Dowsing theory

[goldfinder]

Dowsing is a resonance (REZ) phenomena. Not in the sense of electrical REZ but in an act of personal resonance. Homeopathy fits into this category as medicine that has patterns that act to effect a change on the energy level. Magnetic fields will erase a pattern in a homeopathic as the pattern in fragile with respect to strong vortex of aetheric energy creating the magnetic field.

In a physical material like gold the pattern is strong and cannot be erased as it is cast in the physical level as well as other levels.

The dowser, because of his multi level nature. A good dower operates on several levels but gets his information on Aetheric side via tuning into patterns and the rays radiated to all similar patterns.
Goldfinder

[WM6]

How then to explain the placebo effect?

Are we in this case in resonance with nonexistent drugs in placebo pills?

[FrancoItaly]

The placebo effect is a good proof that the mind can act on the body.

[goldfinder]

Placebo effect

placebo is belief that something will work and if the person accpets this then it does. This is so obvious I am surpised you would even ask.

The mind is very powerful. Believe in dowsing and it works (sort of), just like the pacebo effect, it sort of works depending on the strength of beliefe.
GF

[FrancoItaly]

Hi goldfinder,
I agree with you 100%

[WM6]

placebo is belief that something will work and if the person accpets this then it does. This is so obvious I am surpised you would even ask.

Then placebo works on on some sort of auto-deceptive way?

Is then possible that LRL works the same way as placebo?

That it works for you only in case that you believe that it works?
That all is autosuggestion and auto-deception only?

But in fact, as with placebo, it doesn't work with his own power?

[dragomir]

LRL's only assistant human computer - subconscious to register the correct signal.

[Mike(Mont)]

LRL's only assistant human computer - subconscious to register the correct signal.

Your statement does not address the placebo effect. In the placebo effect there is nothing there. I know many/most people do not understand that a true LRL (I'm referring mainly to the frequency discriminators which almost every project on this forum utilizes to some extent) will effect the L-rods even if it is only a minute amount. So your statement is partially correct but I would use the term "L-rods" instead of "LRL".

Here's something to ponder: I have a frequency discriminator with an electronic receiver. If I do not wait five minutes for the signal line to develop it will not be on the target. If I use L-rods during this initial time i will get a response as if there is a signal line present. Then I get out the electronic receiver and can pick up the same exact line but they are both wrong because the discriminated signal line has not yet developed! Obviously this is not the placebo effect--the L-rods (and the electronic receiver) are responding to something.

I'm not here to start an argument, just wanted to state what I know.

[Mike(Mont)]

BTW, the five minutes for the signal line to develop is just an average number for around here. We have very dry ground right now and sandy soil. Damp ground or something more solid gives quicker times. But magnetic disturbances can cause much longer times. Extreme situations maybe have to come back the next day or longer.

This has been my uneasiness about the hand-held devices. Maybe your ground is different, but it still takes time for the discriminated signal line to develop. You pick up lines but they are not to the target, maybe iron or water until the discriminated line locks on.

[Mike(Mont)]

Shorter distances will be quicker times. My five minutes is for a half-ounce silver from about 75 feet (>20+ meters) on the lowest power setting. Sometimes quicker and sometimes much longer. You could experiment with this by letting your device point to an area for five minutes and see if you can detect a more distant target.

[dragomir]

I with my frequency generator with L rods cover a kilometer for a great subject for time less than 1 minute. After turning off the power generator and the line remained standing many days.

[Mike(Mont)]

Just so you know, today is not a good day for doing any experiments. The magnetic field is bouncing all over the place.

[Mike(Mont)]

I with my frequency generator with L rods cover a kilometer for a great subject for time less than 1 minute. After turning off the power generator and the line remained standing many days.

Oh, so that's why the earth's field is shaking.

Yeah, some frequencies hit faster but the one's I have worked with also hit multiple targets that are not discriminated.
I'm working very low power which obviously takes longer. i can raise the level about thirty-five times but usually no need for working in my yard.

[Mike(Mont)]

I was able to get a lock on yesterday. It's still buffeting today a little bit. Took nearly ten minutes to get a good lock on.

If I get a false lock on (spontaneous potential or whatever) I have found if I just walk down the line my own body field (or maybe it;s the speaker magnet inside the receiver?) is enough to cancel that non-discriminated line. It might not go directly to the correct line, but it does move away. I've heard of people saying they stomp on the ground to cancel a false line, I don't seem to need to do that.

[Mike(Mont)]

No question different frequencies give different lock-on times. I noticed the silver frequency came in in about a minute. I changed to a different gold frequency and it was almost immediate. But I know in the past I have picked up multiple signals, but during times of interference there may be no other choice. So I guess do like Bob Fitzgerald and check the target with about ten or fifteen different frequencies. Pain in the butt. I don't have the patience.