Terra Gold LR 200 (video)

[michael]

Terra Gold LR 200 is an long range detector for electronic dowsing with 6 frequency presets to search gold, silver, brass or cooper and cavity. You can choose one frequency preset at a time.

We can check the distance and depth of research by the sensitivity key, which depends on the quantity of the target and the ability of the operator and it can reach up to 2.500 meters and 6 meters depth. The various options are made from tactile keys, lighting the corresponding red led indicator.

The Terra Gold LR 200 is easy to use. Each time we press a tactile key the red led indicator lights and also the led of the choice we made.

There is the possibility of checking the battery voltage from the corresponding tactile key with indicators leds.

LR 200 is assembled in 10 seconds and consists of three parts, the main unit, the two removable BNC antennas for transmit / receive and the removable handle.

Video with English subtitles



http://www.terra-gold.com

http://www.terragold.gr

Again an ordinary swiveling gadget. no new thing. What a funny-ridiculous movie, demonstrates nothing, only show of Ideomotor effect nothing else. Even if it uses the best oscillator cannot do especial work. You imagine; even in a mild windy condition it’s a real trash.

[Dell Winders]

LRL-200 don't try to enhance the operator's Psychic ability, it has inside a signal generator. The only difference with your systems is that your systems transmitting via the ground and the LR200 transmitting via the air. All the other philosofy is the same.

NOT TRUE! I introduced the use of the AIR MODE for Frequency Generators in 1987 but NOT a FG mounted on a Swivel Handle. It's been included in my Instruction manual ever since. Any LRL can be used in an AIR MODE, or a GROUND MODE. The AIR MODE is preferable for distance and the initial survey of a potential site.. The GROUND MODE has more physics limitations but can provide additional information about a target at close range.

Understanding the limitations of your LRL in the field, and using it accordingly is key to success. Dell

[Dell Winders]

Michael, I agree with you. With respect for your years of LRL testing and field experience you are very knowledgeable.

In light of of all the years of field testing and proving that FG's mounted on Swivel handles are NOT a practical LRL application, I don't understand why manufacturers repeat the same error over and over again and try to push it on a trusting consumer.

I applaud the efforts of inventors with new innovations but the repeat introduction of copy cat versions of a proven impractical LRL application becomes boring. Hopefully, the manufacturer of the LR-200 can do better than this. Dell

[Dave J.]

L-rods are gravity detectors. If they were responding to something emanating from the target, the people who design them would provide a counterbalance so you're not having to fight ideomotor response every step of the way. An ordinary example of a swivelling apparatus that does detect something at a long distance other than gravity, and is therefore counterbalanced, is the magnetic compass.

As it is, of all the swivelling LRL's (and dowsing rods) out there, the number which are counterbalanced to eliminate gravitational pull is .........ZERO!

The number which are aerodynamically balanced to eliminate the effect of wind....... ZERO.

The number the electronics of which have something to do with detecting buried objects other than sondes used for fraudulent demos....... ZERO.

This newfangled swiveller is just another LRL swiveller, copying ideas off the Internet from other LRL's, it's not like he came up with something new out of the clear blue sky! Since he is obviously familiar with LRL's, that means he's read the forums and knows the things are frauds.

He knows for a fact that his gadget will not detect an otherwise unknown object, that's why he's not going to offer a credible demo of his gadget doing that.

Geo, the guy knows exactly the same thing that the "skeptics" do, the only difference is that he's decided to go into the business knowing what it really is, whereas the "skeptics" have enough ethics to not get into that business even though they have all the knowledge needed to get into the business. After all, we've had plenty of good teachers how it's done: Mineoro, Chuckie, Thomas, Yocum, and (yep) even Dell.

So, how's the guy not a fraudster? Greece is in a desperate economic situation, and when people get desperate they do things to make a buck that otherwise they probably wouldn't do. If I lived in Greece and was getting desperate, maybe that'd be me you see in that video. Maybe I'd do exactly as that guy did. And it would be fraud. Therefore it's fraud when he does it.

That having been said...... If anyone having been informed what the thing is still wants to buy it with their own money (not someone else's), they have my blessing! "Darwin's Law".

If they prefer the Dell apparatus with the separate "transmitter", well, anyone reading this forum knows where to buy that. Hey, Dell's gotta eat, too.

--Dave J.

[Dell Winders]

WOW! All this from a guy who pretends he is a cute little dog that chews on curtains. Another example of WEIS!

Dave J, as usual you are barking up the wrong tree. As a fraudster your self, you demonstrate your hypocrisy. Your BELIEF that the common L-Rod, whether used in a Mental Dowsing application, or a physics application LRL) has to be balanced is ludicrous, and shows your total ignorance of the subject.

In my own instructions there are numerous pages stressing the point that the tips of the L-Rods have to be pointed at least 15 degrees off level, toward the ground. Many of my customers have to point the tips of the Rods pointing at their toes to obtain an interpretable reaction of the L-Rods with out the twisting of the hands, wrists, or arms to make the Rods move.

Now,my friend, you, or any skeptic, point the tips of the Swivel handle L-Rod in front of your toes and see how far, and visually obvious you have to twist your wrists to get the Rods to work against the force of gravity and cross. Yet, with the Swivel Rods LRL application there is only a normal minute movement of the hands and wrist and the Rods cross on their own, against gravity. Take a video and show us how you can do this without any visible Ideomotor response?

If the LR-200 Discriminated, and detected the direction of the discriminated target without having to be balanced displaying the obvious Ideomotor controlled Dowsing response, with the antenna pointed down at least 15, or more degrees, working against gravity, then they have a properly working LRL with it's own inherent physics limitations which should be understood and worked accordingly by the operator.

Dave, go put on the pointed cap and sit in the corner. Dell

[Dave J.]

here's another video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gzEy24z9Ts

The guy sure knows how to demo an LRL!

--Dave J.

[Dave J.]

Dave J, as usual you are barking up the wrong tree. As a fraudster your self, you demonstrate your hypocrisy. Your BELIEF that the common L-Rod, whether used in a Mental Dowsing application, or a physics application LRL) has to be balanced is ludicrous, and shows your total ignorance of the subject. Dell

Dell, show a little reading comprehension, please! I have been completely clear that the common L-Rod MUST NOT be balanced, because if it's balanced, that'll stop it from working! This is a matter on which "skeptics" and manufacturers alike (yourself included) have always agreed, I don't recall anyone ever disputing it.

Meanwhile if anyone reading this thread suspects that standalone LRL's are worthless and believes that a separate transmitter is needed to get effective operation, by all means buy one (with your own money)-- from good ol' Dell, made in the USA!

(Sorry admins, I hope that's not too much marketing.)

--Dave J.

[Dave J.]

IN MY EXPERIENCED OPINION; (Critique by Dell)

DOWSING, is the optimum word here as it is well demonstrated in the video by the physical body movements of the operator controlling the reactions and pointing directions of the LR-200.

By definition, DOWSING, is a Mental exercise that is only enhanced by electronics through the power of suggestion and added price to suggest value.

Electronics, provide no practical value to a persons inherent DOWSING abilities.

In my opinion, electronic LRL's mounted on a Swivel handle are a step backward, Not a step forward. Dell

I especially love the part where Dell says "demonstrated in the video by the physical body movements of the operator controlling the reactions and pointing directions". Skeptics and LRL manufacturers of the world, unite! We have nothing to lose but our disagreements on what gainful employment consists of!

--Dave J.

[Dell Winders]

No Dave, you are Wrong Again! Being balanced won't stop the L-rods from reacting but they do require a human connection and a sufficient "Strength of Field".

Several early experiments have shown that when the Swivel Rods are balanced in a wooden vice and a 10 foot lamp cord was attached to the Rods, and the ends of the wires held by one person, another person could hold their hand(s) up to 5 inches away from the tips of the rods and cause them to move right, left, or spin in a circle by the influence of the hand(s)

I have held Gold or silver in my hand, but the movements were the same with, or without a sample being held. From what I know now, I think it is entirely possible that discrimination could be added to these experiments.

Put on the pointed hat and sit in the corner. I read many years ago that Scientist had determined that wearing the tall pointed had actually improved mental faculties. Dell

[Dave J.]

Of course, Dell. It's called "sleight of hand". Either that, or reporting a third hand fiction that never even happened.

You just explained why a balanced L-rod doesn't work-- insufficient field strength. You need that gravitational field to be able to point the sucker, and if you cancel the influence of that field on the rod by counterbalancing it, ya ain't got squat unless you magnetize the rod, in which case you have a magnetic compass that actually does respond to a field.

Everyone knows why there are ZERO counterbalanced L-rods on the market-- it's because everyone knows the damn things won't work! Anybody who thought maybe it would work and gave it a try found out the hard way that it doesn't work, and you have given a description (whether an actual or merely fictional event) of such a learning experience. Despite decades of creativity on the part of experimenters, there are ZERO counterbalanced L-rods on the market. It's because they don't work.

Remember, your salespitch in this thread is that a standalone swiveller LRL is step backwards, and I agree with you. Your salespitch is your separate "transmitter", which is supposed to work ........ with........ NON-counterbalanced L-rods, no surprise there after all!

Dell, it's not smart of you to be defending a counterbalanced L-rod that you neither sell, nor (wisely) have any intention of selling. Think business, man! Pitch the separate transmitter!

--Dave J.

[Qiaozhi]

Several early experiments have shown that when the Swivel Rods are balanced in a wooden vice and a 10 foot lamp cord was attached to the Rods, and the ends of the wires held by one person, another person could hold their hand(s) up to 5 inches away from the tips of the rods and cause them to move right, left, or spin in a circle by the influence of the hand(s)

This is purely hearsay, unless you are able to post a reference to the scientific literature that details these experiments.

Personally though, I suspect that my request will somehow be related to an event involving Hell freezing over.

[Dell Winders]

Qiaozhi, Apparently you are hearing (reading) what I say. So, yes, you are posting hearsay, while I am posting original content.

I try to remain tolerant of your limited mentality to think and do for your self. If I were a degreed Scientist the papers would be published. But, I am not a scientist, at least not in the academic sense.

In the meantime. if you feel you are mentally, or physically, incapable of duplicating the experiments yourself, then go ahead and get out your winter clothing. Dell

[Dave J.]

This is purely hearsay, unless you are able to post a reference to the scientific literature that details these experiments.

Personally though, I suspect that my request will somehow be related to an event involving Hell freezing over.

This is a "read the advertisement" moment, George. Dell already dropped strong hints that:

1. He has no personal knowledge of the supposed experiments.

2. Whatever the results of the supposed experiments were, they were apparently so negative even on the part of those who were doing them, as to warrant no further interest.

In other words Hell already froze over, and the report of the freeze came direct from Florida -- in July.

The answer to the whole thing is right there in Dell's L-rods, which he has proudly described.

Dell, why do you keep arguing against your own L-rods? Be a competent businessman and pitch the separate transmitter!

--Dave J.

[Qiaozhi]

Qiaozhi, Apparently you are hearing (reading) what I say. So, yes, you are posting hearsay, while I am posting original content.

I try to remain tolerant of your limited mentality to think and do for your self. If I were a degreed Scientist the papers would be published. But, I am not a scientist, at least not in the academic sense.

In the meantime. if you feel you are mentally, or physically, incapable of duplicating the experiments yourself, then go ahead and get out your winter clothing. Dell

As I suspected ... Hell is more likely to freeze over before receiving any hard evidence of your so-called experiments. If you don't have any scientific papers as reference, then what other evidence do you have, apart from hearsay? Actually, I don't know why I'm even bothering to ask, as we all know the real reasons why you are unable to grant my request.

Finally, please try your best to be civil. Whenever you find yourself backed into a corner, I've noticed you have a nasty tendency towards personal insults. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, so I suggest you think more carefully before posting.

[Qiaozhi]

This is a "read the advertisement" moment, George. Dell already dropped strong hints that:

1. He has no personal knowledge of the supposed experiments.

2. Whatever the results of the supposed experiments were, they were apparently so negative even on the part of those who were doing them, as to warrant no further interest.

In other words Hell already froze over, and the report of the freeze came direct from Florida -- in July.

The answer to the whole thing is right there in Dell's L-rods, which he has proudly described.

Dell, why do you keep arguing against your own L-rods? Be a competent businessman and pitch the separate transmitter!

--Dave J.

When Dell wrote: "Several early experiments have shown that ...", I assumed he was referring to experiments performed by someone else, and therefore there may possibly (with a following wind) be a remote chance that these so-called experiments could potentially have been documented somewhere. As no proof seems to exist, then Dell's "clamped L-Rod" story resides clearly in the realms of "hearsay".

However, in a different thread, Dell claimed that I am one of Carl's cronies, disrespectful, Carl's puppet, arrogant, ignorant, need to wake up, a scientific pretender, need a reality check, a rabidly biased LRL skeptic, full of self-deception, pathological, totally biased, total (sic) ignorant, constantly ranting, full of irrational suppositions, mentally challenged, and have a limited mental ability.

So what do I know?