False News of Mineoro

[hung]

Well this confirms you really detected somehting. And something big.
But to me it's so awkward that after you detected 3 tons of gold you still worry about assaying Mineoro...???

This is sure a bizarre attitude..You might question their prices but not their attitude. There's not a single 'suspicion behaviour' form their part in this case.
Besides, after making millions now, you question the 8k bucks price?
There are detectors 3 times this price which finds nothing...

[hung]

Well this confirms you really detected somehting. And something big.
But to me it's so awkward that after you detected 3 tons of gold you still worry about assaying Mineoro...???

This is sure a bizarre attitude..You might question their prices but not their attitude. There's not a single 'suspicion behaviour' form their part in this case.
Besides, after making millions now, you question the 8k bucks price?
There are detectors 3 times this price which finds nothing...

Funny,

Re-reading his first and last email, I am not sure now he did find something. It's a little obscure. Even his reply to Mineoro was not totally clear.
My only question:

Did he find something or not?

[Esteban]

What implicates to found treasure in Iran with metal detector, no accidentally?

[michael]

Inexcusable deed

... in answer to michael; do you really know iran? you suppose I am from farse, kerman, markazi or tehran province what differs?...

I told know somewhat not complete. Yes I know somewhat and have some friends there.OK . it seems you are Iranian. As I have heard frequently; Archeologists believe Iran is the heaven of archaeology and more than it have heard is the land of big lost treasures.
When I read the news you posted for mineoro (3 big jar…) never was astonished.
Of course I contemplated about the weight of target was questionable. because the density of gold is 19.3 g/cm3 it means ;when you have a 50 Cm3 cube full of 24-alloy gold it weighs about 482.5 KG. although you did one inexcusable deed and flat joke.
I agree with you in this part; they shouldn’t have put the sent reports in their site without paying much attention and not repeat again, though whenever one sends such an e-mail to a firm, they will put this good news in their site. It's natural.
I am seriously and willingly tracking news about the latest model being advertised is free of any kind of error or operating limitation. I hope be so and myself send a delightful news among with documents to mineoros although have complaint to their suggested price.

[michael]

... the density of gold is 19.3 g/cm3 it means ;when you have a 50 Cm3 cube full of 24-alloy gold it weighs about 482.5 KG...

Oh, excuse me, I correct it :when you have a 50 Cm3 cube full of 24-alloy gold it weighs about 2412.5 KG .

[hung]

Honesty is always the greatest treasure of all

By now I think it's clear this guy faked a real finding.
What reasons might be that led him to do that will remain unknown but this act contributed to worsen his reputation as a trustable person.
Bellow is part of an email Patricia of Mineoro sent me and I must say that any corporation is subject to the honesty and also the dishonesty of most of their customers regarding their degree of satisfaction unfortunately.

When a person lies, he or she is first lying to him/herself.
This fact will not make a single scratch to Mineoro's reputation. I know how serious they are and I also contacted many people listed on the site who recovered things before I had my detector. And they are for real.
Bellow is the confirmation that every info is checked before displayed at the site.

Dear Fernando,

We will retrieve the false information communicated by Mr. Zamani from our site without further explanations.
Who is that person to state that our website is "under suspicion" or something of the like?
What is his authority to do that? When it was he, himself who gratuitously provided the false information, which was appropiately checked at the time with specific questions about the details of his finding, distance, depth, difficulties he encountered, conditions. With specific questions about his privacy requirements. Everything that person requested was taken into account as we always do with the clients´ requirements and just the bare information was published.

[Ebr_z2002]

I am right

Who is that person to state that our website is "under suspicion" or something of the like? What is his authority to do that?
When I wrote are under suspicion is due to their meaningless production line.
you see in less than half year they have introduced various models.everyday one model.
an interesting aspect is when produce a new model tell it is the best, it is ..... all lies. the day after new introduced will be the best....
you see these results I selected from my archive.
object (Gold hair brooch)
1- MT2006 60% No electric net nearby ........................... 190.30 yds / 174 metros
2- DM42 50% No electric net nearby ........................... 158.60 yds / 145 metros
3- GDM428 70% No electric net nearby ........................... 222 yds / 203 metros
4- GDP538 100% No electric net nearby ........................... 317.10 yds / 290 metros
5- DC2006 Electric net nearby ............................... 185.90 yds / 170 metros
6- DC2008 No Electric net nearby ............................ 185.90 yds / 170 metros
compare models.think a little. if Gdp538 was 100% why produced another things? the newest model(Dc200strength is less than some old models !!!!!!!!!!!

Object Gold Ring with Diamond
The Directional MINEORO® research 5,4 more time!
Models FG78 and DC2006.It located the same ring at 8.858feet /2.70m or more depth.
Models FG78 and DC2006. It detected a ring at 21.87yds / 20m distance.
The Directional MINEORO® research 5,4 more time!
Models FG80/FG79 and DC2008. It located the same ring at 8.858feet /2.70m or more depth.
Models FG80/FG79 and DC2008. It detected a ring at 21.87yds / 20m distance.
Object Gold Mine. Weight The stone contains of ½ grams of gold
Model FG78. It located a gold stone at 3.937feet / 1.20m or more depth.
Model FG78. It detected a stone at 9.843yds / 9m distance.
Model FG80/FG79. It located a gold stone at 3.937feet / 1.20m or more depth.
Model FG80/FG79. It detected a stone at 9.843yds / 9m distance.
when compare see no difference between fg78,79,80.??!!!
and here;
Treasure: Gold 4,409lbs / 2.000kg.
- 2 Gold snakes statues...
- 2 Gold boxes...
DC2006 detected from 720m, fg78 from 800m, Dc2008 from 840m, fg79 from 1080m, fg80 from 1200m.
see a bold difference.they certainly tell cause is target size.

and this is the most ridiculous;
at same date distinctive targets detected by 2 different models;
Date 04/13/2006
Finding Gold ring with ruby Detector Metal detector - DC2006 Distance 65.62yds / 60m
Depth 27.56in / 70cm Weight 0.009921lb / 4,5g
Finding Silver coin - Carlos IV Detector Metal detector - DC2006 Distance 32.81yds / 30m Depth 19.69in / 50cm
Date 04/13/2006
Finding Gold ring with ruby Detector Metal detector - DC2007 Distance 65.62yds / 60m
Depth 27.56in / 70cm Weight 0.009921lb / 4,5g
Finding Silver coin - Carlos IV Detector Metal detector - DC2007 Distance 32.81yds / 30m Depth 19.69in / 50cm
when compare all above first thinking is all these models were produced at the same time.i.e no significant difference between
old and new models.i.e. when they had pdc205 had fg80 it is possible the box components in pdc205 is equal to fg80.
how they know it's gold hair brooch and at different times detected it by various models?!!wherease were able to detect
old buried targets!! and so for other objects were compared for other models.

They lying is clear but cannot tell a neat lie.
one day GDP538 is 10 times more sensitive than pdc210. after it DC 2006 more sensitive than GDP538.
and continues; DC2007, Dc2008, Fg78,79,89 and may be goes to.....FG8000. when really will finish?
Is here anybody have seen this speed of progress in specific technology or one company had this speed?(except to mineoro)
they have quized technology.
suppose their claims be right,why so much expensive?
one day they bought pdc210 4950 $ and now 9000$. it is really ridiculous.

[hung]

Who is that person to state that our website is "under suspicion" or something of the like? What is his authority to do that?
When I wrote are under suspicion is due to their meaningless production line.
you see in less than half year they have introduced various models.everyday one model.
an interesting aspect is when produce a new model tell it is the best, it is ..... all lies. the day after new introduced will be the best....
you see these results I selected from my archive.
object (Gold hair brooch)
1- MT2006 60% No electric net nearby ........................... 190.30 yds / 174 metros
2- DM42 50% No electric net nearby ........................... 158.60 yds / 145 metros
3- GDM428 70% No electric net nearby ........................... 222 yds / 203 metros
4- GDP538 100% No electric net nearby ........................... 317.10 yds / 290 metros
5- DC2006 Electric net nearby ............................... 185.90 yds / 170 metros
6- DC2008 No Electric net nearby ............................ 185.90 yds / 170 metros
compare models.think a little. if Gdp538 was 100% why produced another things? the newest model(Dc200strength is less than some old models !!!!!!!!!!!

Object Gold Ring with Diamond
The Directional MINEORO® research 5,4 more time!
Models FG78 and DC2006.It located the same ring at 8.858feet /2.70m or more depth.
Models FG78 and DC2006. It detected a ring at 21.87yds / 20m distance.
The Directional MINEORO® research 5,4 more time!
Models FG80/FG79 and DC2008. It located the same ring at 8.858feet /2.70m or more depth.
Models FG80/FG79 and DC2008. It detected a ring at 21.87yds / 20m distance.
Object Gold Mine. Weight The stone contains of ½ grams of gold
Model FG78. It located a gold stone at 3.937feet / 1.20m or more depth.
Model FG78. It detected a stone at 9.843yds / 9m distance.
Model FG80/FG79. It located a gold stone at 3.937feet / 1.20m or more depth.
Model FG80/FG79. It detected a stone at 9.843yds / 9m distance.
when compare see no difference between fg78,79,80.??!!!
and here;
Treasure: Gold 4,409lbs / 2.000kg.
- 2 Gold snakes statues...
- 2 Gold boxes...
DC2006 detected from 720m, fg78 from 800m, Dc2008 from 840m, fg79 from 1080m, fg80 from 1200m.
see a bold difference.they certainly tell cause is target size.

and this is the most ridiculous;
at same date distinctive targets detected by 2 different models;
Date 04/13/2006
Finding Gold ring with ruby Detector Metal detector - DC2006 Distance 65.62yds / 60m
Depth 27.56in / 70cm Weight 0.009921lb / 4,5g
Finding Silver coin - Carlos IV Detector Metal detector - DC2006 Distance 32.81yds / 30m Depth 19.69in / 50cm
Date 04/13/2006
Finding Gold ring with ruby Detector Metal detector - DC2007 Distance 65.62yds / 60m
Depth 27.56in / 70cm Weight 0.009921lb / 4,5g
Finding Silver coin - Carlos IV Detector Metal detector - DC2007 Distance 32.81yds / 30m Depth 19.69in / 50cm
when compare all above first thinking is all these models were produced at the same time.i.e no significant difference between
old and new models.i.e. when they had pdc205 had fg80 it is possible the box components in pdc205 is equal to fg80.
how they know it's gold hair brooch and at different times detected it by various models?!!wherease were able to detect
old buried targets!! and so for other objects were compared for other models.

They lying is clear but cannot tell a neat lie.
one day GDP538 is 10 times more sensitive than pdc210. after it DC 2006 more sensitive than GDP538.
and continues; DC2007, Dc2008, Fg78,79,89 and may be goes to.....FG8000. when really will finish?
Is here anybody have seen this speed of progress in specific technology or one company had this speed?(except to mineoro)
they have quized technology.
suppose their claims be right,why so much expensive?
one day they bought pdc210 4950 $ and now 9000$. it is really ridiculous.

Hey EZ,
I see you show up again. And now you sound upset.
Regarding your questions, you chose to answer them and you answered them wrong.
You claim Mineoro did not check your information, etc.
But you did not check their explanations upon the ionic phenomena, otherwise you would know the correct answers to your questions.

The reason the distance seem to dimish regarding the models specified is simply because the measurements were taken is different times of year and the ionic field in those times are greater or....lower in intensity. You will see that the new models actually detects longer than the previous ones.
The GDP measurement for instance was taken during summer in S. America.
Yes, you guesse. Ionic fields with high intensity allowing longer detection.
The DC2008 for instance was taken aftermarch with ionic fields low and humidity high.
So Mneoro's comparison charts were put absolutely correct and honest.

Now I have a question for you.
Why not taking your PDC210 to the field where according to Michael there's a true 'ElDorado' there insteda of wasting your time trying to 'catch' Mineoro?

[michael]

Keep patience.

Mr. EZ.
I suggest you keep patience and don't judge so slapdash.
some of your comparisons were in my mind, but as dear Hung said those have
reasonable answers. I believe in and trust him and am waiting for his latest results.
from these comparisons can't conclude they are "under-suspicion".
you have before said they aren't bad people and I think so.
we are impatiently waiting for these nice guys reports of the latest production. with hope to not being any limitation will order it.
I swear am not from America or southern America, I am from Middle east as well. please trust me.
As Hung mentioned would you like to cooperate in a treasure hunting project by your PDC210? If yes, send private message.
We own some good & reliable ancient maps (some are from your country).

[Ebr_z2002]

You did not answer me.

Hi. Oh no. what reasonable answers??
suppose you are righ,you did not answer to these;
first- why a particular object(Gold hair brooch) detected by different models at
different dates? unless yhose models detected only old buried? I.e. when discovered
by MT2006 not possible to be discoverd again by GDP538 or dc2008.hummm??
how they detect a particular object at different times and dates by various models???!!!!

second- hung wrote; … is simply because the measurements were taken is different times of year and the ionic field in those times are greater or....lower in intensity
what about results for dc2006 & 2007 at same date(04/13/2006) for particular targets detected by these models without any difference? No difference in results!!!
Means at least no different between dc2006 & 2007. read my above post again and yourself compare.

finally. michael, I never had from mineoro devices. For that cannot do any project and am not interested in your maps we have many of ancient maps, but in this world is not even one useful detector to become successful. The swindelers ; WHITS, GARRET, FISHER, MINELAB, TESORO,….. only produce Useless toys and waste our money,life and nerves. we always here tell god damn all of them. do not know if mineoro is like them or not. if not is a magic.

[sony]

Like a hell ...


This post is dedicated to
Ebr z2002 , Leto , Robert , Ivconic , Carl and other smart and clever people here , on
this forum also Geo,KT315, J Player , Qiaozhi and others....
but NOT TO "beleivers",promoters, frauds and simillar...
Such argue,retorics and efforts to try to convince the oposite side has done
nothing productive so far and it will not in the future !
The reasons of that are very transparent: those people comes here not to take
a part in this forum and be productive, not to post here some proofs and some
usefull things so we, others can use it, no not at all! Those people come here
and bug,bash,spoil everything here, also trying to promote lies,frauds and of
course, trying to provide some of more naive suckers for their gang, so that
mineoro toys can be soled worldvide, and a good money can be earned.That is the
only truth.
Trust me, the best way to deal with those people here is to DISREGARD all their
posts!Sooner or later they gonna realize that is no use of them being here any more.
Just let them to continue with such funny posts, posting so much funny pics here,
convincing each other that their fairy tales are true...ha,ha,ha !!! At the begining
i was pissed of, but now i am very relaxed visiting this kind of threads.Whenever i
want to laugh on stupids and imbeciles i come here!I even download those posts and
spread amongs my frieands like unique joke. Everybody laugh on it!
This type of thread becomes a place where you can meet "look-like" people and for the
future to know very well with who you might be talking on some subject, if is...
Like a gheto. They all come here, so you do not need to make any effort to mark them
on some other threads and forums.
If some further reply's on this post, just to let you know that this kind of post here
is just quite enough competent and usable as some previous posts here about some false
reports and some finds, so i DO HAVE FULL RIGHT TO EXPRESS MY ATTITUDE HERE ALSO TO
CONTRIBUTE HERE WITH MY OPINION, THE SAME RIGHT, AS SOME PEOPLE HERE USED TO POST THEIR
LIES HERE, OFFENDING OUR INTELIGENCY EVERY TIME THEY SHOWS HERE !!!
So i am gonna disregard any further reply on this here...

"About 2 months ago I wrote an e-mail for mineoro that was fundamentally hollow (3 BIG JAR
FULL OF COINS).I wrote it only to assay their reaction to excavating news by their devices.
except to some ordinary questions they didn't survey carefully about the report accuracy
and at once put it in their site. if they thought a little would find out 3-big jar full of
coins weighs much more than 3000 KG not 500 KG.of course it indicates nothing against their
production or if their devices work or not.But they put every positive and no-documentary
report in their site then other claims about founds are probably unreliable.
It was my partner plan to send such e-mail to mineoro then I apologize from all of you .
I wrote this under my conscience pressure...."
Ebr z2002 CONGATULATIONS !!!!!! You are champion !!!
"...of course it indicates nothing against their production or if their devices work or not."
Their devices work for real....but only in their dreams !!! Trust me!

If you want to check some serious manufacturer just send something simillar to them.
For example send some simillar mail to White's or Garrett or Fisher.....
This kind of jokes can "do the job" only to "manufacturer" like mineoro (i am not using capital
"M" at all, when mentioning that name), simply because they do not have any material proof
at all for their devices to work.They only rely on others support, like here on these threads.
It is very easy to fool them, when ever you want! Only "blind" people can not see that!

Leto come here again, join us sceptics, let's togather fight against frauds! Let push them out
of this excell forum for good! Let this forum be our oasis, without any trash at all!
They already spoiled so many places on the .net so far! Let preserve at least this place clean!
On every of their nonsence post here, we can answer with one of ours! Let's fight!
Let's just bug and bash them so much to push them to leave this place for good!
NO MORE LIES !!! NO MORE FRAUDS !!! GO TO HELL "BELEIVERS" !!!
best regards to "sceptics"
and
to beleivers:
VAI SE FODER PARA SEMPRE!!!
CVETE A LA MIERDA PARA SIEMPRE!!!
Cojo a madre del yor usted los fraudes!!!
Eu fodo a măe do yor vocę frauds!!!

[J_Player]

The Bottom Line....

I agree that it may be possible for LRL detectors to work. But the bottom line is:

Why is there no person on the entire earth willing to demonstrate a LRL machine working in front of our eyes, same as other metal detectors are demonstrated in front of our eyes?

Until someone is willing to show us a LRL work, then nobody will belive these machines. You want us to believe your machine is a good machine? it is easy. Show us a demonstraton of it working in front of us. No more b.s. stories obout treasure 20 years ago.

[michael]

Hi Comely Sony (robert).

Let's just bug and bash them so much to push them to leave this place for good! NO MORE LIES !!! NO MORE FRAUDS !!! GO TO HELL "BELEIVERS" !!! best regards to "sceptics"

I should change it regards to "rational skeptics". It seems this guy (sony) is the one, Robert .his tone look-alikes thoroughly to robert; disrespectful and arrogant.
One day one junior member in robert name comes and stings others, when becomes notorious for his tone and lies goes to another name that it's also a junior member and continues his habits. Yesterday with robert name today with SONY , tomorrow with PANASONIC, JVC,… names. Where were you robert (sony)? We really missed you. How about your latest results about FG80 you have gotten of your European friends? Come on please , don’t hang us over .
Mr. Sony (robert), Why do you select your favorite parts of Ebr Z2002 comments?
He emits no distinct idea about Mineoro devices, on the other hand isn't sure against mineoro. But does and is sure about those you love. apparently he wills their perdition when he tells;
" We always here tell god damn all of them".
You blow in your horn and summon others as though you are in war. Yes you don’t think of anything more than war in regard to rational arguments. I add here am not Mineoro prejudice proponent,
but know long range distance detection is right and works.

[hung]

Hi. Oh no. what reasonable answers??
suppose you are righ,you did not answer to these;
first- why a particular object(Gold hair brooch) detected by different models at
different dates? unless yhose models detected only old buried? I.e. when discovered
by MT2006 not possible to be discoverd again by GDP538 or dc2008.hummm??
how they detect a particular object at different times and dates by various models???!!!!

what about results for dc2006 & 2007 at same date(04/13/2006) for particular targets detected by these models without any difference? No difference in results!!!
Means at least no different between dc2006 & 2007. read my above post again and yourself compare.

.

I see what you mean.
I've also seen this in the past but did not bother .
My guess is that in the past as the new detectors were being introduced and their webdesginer or so simply used to sub the previous detectors in all site related parts.
I will contact them about this and will get back if some think it's relevant.

About posts like Sony's, I have already been disregarding those in the past and I will not waste my time towards it.
If someone wishes to do so, it's up to them.

[Dell Winders]

Say anything, whether it is true or not is a well used Skeptic cult psychological stratagy to distract and disrupt forum discussions they feel deter from their agenda. It happens in all the forums the cultist are permitted freedom of speech to harass in.

Robert, has already warned of his intentions to bash and harass us until we leave. Others, perhaps aliases, will join the harassament until discussions on the subject can no longer be continued without webmaster intervention. That is why I no longer attempt to share my own field knowledge here because it is disrespected and a waste of my time to do so. This is a skeptic cult forum where disrespect and product bashing is to be expected.

JPlayer, As far as I know, LRL dealers give demonstrations of their products when you go to their place of business, the same as metal detector dealers give demonstrations when you go to their place business. It's up to you to make the appointment. Dell


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