BIONIC ALPHA

[schatzsucher]

schematic:

Here from ebay:
why can i not put a graphic into the post?

[svenax]

Hung:

I know that Mineoro's factory is the greatest in South America and bigger than many factory of USA, no discussion about it.

Aerial view (main factory):

(Sorry for bumping an old thread, but ...)

all the images at the Mineoro site looks suspiciously Photoshopped. I was able to locate the building in the picture using Google maps, and it sure looks a bit different:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=28%C2%B001%27S+48%C2%B036%27W&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=18&ll=-28.047705,-48.639371&spn=0.003229,0.007178&t=k&iwloc=A

I'm not saying that Mineoro is not located here, but it does seem a bit funny, at least to me.

[hung]

I've been there in november last year and the factory is exactly like the one in the picture.
The only difference are the roof tops. Either Google's image is really old or the roof got painted around last november.
It's a real big factory. Not only treasure detectors but detectors for security doors (banks,etc.) and furniture.

[chloe]

bionic 01

does bionic alpha and bionic 01 really works?and locates gold or silver?
in their brochure it has bionic system.what is a bionic system?
is it effective and useful in treasure hunting?


thanks!

[Qiaozhi]

does bionic alpha and bionic 01 really works?and locates gold or silver?
in their brochure it has bionic system.what is a bionic system?
is it effective and useful in treasure hunting?


thanks!

No - it's the usual LRL non-working rubblish.

Do not be fooled by so-called positive results obtained by the dowsing fratenity either. For example, see some more of Dell's unscientific rhetoric below:

Actually, I was impressed with the OKM Rover C deluxe during my short 2 day field testing using my map dowsed locations to compare the OKM results against the X-SCAN, and ZOND 12-c GPR.

As you see, the "positive" results were compared to "map dowsed locations" for confirmation. You have to be completely balmy to believe this nonsense.

[Dell Winders]

Did I fail to mention that the results were compared with the suddenly declared un-scientific, Ground Penetrating Radar? (Zond 12-c GPR, Radar Systems, Inc) Nope! It's there.

I recognize your ignorance. The OKM Rover C operates on scientific accepted E/M principles.

The Alpha, bionic is an unknown factor.

Chloe, you will need to take your questions else where for legitimate answers. There appears to be no intelligent life residing here. Dell

[Carl-NC]

does bionic alpha and bionic 01 really works?and locates gold or silver?
in their brochure it has bionic system.what is a bionic system?
is it effective and useful in treasure hunting?

Probably not. I'm in the process of testing another "ionic" detector, and so far it has all the characteristics of a classic LRL fraud. Besides that, the claimed principles of ionic gold detection are nonsense.

If you still want to consider buying one, I strongly suggest asking the company for references... that is, other people who have bought one. People with real phone numbers and real addresses. Call them and talk to them, ask them what they've found.

I've yet to run across anyone who has actually bought a Bionic locator, so if you would like to be the guinea pig then be my guest!

- Carl

[Dell Winders]

Probably not. I'm in the process of testing another "ionic" detector, and so far it has all the characteristics of a classic LRL fraud.

Oh Really! And where have I ever claimed the Frequency Discriminators, and LRL, I build detect Gold Ions ? Dell

http://www.omnitron.net

[chloe]

carl,Qiaozhi

thanks for the info.we've better tuned to imager.we've already lost millions of pesos on those dowsing instruments,still no treasure only dirt and water.

[Qiaozhi]

thanks for the info.we've better tuned to imager.we've already lost millions of pesos on those dowsing instruments,still no treasure only dirt and water.

Hi chloe,

Thank you for the feedback. Do you have any further information on your firsthand experiences with "those dowsing instruments"?

[chloe]

Qiaozhi

yup.i use L-rods and pendulum.their was another thunting team who hires me to locate their treasures.and my dowsing cross near the mango tree and i hold them that this is it,this is the exact location it only measures around 15 feet.so they dug up they even reach 30+.sad to say they found no treasure.they got upset on me.and i heard they hire another detectorist they use a GPR.and they found what they've looking for at 13+feet(giveaways) depth and 6 meters away from mango tree.and my current thunting leader also lost millions of pesos to with the used of LrL,he even used UAR(universal anderson rod) and vernell brand(no offend to the manufacturer,i only express the truth).and my other members want to buy this bionic 01 as a sort of contribution but told i him that its only an LRL but he insist so i post my message here inorder for him to see the feedbacks.thunting in philippines is different from others,some treasures located at 100+feet.others are lucky they found treasure with the use of dowsing supported by treasure signs and live witness,only small percentage maybe 8% out of 100% which means pure luck.

[Qiaozhi]

yup.i use L-rods and pendulum.their was another thunting team who hires me to locate their treasures.and my dowsing cross near the mango tree and i hold them that this is it,this is the exact location it only measures around 15 feet.so they dug up they even reach 30+.sad to say they found no treasure.they got upset on me.and i heard they hire another detectorist they use a GPR.and they found what they've looking for at 13+feet(giveaways) depth and 6 meters away from mango tree.and my current thunting leader also lost millions of pesos to with the used of LrL,he even used UAR(universal anderson rod) and vernell brand(no offend to the manufacturer,i only express the truth).and my other members want to buy this bionic 01 as a sort of contribution but told i him that its only an LRL but he insist so i post my message here inorder for him to see the feedbacks.thunting in philippines is different from others,some treasures located at 100+feet.others are lucky they found treasure with the use of dowsing supported by treasure signs and live witness,only small percentage maybe 8% out of 100% which means pure luck.

Thanks chloe. It's good to see some feedback here that reflects the reality of LRLs and dowsing. Most dowsers only seem to be able to recall positive experiences, and conveniently forget about the failures. This sort of selective memory is common where pseudoscience is concerned.
Thanks again, and please continue to frequent this forum. Your first-hand knowledge is welcome.

... he even used UAR(universal anderson rod) and vernell brand(no offend to the manufacturer,i only express the truth)

Don't be concerned about upsetting the manufacturers of LRLs and dowsing equipment. We do it all the time here.

[hung]

Thanks chloe. It's good to see some feedback here that reflects the reality of LRLs and dowsing. Most dowsers only seem to be able to recall positive experiences, and conveniently forget about the failures. This sort of selective memory is common where pseudoscience is concerned.
Thanks again, and please continue to frequent this forum. Your first-hand knowledge is welcome.


Don't be concerned about upsetting the manufacturers of LRLs and dowsing equipment. We do it all the time here.

He,he,he,.. You are my favorite skeptic Qiaozhi. Do you know why? Because you are a true 'pseudofreak'. You like to play deaf and blind.
Did you miss this from 'LRL post your finds'? Hmm.. let me guess..

[Qiaozhi]

He,he,he,.. You are my favorite skeptic Qiaozhi. Do you know why? Because you are a true 'pseudofreak'. You like to play deaf and blind.
Did you miss this from 'LRL post your finds'? Hmm.. let me guess..

No - I didn't miss this.

It is subjective evidence, and there is no documented proof of how these items were recovered. At least Esteban is not masquerading as the marketing department for an LRL manufacturer, and the devices he claims to have used have been created by his own hand. Whether there is some self-delusion here or not, I cannot readily say at this time. That's why I asked Esteban if he could post the schematic(s) of the detector(s) he claims to have used.

By the way, I'm not sure what you mean by "pseudofreak". My knowledge is rooted in true science, not the made-up pseudoscientific gobbledygook used by the lovers of LRLs.