Mineoro FG80

[hung]

Do some serious missions in areas with no need get permission for digging and dig for every beep. If I were you by this time would dug 2 points up to 10 meters depth know what I & my detector have done (Whereas here situation is high stuffy for treasure seeking).

Take it easy buddy. No need to do that. When a target really exists the detector will beep consistently and then the depth is determined. Only then the digging starts.
Also I'm thinking about once I detect small targets around here, leave one or two the way it is, with no digging just to have a reference target for ionic fields status for future comparisons.

Another thing; did you talk with Damasio about their QC policies to preclude what happened about FG78 being repeated for latest models? e.g. I as a customer want to be assured about my received device be thoroughly intact not out of order.

Yes. The problem with the FG78 was that some components used were not reliable regarding values and thus acting completely unstable. This was out of Mineoro's control since they did not manufacture those and upon testing they initially appeared to be normal.
This fact actualy accelarated the lauching of automation for the new detectors, which employed another type of circuitry.
All detectors are full tested, and all compoments are carefully measured and although the same components are used, since the ionic phenomena varies from place to place depending on the time of the year, weather conditions, etc. , it's hard to make a complete analysis of its capabilities.
My opinion is that it would be totally impractical to have each detector ordered remain in testing for say a month or more to check their performance. This is not a limitation of the detector in anyway, it's a limitation on the phenomena which specifically favor particular weather conditions and periods...
A prototype is tested for months and when it's complete, it enters the production phase.
Anyway I believe the new FG series have no problems but if indeed presents any fault it will be switched.
In fact if someone has a FG78 which might be presenting problems, just contact the factory for a switch for a new working model. No need to bash Mineoro for not being able to detect with a faulty device. No one could.
Simply return it for a change. Simple as that.

Again; please don't neglect of my test points,dear friend.

Would you specifically tell me what you want me to do?

[Esteban]

Hi

We found a old pocket clock (gold-plated) with this legend: "System Roskoff". Was with Alonso, models 2006 and 2007, 2 months ago, in ancient train area, no very far, 15 or 20 m, maybe by the humidity, in threes' sector.

[Esteban]

Sorry :o: trees no three.

[michael]

Thank you Hung for your favors. It's good news.
my test points are in page 1 in this subject; 6 points, but 5 of them are more important:
only Num. 1 needs to be buried other can be done easily in air; from distance you did with your ring is enough.
1- Make test for buried different size of fresh gold .
2- If can detect gold when is near iron or any other metal.
3- If can detect gold near dense minerals (like as inside a chalk pack or a mix of chalk 50%+ clay 40% + sand 10%; dry or wet).
4- If can detect gold inside or near a mass of charcoal.
5- If can detect a medium size gold When put in or behind of a thick ceramic vase(in air or soil) ?
If you do those, will have made me obliged to you.

[hung]

Not this time yet guys...

Hi

We found a old pocket clock (gold-plated) with this legend: "System Roskoff". Was with Alonso, models 2006 and 2007, 2 months ago, in ancient train area, no very far, 15 or 20 m, maybe by the humidity, in threes' sector.

Yeah Esteban, good for you being on the right place to detect that watch.
Guess for me it's just a matter of time for a finding with the FG80.

End of the line for hopes that what I detected was buried gold.
Yesterday I returned to the site now with more time to investigate and to my astonishment, the source of the beeps is an underground powerhouse in that hill... In the middle of nothing! Well actually in the site there are a lot of trees, branches, rocks and thousands of leaves on the ground. Typicaly of rain forrests vegetation. At the time I arrived there I knew there was someting wrong when I could not pick the signal from 150 feet like on sunday, only closer. Then when aproaching the target from another direction I sighted one portion of a thick black plastic conduit. The rest was going underground.
Later talking to the city hall in charge there, he explained that there's a powerhouse underground and the black conduits were hidden among the leaves and branches. This is used to light up the poles in the front distant part of the place. They usually light it up at 5 o'clock, exactly the time I was there on sunday. This explains why I got a more distant signal. It was all interference...

Well, let's move on. I scheduled a visit to shipwreck sites out of town this weekend and have a big expedition coming up in september in which I'll videotape to use it in a future intended documentary.

I feel like those guys in the MD forums who first bought a metal detector and is dying for his first detection compared to the ones who are all seasoned at it. Although the PDC made me overcome this phase already, anxiety and expectation for a debut finding with the FG80 are natural.
But as I said, it's just a matter of time and place. Because if it's there, I'll get it.

[hung]

Thank you Hung for your favors. It's good news.
my test points are in page 1 in this subject; 6 points, but 5 of them are more important:
only Num. 1 needs to be buried other can be done easily in air; from distance you did with your ring is enough.
1- Make test for buried different size of fresh gold .
2- If can detect gold when is near iron or any other metal.
3- If can detect gold near dense minerals (like as inside a chalk pack or a mix of chalk 50%+ clay 40% + sand 10%; dry or wet).
4- If can detect gold inside or near a mass of charcoal.
5- If can detect a medium size gold When put in or behind of a thick ceramic vase(in air or soil) ?
If you do those, will have made me obliged to you.

Michael,
Two points you should know first.
Damasio told me that since the sensitivity of the new models and the circuitry improved tremendously regarding the PDC series for instance, one could detect fresh gold (gold in air). This in his opinion would show the user the detector abilities.
Alhtough I can pick fresh gold under special conditions, it's not intended to act as a fresh gold seeker detector, it's just on consequence under circumstances if you know what I mean.
If say I'm in an already ionized place by the existence of gold mining and if humidity rate allows, the FG80 should be able to pick up a ring for instance at several feet away.

Also, I will try those tests, but first I have to meet low humidity conditions as I live near the ocean where humidity is really high. Maybe I can try them at summertime, when humidity here is low during day, or even travel to places I can get dry conditions.
I'm getting an Amprobe TH-2A humidity meter to monitor those conditions.
So, be sure I will do those tests as soon as possible.

[neronc]

Help Minero FG80

Hello
I am new here and I discovered that you possessed a FG80.
I received mine one month ago and not middle to make operate it. I made my tests to 40% of humidity. Besides I made the tests in a land where I found a lot of gold Gallic pieces. I even make the test with the cool gold and always nothing.
Can you tell myself if there is one special way to adjust it because I don't know what i'm doing bad.
Sorry for my English but I make what I can.

Thank you Jean-paul

[michael]

Meghcy Hung, I wish good lucks, unique excavations for you.
I will be much cheerful if see here your founds.

[hung]

Hello
I am new here and I discovered that you possessed a FG80.
I received mine one month ago and not middle to make operate it. I made my tests to 40% of humidity. Besides I made the tests in a land where I found a lot of gold Gallic pieces. I even make the test with the cool gold and always nothing.
Can you tell myself if there is one special way to adjust it because I don't know what i'm doing bad.
Sorry for my English but I make what I can.

Thank you Jean-paul

Hi Jean Paul,
First of all, welcome here and I hope you make a lot of friends.

Let's start with the fresh gold sample. You will need low humidity of less than 50% to be able to detect. I currently have around 65% and still I'm able to make the detector beep at the sample at short distances.
Since you have humidity around 40%, that's fine.
Point the detector perpendicular to ground and turn it on after setting the venneer pot to 000. Then begin increasing turns until it beeps.
This will depend on your climate conditions and ground threshold, but it's usually around 280. Could be more or less than this tough. As soon as it beeps, see if it accepts increasing even more. There will be a point where the detector will beep continuosly . Then you have reached max for that moment. Turn it back some numbers. Each number corresponds to one turn 360 deg in a regular pot. Then you're set. Point to the sample and it sould beep once or twice. It will eventually stops as the ionic chamber will get polarized. Touch the antenna on the ground to depolarize it. And start again. Depending on your electrostatic fields condition, you should be able to make it beep at different distances. The more powerful the electrostatic field, the longer the distance you will get. Sometimes it may get so sensitive that once it beeps to the sample it will trigger a continuous beep. Then you decrease the knob until it stops. This feature, I believe, is the auto function working on so when you're in the field, a distant target or a weak signal gets tracked.

For long time buried gold, you simply repeat the initial step above of turning the detector and calibrating to the first beep. That's it. Go to the field and whenever it finds buried gold, it will beep continuously or not , depending on the mass found and you just reduce the knob until you are able to trace the center of it.
Remember, after rains, wait 4 days minimum before going out.
Best of luck.

[hung]

Bellow is a sample of the gold rock detected with my friend's PDC. It was taken from a depth of 105 feet. All his mining area as well as the other miner's was detected with the PDC210.
Imagine the areas the FG80 would detect there... I have to go to that place again!

[neronc]

Jean-Paul

Hello

Thank you for the answer and the explanations. I am going to try one of these next days.
I have try this afternoon again (before reading your message) and the device got to bipper in only one directionet this more and more continuous. no luck for me because I met in the neighbor's field where it is prohibited me from entering.
I could not control the reality of the signal. The humidity was of 58%.
Is it possible to know where you live because it would be maybe preferable to pay to you the plane to come here to learn me to use the FG80? Why not.

Belgium is there one of the countries oùil has the more of treasures to the square meter because it was always a country of passage to all times.


Thank you again and I will give news of the results.





My mail is jf039059@scarlet.be

[hung]

Hello

Thank you for the answer and the explanations. I am going to try one of these next days.
I have try this afternoon again (before reading your message) and the device got to bipper in only one directionet this more and more continuous. no luck for me because I met in the neighbor's field where it is prohibited me from entering.
I could not control the reality of the signal. The humidity was of 58%.
Is it possible to know where you live because it would be maybe preferable to pay to you the plane to come here to learn me to use the FG80? Why not.

Belgium is there one of the countries oùil has the more of treasures to the square meter because it was always a country of passage to all times.


Thank you again and I will give news of the results.




My mail is jf039059@scarlet.be

Hi Jean,

You actually can detect inside city limits but this requires experience to judge the beep patterns and conditions you encounter.
I'd suggest going to places outside city and away from power lines, cars, etc. Remote places seem to be the best bet for you to know your detector better and get used to its beep patterns. Try to research stories and places there. In the woods or isolated places, if there's something buried, the FG80 will give unmistakingly beeps.
By the way I'm in Brazil. Let me know how you are doing with your detector.

[Jim]

Bellow is a sample of the gold rock detected with my friend's PDC. It was taken from a depth of 105 feet. All his mining area as well as the other miner's was detected with the PDC210.
Imagine the areas the FG80 would detect there... I have to go to that place again!

Goodness gracious, it is hard to imagine anyone digging a hole 105 foot deep. I wager you were extremely tired after accomplishing that feat! About how many hours did it take?

[hung]

Goodness gracious, it is hard to imagine anyone digging a hole 105 foot deep.

This was one of the eight 7 foot diameter, 100 foot deep average holes existing in his mining section area.
The holes were dug according to the concentration spots detected by the PDC210 from the veins.
The hole is dug until you find the 'mother rock' where the gold is . The picture above was from a sample of a much bigger rock. This concentration was determined as having 144g of gold per ton of rock.

I wager you were extremely tired after accomplishing that feat! About how many hours did it take?

I did not dig the hole. His workers did, and depending on the degree of difficuilty encountered such as rocks, tree rots, etc. this may take from 3 to 5 days to dig one hole that deep in general.

[robert]

Hi on a fly!


It sunny here on Rhodes island!
I see you still arguing.....sheeeeesh!
I am walking some locations and collecting some old greek coins....
With Minelab in my hands....not mineoro! Ha!
regards
P.S.
see you in september