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  • #61
    Passive Receiver

    Originally posted by Morgan View Post
    Anyway still a DC2008 after your modifications,or change the name ???

    Regards

    [ATTACH]11615[/ATTACH]


    So is this MINEORO DC2008 able to locate one large coin near the coil or not ???

    I think yes...

    Is this the Alonso´s PD Passive Receiver inside Mineoro DC 2008,Hummm,i supose yes...
    In my DC this PCB is covered with black resin...

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    • #62
      DC2008

      Originally posted by Esteban View Post
      Yes, but this is not by Mineoro. Mineoro don't use this or similar system.

      Corrections are acepted if i´m wrong

      master Esteban...

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      • #63
        ???

        Originally posted by Morgan View Post
        Corrections are acepted if i´m wrong

        master Esteban...
        ???

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Morgan View Post
          Is this the Alonso´s PD Passive Receiver inside Mineoro DC 2008,Hummm,i supose yes...
          In my DC this PCB is covered with black resin...
          Yes, it is PCB5
          Geo

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          • #65
            ???

            Originally posted by Geo View Post
            Yes, it is PCB5


            o,why this PCB not as the black resine as other DC2008 models ???

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            • #66
              DC2008

              Originally posted by Geo View Post
              Yes, it is PCB5

              Hi Geo

              As Esteban remains so silent,i can ask you this question :

              The Passive Receiver can work as METAL DETECTOR inside DC2008 model,maibe we can use the same as Mineoro,toroidal coil and single loop(instead of ferrite) in the Pistoldetektor PCB 5 ??? I think it will be very sensitive !!!

              Dont you think?


              Regards

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Morgan View Post
                o,why this PCB not as the black resine as other DC2008 models ???
                If you will look carefully, you will see that the black resin is down the passive receiver.
                Also look the color of the passive receiver pcb, and the main pcb of Mineoro.
                I believe that Esteban put this pcb later to the DC2008
                Geo

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Morgan View Post
                  Hi Geo

                  As Esteban remains so silent,i can ask you this question :

                  The Passive Receiver can work as METAL DETECTOR inside DC2008 model,maibe we can use the same as Mineoro,toroidal coil and single loop(instead of ferrite) in the Pistoldetektor PCB 5 ??? I think it will be very sensitive !!!

                  Dont you think?


                  Regards
                  Passive receiver can work as magnetic or electrostatic detector. Remember my Pistol at your home
                  Geo

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                  • #69
                    DC2008

                    Originally posted by Geo View Post
                    If you will look carefully, you will see that the black resin is down the passive receiver.
                    Also look the color of the passive receiver pcb, and the main pcb of Mineoro.
                    I believe that Esteban put this pcb later to the DC2008



                    No,the photo with passive receiver comes with the note DC2008 as original,then it comes the other photo with modifications...


                    Thanks Geo

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                    • #70
                      Esteban gives lots of info , but never when or what we need

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                      • #71
                        LRL teacher

                        Originally posted by Fred View Post
                        Esteban gives lots of info , but never when or what we need



                        Hi Fred

                        As you can see,he already give a lot of info. see this pictures ?
                        I´m trying to understant how passive receiver can work in PD without ferrite,i think i go to try the same as in Mineoro DC2008,other kind of antenna,i want to avoid the critical adjustments,this will happen when PD become very sensitive using Passive Receiver alone. For exemple,the model DC2008 detect very good gold objects size of large coin,20 cm from the resonating chamber or antenna using this Pass. Receiver...
                        I think from this images we can learn something usefull for upgrade the PD.

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                        • #72
                          Maybe, Esteban intentionally place PD's passive receiver in the DC2008 for us to think that the passive receiver can be made to be used in mineoro detectors after esteban making some experiment. The problem is that Esteban will not give us the complete specifications. He always mislead people in this forum.

                          regards...

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                          • #73
                            There is no easy way to the mystical Land of Gold.
                            Global capital is ruining your life?
                            You have right to self-defence!

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                            • #74
                              Actually from what Esteban said from so long time I think the precise details are unimportant.
                              I can be from audio up to VHf band, the "antenna" can be loop telescopic or ferrite, the output must be triggered and make something beep when there is variations on the ambient noise.
                              Of course there is the electrostatic stuff which works the same way but with voltage instead of RF. And the supreme device which use both.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Fred
                                Actually from what Esteban said from so long time I think the precise details are unimportant.
                                I can be from audio up to VHf band, the "antenna" can be loop telescopic or ferrite, the output must be triggered and make something beep when there is variations on the ambient noise.
                                Of course there is the electrostatic stuff which works the same way but with voltage instead of RF. And the supreme device which use both.
                                Maybe there is a better way than using both. If you combine the electrostatic and magnetic loop RF with an LED for optical frequencies, then you will have a 3-way detection system. But even better would be to include an additional static magnetic sensor for quadro detection. Of course you would need to program a PIC to process these four signals properly before causing the 555 to make beeps. For example, when the static magnetic sensor detected magnetic north, then the processor would make a correction by subtracting the magnetic north influence from the signal so it you would not make a mistake to think this is a gold signlal. And the processor should subtract broadcast RF and modulation as well as 50/60 Hz power signals to remove EMI noise from the treasure signal. Then the remaining treasure signal could be easily processed to determine exactly what metal you detected at what distance and how deep in the ground, as well as it's weight.

                                The resultant "cleaned" treasure signal would be so good that you could call the quadro-detector the supreme LRL.
                                Think so?

                                Best wishes,
                                J_P

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