Dell's complaints

[Carl-NC]

Carl, Where did I write it's gold detector?!

Ummm... you mentioned in this post that you used it in a test to locate a gold target. Does it detect gold, or not?

Dell frequently had mentioned it is not a gold detector.

OK, I agree with Dell.

When you take a look there see Goldbeam is being claimed as GD not DDL.

No, I don't see any claim that the Goldbeam is a gold detector. Can you show me where this is claimed? Dell, is the Goldbeam a gold detector?

If here some people want not to believe, it's up to them and their problem.

I agree, beliefs are for those who don't know. I own two of Dell's LRLs, and I've tested a third on loan, so I know.

which kind of documents satisfies them? of course nothing.

Oh no, not at all... I have a $25,000 prize if someone, somewhere, can successfully demonstrate an LRL in a very simple test.

Carl, When you state so, what's expectancy of other who audaciously here liken us to gays??

Eh?

You should have been moral and ethical pattern.

Eh?

- Carl

[Dell Winders]

When you take a look there see Goldbeam is being claimed as GD not DDL.

http://treasureamerica.netfirms.com/...t=106&start=15

[Carl-NC]

Hmmm... interesting... a rather vague statement:

The GOLDBEAM DL ... can also serve as a Frequency broadcast transmitter (Gold) generating a discriminated Signal Line to Gold targets, that can be detected with the dual Rods, and nulled with the weight chek.

followed by a rather definitive alibi:

A limitation is that the GOLDBEAM DL reacts strongly to even miniscule amounts of flour Gold and the operator cannot distinguish the difference in the "Feel" or target lock, of a solid Gold target, or a small, insignificant Gold target.

This sounds to me like you would not be able to distinguish a desirable gold target--like a cache of coins--from the individual gold atoms that probably exist in all soil.

But, to nail this down, standard question...

Can the Goldbeam detect a 10-ounce solid gold bar, placed on the ground, at ANY distance more than, say, 5 feet?

- Carl

[Dell Winders]

[Can the Goldbeam detect a 10-ounce solid gold bar, placed on the ground, at ANY distance more than, say, 5 feet?

No! Of course not.

I thought you created this thread for Dell's complaints? Not stupid questions from Carl?

[michael]

Ummm... you mentioned in this post that you used it in a test to locate a gold target. Does it detect gold, or not?

Have you perceived from the post that DDL only detects gold???!!!
Its meaning is obvious.
I mentioned and still repeat it ;
"We composed DDL with our transmitter and could detect every metal (gold ,silver & iron) in specific frequency was set for each; Gold 5.5 Khz, Silver 8.7 Khz , Iron 17.8 Khz"
I detected every place according to Freq. set whereas occasionally I went far from the test place, my partners changed the target places and freq and I came back and start detecting. I never knew what freq is or where is each target. Only by DDL could find the exact place.( of course should be mentioned targets were inserting at 15 feet depth.
By DDL can detect every field and metal or even a location of a well or tunnel in ground. It never classifies or detects specifically. When you hold it in your hand and close your eyes, other makes approach a metal, strongly swivels.
When hold in your hand and walking along and very near the house walls in some points or locations suddenly and strongly rotates and you survey there see oh , here is one of the house metal jamb or electricity cable.
Carl, have you done these tests by DDL? Of course some of your efforts in this field to disclose some fraudulent are appreciable (e.g. Electroscopes, Lectrasearch which are a real trash and I have experienced it) but can’t agree with you about Omnitrone (at least DDL) to be garbage, here you treat prejudicially.
an interesting thing for me was 1 week ago, a friend called me
and asked about omnitrone.... let it be, some bodies here slander me to making a fiction.
Meanwhile Carl, “Eh?” is not a logical answer.

[Carl-NC]

Can the Goldbeam detect a 10-ounce solid gold bar, placed on the ground, at ANY distance more than, say, 5 feet?

No! Of course not.

No, of course not... silly question.

[Carl-NC]

Have you perceived from the post that DDL only detects gold???!!!

Michael, I only said that if the DDL is putting gold in your hand, then use it! I really don't know what point you're trying to make here.

Dell said the DDL is NOT a gold locator. I happen to agree with him, it will not locate gold. I've offered Dell $25,000 if he could demonstrate that any of his LRLs can locate gold... he has consistently refused my offer.

Do you disagree with Dell? Do you think the DDL will locate gold?

Meanwhile Carl, “Eh?” is not a logical answer.

Your statements made no sense...

- Carl

[michael]

Michael, ... Do you think the DDL will locate gold?... Carl

Of course not by its own, but when use with transmitter adjusted in frequency, yes, can. DDL itself can locate every existent field;
metal, cavity, electrical,... when you directly pass over or near them.
Is it obscure?

[Leto]

off-topic for Dell again

Hello Dell.

It is a fact, that it was regarded as Turkey's No.1 archaeological site at the time of the photo.

Maybe for non-Adventist evangelicals among whom Fasold's book has primarily circulated.

It is a fact, Turkey, did publicly proclaim the formation to be the remains of Noah's Ark, as a result of Fasold's report, followed by numerous scientific and archaeological survey's.

Turkey did proclaim this? Who is Turkey? Maybe some Tukish tourist agency. Yes there were scientific surveys some as a result of Fasold's report those primarily from ark-ologists as they call themselves.

Will not debate around ribs, strange positions of anomalies, and drawings of ark from Fasold's book.

Leto, it's logical to assume this formation has existed for at least two thousand years, geologically speaking.

You can assume that, geologicaly speaking 2000 years is NOW.


My view is that Darupinar ark is something like face on Mars, hollow Earth, Elvis alive,...

Sorry Dell I will bother you no more with this off-topic but I understand now how your products work. These are not made for us

Scientific pretenders

but for persons searching arks made some generations after expell from paradise.

Dissected LRL and other (DDL?) instruments on Carls page looks really like crap Try to use more components it will give people better impression (and harder work for Carl when dissecting it) or maybe you should fill whole electronics box with epoxi - you can state somewhere that light corrupts detection or somethin like that.. These are just some suggestions.

[Qiaozhi]

Dissected LRL and other (DDL?) instruments on Carls page looks really like crap Try to use more components it will give people better impression (and harder work for Carl when dissecting it) or maybe you should fill whole electronics box with epoxi - you can state somewhere that light corrupts detection or somethin like that.. These are just some suggestions.

If the LRL manufacturers start using more electronics, it will be more difficult for them to disguise their pseudoscientific mode of operation. When a device only consists of a couple of bent rods and a bit of flim-flam, then all sorts of claims can be made which are difficult to prove/disprove without double-blind testing. This is something that (conveniently) appears to easily upset the paranormal nature of this phenomena.
I do like your thought process though.

[Dell Winders]

O.K. Leto, back to the subject of this thread."Dell's Complaints",
Disrespectful, intellectual pretenders, and uncontrolled ideomotor response mouths.

Leto, you don't have to prove anything to me. I said I wasn't there when the Ark landed. I don't know the facts about the event. If you claim you do know, then there is nothing to debate (argue) about. Dell

[Carl-NC]

Of course not by its own, but when use with transmitter adjusted in frequency, yes, can.

OK, so let's see if I understand... if you use the DDL with a signal generator that is set to a proper frequency, it will detect gold, is that right?

Do you think it can detect a 10-ounce gold bar, laying on the ground right in front of you?

[michael]

OK, so let's see if I understand... if you use the DDL with a signal generator that is set to a proper frequency, it will detect gold, is that right? Do you think it can detect a 10-ounce gold bar, laying on the ground right in front of you?

Yes, that's it. the 10 ounce will be more easy as we made test with 1- ounce gold plate (alloy; 750) at 15 feet depth in natural walls formed in ground. I easily could detect it from 40-60 feet distance. but with 2 L rods never got result.
If you can't believe it what can I do? you believe or not, what’s the benefit for me? make money? no, If you even want to settle 1000000 $ for me I can't receive it. Here situation is thoroughly different of your countries.
When I write these e.g. about DDL is just for the fact is so.

[Carl-NC]

Dell, have you used the DDL with a signal generator? (Maybe this is what the "X-Scan" is? I don't know.)

Would you agree... will the DDL, in combination with a signal generator, detect a 10-ounce gold bar laying on the ground, right in front of you?

[Dell Winders]

I don't know. I've never located a 10 ounce Gold bar with it. Dell