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  • Originally posted by ANDREAS View Post
    The turns coils on feritte depends on the magnetic permeability of feritte.
    Need for experiments or more luck
    About omega coil , this is a helthkit, my opinion need replace with a better stability schematic. I don't like it

    Ok Andreas then you are saying here that the type of omega inside morgan present of the head PD Alonso should be replaced by another type of TX and RX coils? may be for 2 doble OO?

    Like as showed Esteban in an ancient thread or such as you did in your prototype that worked better?

    like next images:

    Or change the schematic and components???
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    • Andreas,

      I also have doubts about the position of the ferrites with respect to the direction where this points in cloned prototypes, if you look.... all ferrites are always pointing to the wires that going in the direction to the TX and RX omega coil,

      electronically has something to do this for a good detection of this device?

      see next image:
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      • Originally posted by LRLMAN View Post
        Andreas, i have some doubts and confusions, I have a question about this drawing that you present here are the measurements of the small coil that goes inside the omega TX; in this picture I see a TX and if I'm seeing good, it appears that within the circle is the RX coil to 35 mm?

        So where is the small circle of omega TX coil and what measures should have this regarding the large coil TX?

        also should measure 35 mm in diameter?

        because if so then from where the 27.56 mm distance?
        Attachment pdf file.
        Red lines is turns wires. Up for omega coil and down for receiver coil
        Black lines is forms-driver for coils
        regrads
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        crypton's designer

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        • If I good understand Andreas mean this

          the RX is in center of TX? If not correct me
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          God bless all - Nicolas

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          • sizes of OMEGA

            Hi Andreas Sorry for so many questions about, but the questions are many to finish this PD properly and to see if it work or not,.. if not then stop this project.

            although the idea is to start make a different omega which that I have
            to advance in this PD.

            I have some more questions about the omega image:
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            • I think all these questions are very important for making a perfect omega with some accuracy in order to give the PD a high performance.

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              • Today (nw i am out my base), i export a PDFfile scale 1:1 via CAD. You need only print this and you have real dimensions for omega coil and Rx coil
                regards
                crypton's designer

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                • Originally posted by ANDREAS View Post
                  Today (nw i am out my base), i export a PDFfile scale 1:1 via CAD. You need only print this and you have real dimensions for omega coil and Rx coil
                  regards
                  Hey Andreas that sounds much better,

                  Yesterday I connected to PD an Omega coil equal that which morgan exposed in RS for his device but not detected little more distance than the omega I did, only 12 or 15 cms distance for coin similar diameter to 1 Euro

                  OMEGA MORGAN: TX: 5-2-2-5 and RX: 14+14 or 30+30 all magnet wire was to 0.15mm

                  handling this wire is very difficult, this is very thin

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                  • Originally posted by LRLMAN View Post
                    Hey Andreas that sounds much better,

                    Yesterday I connected to PD an Omega coil equal that which morgan exposed in RS for his device but not detected little more distance than the omega I did, only 12 or 15 cms distance for coin similar diameter to 1 Euro

                    OMEGA MORGAN: TX: 5-2-2-5 and RX: 14+14 or 30+30 all magnet wire was to 0.15mm

                    handling this wire is very difficult, this is very thin
                    Attachment PDF files. Print this and you have real dimensions about coils
                    About magnet wire don't need is a myth. Simple coil-wire is enough.
                    On information in the RS forum you believe there is truth;
                    I don't think. I'm sure Morgan and his friends, he gave affairs and opinions, just because .... don't know or they don't build this PD by members (Especially for my person, fear units production). I think they knows only the operating frequency of the original PD and I say this, because, using the same frequency in PDK
                    Regards
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                    crypton's designer

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                    • 12+3+5+12

                      Hi Andreas Sorry for so many questions about AlonsoPD.
                      Can you explain please how to connected omega tx coil for transmiter. Transmitter board on the 3 pole for Omega coil ,this is 5 pole 12+3+5+12
                      Best regards..

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                      • Originally posted by ayoni03 View Post
                        Hi Andreas Sorry for so many questions about AlonsoPD.
                        Can you explain please how to connected omega tx coil for transmiter. Transmitter board on the 3 pole for Omega coil ,this is 5 pole 12+3+5+12
                        Best regards..
                        I think same this
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                        God bless all - Nicolas

                        << My channel >> << My shop >>

                        Please do not demand Private Messages .... I cant reply all here....For more information you can send me email ....Thank you for understanding

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                        • Hi Nicolas ,
                          Thank you very much for reply...İt is same vlf detector..maybe..
                          All the best....

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                          • Thanks ANDREAS and Friends
                            No matter how the speed of light is high , Darkness is one step ahead .

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                              frequency l1[uh] L1 L2

                              40KHZ-100KHZ 60MH 4500TURNS 45turns
                              150khz-450khz 4mh 550turns 20turns
                              1mhz=3mhz 100uh 65turns 7turns

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                              • Hi Andreas
                                I wanted start to produce the PCBs and have a question for the transmitter PCB.

                                In the schematic, is a resistor R7 drawn, but on the PCB is it not available.
                                Is that right?

                                Best Regards


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