Real clone Alonso-PD

[folharin]

Friend lrl man.you found object connected omega coil and ferrite or only omega coil?

[LRLMAN]

PD

This sounds good to me andreas we need to start with this and see what happens.

I've seen the videos that you have exposed in your youtube channel about your PD and you can detect some objects and all this is very interesting, I see a video clearly showing the detection of a small magnet and I like a little since my PD also detect a magnet but just to low distance.

Greetings.

LRLMAN.

[LRLMAN]

Posision of ferrite regarding omega coil

Funny post.

Actually I do have an idea to where Dr Hung would place the ferrite.

Hello Fred,

Where you think that Dr. Hung would place the ferrite regarding omega coil???? which type of ferrite? because I believe that he was used a different ferrite that was used by Alonso in hes proyect, because the ferrite Alonso used was two flat ferrites and the used by Hung was rounds.

LRLMAN.

[LRLMAN]

Friend lrl man.you found object connected omega coil and ferrite or only omega coil?

I found some spots and one of them is a metal, i don't know what kind of metal it is, but also was detected by a normal metal detector, this is a big object because was detected by a garrett metal detector with a multipliers for depth Garrett Grand Master Hunter CX II

As I said, I can not know what kind of metal is because it is located below a large round planter and I can not destroy it.

And the PD, must be connected the ferrite-omega together.

The only position of omega working how a metal detector.

LRLMAN.

[ANDREAS]

And the PD, must be connected the ferrite-omega together.

The only position of omega working how a metal detector.

LRLMAN.

No!!! helthkit receiver is important. Later i replace receiver-helthkit with a very-stability new receiver, because, the original helthkit receiver is unstable.

[ANDREAS]

Dimensions between feritte - omega coil.
As you can see feritte is not in the null line of the TX. With experiment you can see feritte-coil has without nulling output signal 150-200mVpp minimum
Regards

[Qiaozhi]

Dimensions between feritte - omega coil.
As you can see feritte is not in the null line of the TX. With experiment you can see feritte-coil has without nulling output signal 150-200mVpp minimum
Regards

Are you saying there is another null point at that location, or is the ferrite being nulled by a separate coil?

[ANDREAS]

Are you saying there is another null point at that location, or is the ferrite being nulled by a separate coil?

I work with your schematic. Attachment pic.
For specific feritte, I use turns in the Plan. I believe they need depending on the magnetic permeability of each feritte we must be experiment with turns. For my clone i use a chinese feritte from AMradio orthogonal 100mm. Yes with microcalibration horizontal axis actually finds a "dead hole" with zero signal. About y axis, i think we need small luck
Now if we find the dead point and put a 4n7 capacitor pararell with L7 we can see omega coil need caps= 1n+6n8 and receiver coil need 1n+1n8 for best resonate all together in xxxKHZ
Upon verification of capacitors that have the same values as the original plan, we are confident that we have created a clone, working with exactly the same values parts.
I repeat again, the big problem is find this "dead point". I believe Alonso knows exactly the frequency and made arrangements in the Act. I have this opinion, because the location has put feritte (real PD) is ....with hot glue.In this case, maybe he knows near zero-point area and he find the best with practice
regards

[Nicolas]

I work with your schematic. Attachment pic.
For specific feritte, I use turns in the Plan. I believe they need depending on the magnetic permeability of each feritte we must be experiment with turns. For my clone i use a chinese feritte from AMradio orthogonal 100mm. Yes with microcalibration horizontal axis actually finds a "dead hole" with zero signal. About y axis, i think we need small luck
Now if we find the dead point and put a 4n7 capacitor pararell with L7 we can see omega coil need caps= 1n+6n8 and receiver coil need 1n+1n8 for best resonate all together in xxxKHZ
Upon verification of capacitors that have the same values as the original plan, we are confident that we have created a clone, working with exactly the same values parts.
I repeat again, the big problem is find this "dead point". I believe Alonso knows exactly the frequency and made arrangements in the Act. I have this opinion, because the location has put feritte (real PD) is ....with hot glue.In this case, maybe he knows near zero-point area and he find the best with practice
regards

Dimensions between feritte - omega coil.
As you can see feritte is not in the null line of the TX. With experiment you can see feritte-coil has without nulling output signal 150-200mVpp minimum
Regards

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Good response Andreas this is the trust and real.
You are the best

[ANDREAS]

A note

Sorry for my false.
I see again schematic publish here #30. I write R50=39K, please replace R50=390k. Original schematic use R50=470K. I find is better work all together with 390K value
regards

[Fred]

Hello Fred,

Where you think that Dr. Hung would place the ferrite regarding omega coil???? which type of ferrite? because I believe that he was used a different ferrite that was used by Alonso in hes proyect, because the ferrite Alonso used was two flat ferrites and the used by Hung was rounds.

LRLMAN.

Well, i think Hung has no clue whatsoever to where to put any ferrite, same as for any technical matter, so my idea about it is non-technical as well and is (perhaps) a secret place.
So to keep it technical, I can say he would probably put it on top of a calculator, or attached to a piece of string and "feel" it pointing to the golden ring or statues he planted nearby.
Nothing useful as you can see...

[Fred]

I work with your schematic. Attachment pic.
For specific feritte, I use turns in the Plan. I believe they need depending on the magnetic permeability of each feritte we must be experiment with turns.

Hi, Andreas,
what do you think about the final principle of it ?
The way you explain it, it look like you are building a very compact kind of two-boxes detector, finding an extremely tiny null, very close to the Tx loop.
Do you think it could be? And that a detector in such a configuration has something special?

[Nicolas]

Hi, Andreas,
what do you think about the final principle of it ?
The way you explain it, it look like you are building a very compact kind of two-boxes detector, finding an extremely tiny null, very close to the Tx loop.
Do you think it could be? And that a detector in such a configuration has something special?

Only to tire people's hands. for both boxes nothing special. and only for gold. ansi we do not know what prices are
I think this is unitul unless it is at least a long range. So it becomes a bit special as traditional.
I'm with you Fred about this quetion

[ANDREAS]

Hi, Andreas,
what do you think about the final principle of it ?
The way you explain it, it look like you are building a very compact kind of two-boxes detector, finding an extremely tiny null, very close to the Tx loop.
Do you think it could be? And that a detector in such a configuration has something special?

Hi Fred
Yes this unit has something special. With this special null, unit detect very easy magnetic piece. My first experiments, unit detect very easy aluminium piece 6 meters distance, 30cm depth (i don't know how old is this alu-piece) and the strange for me.. if detect magnetic-piece unit stop detect magnetic lines from earth.
Joke is ... with perfect calibration all together coils-housing detect one euro ONLY 12CM DISTANCE.
I remember some members say here.. unit can detect a coin 20,30,40..cm distance. Maybe detect capacitor-phenomenon via hands and believes detect coin, because if don't make fine calibration produce this capacitor phenomenon.
For me this unit has many interest points and work same method other unit "name englishPDfor gold"
I try find free time and fine weather for external tests
regards

[GOLDEN LILLY]

Hi Andreas,

Between PD and the Crypton, which is better in terms of range of detection?

Regards...