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    Science, as usual, is a bit late in their notification, but here you go Carl.

    Anticipated Solar activity will probably affect LRL operation depending what part of the earth is facing the Sun at the time Earth is bombarded with charged particles. Dell

    http://www.nbcnews.com/science/sunsp...ion-2D11875714

    http://www.dellomnitron.com
    "WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, CAN BE DONE"

  • #2
    It was rough yesterday. Couldn't get anything to work most of the day. late afternoon conditions improved. This morning things are pretty much back to normal with a little off and on. Yesterday it was what I call "fuzzy". Just hard to get a lock-on and the signal line seemed to spread out wide and weak.

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    • #3
      I was out practicing about fifteen or twenty minutes ago and conditions went downhill. Looks like the shock wave has hit. Or maybe just the first part of it.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Dell Winders View Post
        Anticipated Solar activity will probably affect LRL operation depending what part of the earth is facing the Sun at the time Earth is bombarded with charged particles. Dell
        The list of excuses just gets longer.

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        • #5
          Maybe scepticism is invading their mind, and self deception is not working as well any more

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          • #6
            Dell has been talking about solar magnetic interference since I've known him and his brochures discussed it since the 1980's.

            As a side note, when I was out this morning the electronic receiver was louder than usual. No, I hadn't charged the batteries and I don't wear a hearing aid. I can tell by how close I have to stand from the transmitter and I was nearly fifty percent further away than usual.

            I was outside this evening and it was nice working in the moonlight on the snow. Conditions are still good. I don't' know what happened this afternoon, the proton count skyrocketed but it didn't last very long. I went out about forty-five minutes later and thing were back to normal. It is my understanding that some of the particles travel faster than others. Don't know much about it, could have been from a previous flare. But it was like yesterday where the signal line was not on. It was there but not in line with the target. Today it actually went dead for a while a few times, and weak and "fuzzy" at other times.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Qiaozhi View Post
              The list of excuses just gets longer.
              If my goal was to sell LRL's, I certainly wouldn't be informing consumers to learn about LRL limitations, before they decide buy.

              I see the forum know it all idiot, is still seeking attention to his scientific pretense.

              No one has to take my word about the effects of Magnetic interference on LRL's. Two of the Scientifically accepted tools I use for LRL DB comparison tests are a proton Magnetometer, and a Tri-Field meter.

              Unlike some here, I don't ignore the facts, or pretend I am Scientific. Anyone here with a bit of intelligence has the same option of conducting their LRL DB comparison tests with the tools I mentioned and learn the truth for themselves. No excuses for the results are needed.They are what they are. Dell
              "WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, CAN BE DONE"

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              • #8
                Mike , as you already know from your own field experience, a fluctuating "Strength of field", affects the LRL Signal causing it to lose detection of the target's SOF, and drift off target.

                In my experience, the time it takes for sufficient operational "strength of field" to return to the target, can be measured in seconds,minutes, hours, or days. I know of no way to predict the longevity of the SMI affect on an LRL operation.

                However, under the "What has already been done, can be done" category, the overriding SOF of SMI surrounding a target field can be blocked electronically, and the Target field can continuously be detected with the LRL without signal drift, or loss of signal during periods of SMI interference.

                Several dozen DB tests has shown this electronic device to be effective. It is not for sale, or intended for sale. Dell

                http://www.dellomnitron.com
                "WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, CAN BE DONE"

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                • #9
                  Dell, what model Tri-Field meter do you use?

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                  • #10
                    Natural EM meter, on Magnetic setting.

                    It's not very sensitive and only measures increases in SMI on the low end pof the scale. For me, below "1" the Rods will work. Above 1.5 the rods will not react.

                    If you contact them, I'm sure they can build you a more sensitive Magnetic meter.

                    Many years ago Bill Floto, built one for me that worked great and easy to use.

                    So again, what has already been done, can be done. Dell
                    "WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, CAN BE DONE"

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                    • #11
                      Thanks Dell. My meter is bouncing around mostly around "1" but now and then it hits "2". Does your meter usually bounce around?

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                      • #12
                        It didn't seem to last. I just checked and the meter was barely moving. However, it did make one jolt and I actually felt it like being on a target just for an instant.

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                        • #13
                          lMike, If you are using the meter indoors it may be too close the electrical alternating current. Try moving the meter to another location stand it on end. Don't hold the meter in your hand or change directions.

                          But yes, a fluctuating strength of field caused from SMI will cause the meter to bounce and an intermittent signal loss. This can happen from one second to the next.

                          You need at least 15 minutes of consistent operating Signal strength to correctly evaluate a target with an LRL. When the signal strength fades in and out you might as well walk away and try again later. Very frustrating and expensive when you travel long distances and have Magnetic Interference. This is why I gave up doing aerial surveys with electronic LRL's in 1989. The cost of renting an aircraft in advance and then loose reception before, or during flight as a result of SMI was too expensive and non productive.

                          With Electronic LRL's, a fluctuating strength of field caused by Magnetic Interference can be recognized when you have to constantly re-tune the device and can't get a consistent target recognition beep for more than a minute or so.

                          Experimenters of Electronic LRL's, on this forum have for years been rewiring and tweaking their circuits, and changing antennas, because their device worked sometimes and not at others, without realizing that their design may not be the problem, but that ever changing operating conditions are.

                          If you want electronic LRL's to work consistently under changing Magnetic conditions, then it will be necessary for the LRL to electronically meter the changing conditions in real time and add automatic tuning (power) to compensate for these changes in Strength of field.

                          When the Meter moves above 1, you are getting interference. Compare the L-Rods reaction with the changes in the meter reading. The lower the meter reads, the stronger the L-Rods react.

                          Good Luck! Dell
                          "WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, CAN BE DONE"

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                          • #14
                            The Rods usually react to the Magnetic conditions a couple of seconds before the meter reacts. As I mentioned, a more sensitive meter would be much better. Dell
                            "WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, CAN BE DONE"

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                            • #15
                              Thanks Dell. I see they sell an external magnifier (10X) coil for $65. The model I have does not have a coil input. I guess you just place the coil near the meter.

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