Mineoro210-part2-sensor

[gold24h]

sensor

I beleive what you have there is a high voltage spark gap.It looks like maybee a high voltage arc goes between the middle conducter and the sharp pointed front peice.If either one of the conducters are gold plated then the arc would produce gold ions and be picted up by the back or third conducter. if there was something else in nature producing similer ions,even in small amounts it would be added to the ions allready being produced and could be detected,this is all just a thought but the inside of the sensor sure looks like a device to produce a high voltage arc.

[Carl-NC]

I beleive what you have there is a high voltage spark gap.It looks like maybee a high voltage arc goes between the middle conducter and the sharp pointed front peice.

I checked for this in the PDC-205. There was no high-voltage oscillator.

If either one of the conducters are gold plated then the arc would produce gold ions and be picted up by the back or third conducter. if there was something else in nature producing similer ions,even in small amounts it would be added to the ions allready being produced and could be detected...

Only if the ions can get in. It's a sealed plastic chamber.

A high-voltage arc will also cause pitting, which does not appear to be the case in the photos.

- Carl

[Guard]

maybe that champer speed the ions !!!
+,colector,-

[Alexismex]

NO sense

Hello Forum,
the small yellow sheet which go around the black resin it is 24gold sheet Nº 36 weight 2,3grms (dimension:25X57millimeters)...
the non-sense it is the connection between 2 aa battery with NOCONNECTION in serie.the electrical flow are between the plastic gap of the battery holder(they take away the metal link) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The red cable go to the positif and the black cable to the negative...
In the chamber no innert gaz and no vaccum!!!!!!!!!!, the whole thing it is to bad construction to have some precision ...no precision at all (it is normal with PVC tube)
The small yellow disc it is also gold 24 it is glue to a small disc of type of bakelite (you see in the photo )in the center it is solder a tooooo big cable for flowing some big amperes of ions..
This small disc stay away 1 to 2 mm from the point of brass thank to two O rings of black rubber... The big also white cable go to the negative of the many batteries like the GND path !!!!the red cable go to the base of a transistor(BC549) thru a condensator of 1000pf !!!!!!!!!
YES the Mr.DAMASION can tell with some big affirmation ;that when you buy a Mineoro detector you have automatic the right to have some "vibrations" of Gold because inside the sensor it exist (a $US 40 sheet of 24 gold sheet)THAT is the secret...
HHHHe he guys I have the right to go slowly in the tracing of the board and schematic because of all the non sense of all the things , it is difficult because of the non sense , your himself electronic knowledge must stay away from logic ...I hope you can understand me thinking, OK
Have nice dream
Alex

[hung]

The ionic chamber inspection is not new. Mineorogreece had already mentioned the gold 'sheet' and all of the above in his posts last year. He was one of the first ones to inspect the chamber. You are one more curious to open it to try to figure it out. And one more to fail.

It's hilarious reading your conclusions above. As I said this woud be really amusing, reading the 'wild guesses'.

Mr. Damasio in past long conversations told me a lot of things about the Mineoro concept. Although he never told me exactly why it can't be cloned, he mentioned to me things that now I understand and corroborate...It's impossible to clone it without essential information.

But thanks for posting the pictures, so I will never have to dismantle my detector to see it.

[Qiaozhi]

The ionic chamber inspection is not new. Mineorogreece had already mentioned the gold 'sheet' and all of the above in his posts last year. He was one of the first ones to inspect the chamber. You are one more curious to open it to try to figure it out. And one more to fail.

Fail ????? :confused:

It's hilarious reading your conclusions above. As I said this woud be really amusing, reading the 'wild guesses'.

Yes - I also found it very amusing.

Mr. Damasio in past long conversations told me a lot of things about the Mineoro concept. Although he never told me exactly why it can't be cloned, he mentioned to me things that now I understand and corroborate...It's impossible to clone it without essential information.

Of course this can be cloned, but who would want to? This is clearly nonsense technology.

But thanks for posting the pictures, so I will never have to dismantle my detector to see it.

I agree. Thanks Alexismex.
Now we all know the sad truth.

[Carl-NC]

Yes, based on this dissection it's glaringly obvious that the PDC-210 cannot possibly operate on any method of ion detection.

This possibly qualifies Alexismex for the Mineoro $50,000 prize, except that the terms of the challenge were never clarified, and when the terms are finally clarified, I suspect that no amount of proof will be sufficient to win.

- Carl

[ivconic]

Gold at the end !!!!



So, at the end showed that mineoro customers have nothing to complain about! They already got some gold for their money....isn't that a fact?!??


Carl is "pushing" ions theory to its limits...Give break Carl!
If some people feel easy to beleive in "ions" than let them enjoy!

Fact is that "ionic chamber" is related to gold somehow....

see ya next month!

[Esteban]

The principle is correct. I make some detectors under the principle.

[Geo]

The principle is correct. I make some detectors under the principle.

Hi Esteban. What you mean? Who is the principle of this ionic detector? Do you know how the ionic champer works?:confused:
Regards

[hung]

http://www.mineoro.com/treasure/explanations.htm#a10

Although Esteban is an expert in Mineoro detectors he lacks essential information which Mineoro off course does not provide.

The ionic chamber, altough important, is not the essential factor which makes the detectors work. There's much more than that. The pictures above are nice and provide an educational insight regarding the chamber, although the one shown above lacks some components found in the FG series such as infra red sensor and some more things.

[Esteban]

From Mineoro's page:

The ionic/electrostatic chamber consists of the external "antenna" in the form of a black tube, plus an elliptical sensor inserted in the plate of the boardcircuit. This sensor in elliptical shape represents an ionic/electrostatic field reflector, similar to the reflectors used in the antique tv aerials, which had deflectors and reflectors to better concentrate the signal received from VHF. The idea of that ionic/electrostatic reflector was originated in those reflectors. This sensor reflects and concentrates like a lens part of the energy that escapes and it is not detected by the "antenna" inside the black tube. This ionic/electrostatic energy is reutilized by the "antenna" increasing the detection capacity of the detector and turning the detection more directional As the detection through electrostatics has the property of polarizing the substrate, an electrical time constant was placed for this depolarization, keeping the sensor neutral to reflect the "ionic/electrostatic" fields. It is good to clarify that electrostatics reflects, concentrates, disperses, and is carried by metals, conductive wires, etc. The same as dynamic electricity. When the Directional Detector is moved into a horizontal or vertical position an static electricity is produced, electrostatics, according to Loeb, necessary in the ionic chamber for the use of positive "ions" which would meet the negative "ions" producing the phenomenom of Long Range Directional Detection with Substance Classifier, as it was explained before. The existent electronic circuits are just amplifiers of the "nano" signal supplied at the moment of the detection. The bigger sensor that surrounds the perimeter of the boardcircuit, is a sensor which reinforces the creation of the electrostatic field when moving the detector to locate any target.

[Qiaozhi]

From Mineoro's page:

The ionic/electrostatic chamber consists of the external "antenna" in the form of a black tube, plus an elliptical sensor inserted in the plate of the boardcircuit. This sensor in elliptical shape represents an ionic/electrostatic field reflector, similar to the reflectors used in the antique tv aerials, which had deflectors and reflectors to better concentrate the signal received from VHF. The idea of that ionic/electrostatic reflector was originated in those reflectors. This sensor reflects and concentrates like a lens part of the energy that escapes and it is not detected by the "antenna" inside the black tube. This ionic/electrostatic energy is reutilized by the "antenna" increasing the detection capacity of the detector and turning the detection more directional As the detection through electrostatics has the property of polarizing the substrate, an electrical time constant was placed for this depolarization, keeping the sensor neutral to reflect the "ionic/electrostatic" fields. It is good to clarify that electrostatics reflects, concentrates, disperses, and is carried by metals, conductive wires, etc. The same as dynamic electricity. When the Directional Detector is moved into a horizontal or vertical position an static electricity is produced, electrostatics, according to Loeb, necessary in the ionic chamber for the use of positive "ions" which would meet the negative "ions" producing the phenomenom of Long Range Directional Detection with Substance Classifier, as it was explained before. The existent electronic circuits are just amplifiers of the "nano" signal supplied at the moment of the detection. The bigger sensor that surrounds the perimeter of the boardcircuit, is a sensor which reinforces the creation of the electrostatic field when moving the detector to locate any target.

Gobbledy gook pseudoscientific techno-babble.

[Carl-NC]

Gobbledy gook pseudoscientific techno-babble.

I agree. Whoever wrote this clearly doesn't understand electrostatics in the least. It appears to be just made-up.

When I get some time I'll start a thread that takes all the Mineoro "explanations" and shows what utter nonsense they are.

- Carl

[hung]

Maybe I should use a spyglass, microscope or even a telescope then?
Because I just can't see what you refer as 'nonsense'.
Honestly.