any need to use tricks to create a "famous brand"? Such deception serves only to create an "infamous brand".

Also, maybe nobody saw the demonstrators put the cheap jewelery into the ground, but (of course) that is why it's called sleight of hand. You're not supposed to see it.

Maybe you did not read all from start.
Alonso don't like to give a workable lrl. If all the lrl works then after short time a lot of factories will construct clones.....
We have some examples where he made workable lrls, so he have the "know how".
This was the reason that i opened this thread......
From one side we see lrls that works and from the other we see some crap.....

[Qiaozhi]

Maybe you did not read all from start.
Alonso don't like to give a workable lrl. If all the lrl works then after short time a lot of factories will construct clones.....
We have some examples where he made workable lrls, so he have the "know how".
This was the reason that i opened this thread......
From one side we see lrls that works and from the other we see some crap.....

Actually I did read it all from the start. However, I do not buy the idea that Alonso doesn't like to make a workable LRL. If this were true, then why bother to travel all the way to France to perpetrate a deception?

Everything seems to point to the fact that these devices do not actually work as advertised. That's the reason for the deception. You can continue to believe that it's all about protecting the idea, but the truth is that it's all just nonsense.

[humhum]

Full sensitive

I think that (maybe) when Alonso uses Mineoro , uses extra any thing as I use in the winter days for good sens , and many people know what that is.

Regards.

[humhum]

Tesla Tube inside.

It works like PI!!!!
A tesla coil produce hight voltage. At off condition there is a Rx coil with a amplifier......

Master Geo, Do you have (Tube inside) photos of Tesla LRL ?
If you have Please send me.

husoasil@mynet.com


Regards.