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  • #76
    Originally posted by Dell Winders View Post
    Like I said, I'll give you $40 for it. I think I can make it work. But probably not as good as mine. Dell
    I already got it working... I simply plugged in earphones, and tuned it to 600 WSJS... Rush Limbaugh came in loud & clear. That's more than yours can do.

    - Carl

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Alexismex View Post
      Hello all friends from the forum,
      First, I have some avance in the schematic of the Mineoro, it take time because of all the nonsense (loco,loco,loco) of the wiring , like say Robert to full the case of things ....but don't worry one day i upload the diagram...
      Looking forward to it. Thanks!

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      • #78
        our first experience

        Hi everybody. We tested our FG80 for 2 days. everything was ideal(sunny days, humidity 30-35%, temp: 15 C°)
        it's not as simple as they claim. most of the times had random beeps that frustrated us.
        working with that is hard and may needs too much practice. we could detect the gold plate only under sun and with maximum sensitivity from 40-50 Cm not more. and surprisingly never beeped for my heavy wedding gold ring. it seems these devices react to reflected energy of metal plate not the metal itself.
        first day passed for some experiments and knowing little about its' behavior, then tried to do some serious searching in fields, and got some signals from distance, of course tracking a line is not simple, and most of times after 2-3 beep lose the signal, and have to increase the SENS to track it again. the worse thing is mostly when we reached to the point device started to continuous beep in every directions and this made us much confused.
        by changing the SENS could focus it in a smaller area.
        at these 2 days we got 7 signal lines and as 3 of them repeated at 2nd day, it's clear it detects something, but what's the exact, still we don't know.
        another problem is using the center & Deep, sometimes it responds (hardly) for detected point and mostly without second point, then can't know what's the real depth and the worse, what's the target dimensions!!!.
        if weather be good, we will do some diggings (of course with our MD accompany) by the time we understand the real behavior & language of FG80, should use MD among with it. anyway it needs much time to become expert by it and we are mystified specially with this very deficient manual.

        BTW; it treats differently of Zahori.
        as every electrical wire gives beep in zahori, but in FG80 some electrical fields (I think those that are powerful; e.g. electrical-counter, refrigerator, car engine... and as we before had searched these areas by zahori it could never track even one signal. wherase we could get lines from 10 to 50 meters or more.
        Carl, please don't spare me of sharing your experiences. thank you.

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        • #79
          This is as I wrote earlier;
          By already having a proven method of locating targets is how I was able to compare, and show the Mineoro purchaser, how to adjust the tuning for it to operate properly and experience first hand the Mineoro working, as well as to recognize it's limitations.

          In my opinion a novice would have difficulty tuning the previous Mineoro's, to the varible conditions merely by following the limited instructions in the manual.
          When a constantly fluxuating magnetic Strength of Field (SOF) is present it causes the Mineoro, to work intermittingly. Unfortunately, It's not often that you will encounter a consistent SOF anymore, so this is a problem.

          Like you, I also found that having to constantly increase or decrease the power manually to compensate for an ever changing SOF, can be frustrating and sometimes an exercise in futility. Yet I cannot deny that the Mineoro, does indeed work in ideal operating conditions.

          I see this as a problem that can be solved, but the engineers would have to revise their thinking and make some additions and modifications of their circuit. That requires time and money.

          Personally, I think the emphasis on humidity as the major problem is inaccurate. In my experience humidity is a minor problem which only becomes prevelant with fog, or Dew on the ground.

          I'm sorry I didn't have more opportunity to field test and compare the Mineoro, but so far, I'm still able to obtain better information about a potential Treasure site by using a pair of Dowsing Rods to meter the electronic signals, and it costs less.

          I look forward to hearing more of your results with Mineoro. Thank you for sharing. Dell
          "WHAT HAS BEEN DONE, CAN BE DONE"

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Dell Winders View Post
            When a constantly fluxuating magnetic Strength of Field (SOF) is present it causes the Mineoro, to work intermittingly. Unfortunately, It's not often that you will encounter a consistent SOF anymore, so this is a problem.
            This just doesn't make any sense. According to Mineoro the FG80 works by detecting ions released from longtime buried gold, which incidently do not exist. We've discussed this ad infinitum on this forum, but I sometimes wonder if anyone takes any notice. I guess you just hear what you want to hear. How can you blab on about a fluxuating (sic) magnetic Strength of Field (SOF), when this is just gobbledy gook and means absolutely nothing?
            As far as testing one non-working device by using another ... well, this is just nonsense. :confused:

            Originally posted by Alexismex
            But my friends don't find nothing with mineoro but you can't release from his mind the illusion of find gold with it ....
            Thanks to Alexismex for reporting his investigations with the Mineoro. I'm sure that everyone here (with a few exceptions) are not in the least surprised to find that the Mineoro was unable to detect any gold, even when you could see it with your own eyes! The whole LRL and dowsing phenomenon is simply a trick of the mind. It is well known that our capacity for self-deception has no limits. Human beings have an amazing capacity to deceive themselves into believing things that are not true. The problem is in convincing them that they are in error.

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            • #81
              Hehe...oh brother, eh?

              All doubts have been removed

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              • #82
                ionic is true and usa is using this technology.

                They use this technology to recover treasure here in philippines.........
                Attached Files

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                • #83
                  proof that they use ionic to find jap treasure

                  Here are the proof of the letter.if you really want to find treasure for life just email or P.M me.(but be carefull.i will post your letter if you cheat me).
                  Attached Files

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                  • #84
                    jojo, hi

                    Can you email me with more details of what you are talking about.
                    I really think this can be done, but like everyone i think, we need more information to understand this.
                    My email is ce3llp@mi.cl

                    In advance, many thanks.
                    Regards
                    Nelson

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                    • #85
                      Empty Holes, Oh Boy !!

                      Originally posted by jojo View Post
                      They use this technology to recover treasure here in philippines.........
                      Thanks for sharing pictures of empty holes.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Jim View Post
                        Thanks for sharing pictures of empty holes.
                        this show you that there is technology even for old picture to know that
                        there indeed treasure recoverY,but the map that i post mr wayne confirm
                        that out of the 8x mark ,7 of them is positive of treasure cache.he dont
                        even share some for the map owner.GREEDY PEOPLE,I HOPE MORE
                        KARMA WILL SOON COME TO THE PEOPLE WITH THIS KIND OF CHARACTER.
                        WHAT DO YOU THINK JIM?

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by jojo View Post
                          They use this technology to recover treasure here in philippines.........
                          Two men standing in two holes. :confused: :confused:
                          Perhaps I need glasses, because I cannot spot any treasure in either photo.
                          Is this like a "spot the ball" competition?

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                          • #88
                            You call that proof? we dont even know if they are looking for a treasure, let alone what technology they use.Please stop making fun of readers.

                            I still have the same question:Why MINEORO give a fresh gold test plate if it only detects old gold? Anyone?

                            Fred.

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                            • #89
                              Wasted money&time...


                              Michael,according to your report, now i have feeling that you are honest...unlike in the past.
                              What you posted here....almost everything already have been seen. Me and my friends already
                              tested and checked very simillar and gained very simillar results. You not gonna gain any
                              progress in further. Things gonna be simillar....more or less. Device is just not capable
                              of detecting what it is claimed to be.Period. Yes it is true,it is acting different than
                              Zahori...but what benefit from it???
                              Those "lines" you are talking about....noting more than static changes from the very surface of
                              the ground. What induced those changes? Ground content is more than composite. Mixture content
                              also. Some of changes could be temporary, induced by present conditions at that only moment.
                              But some of changes may stay persistent and long lasting due to cause of induction. For example
                              if you have a huge cave right bellow testing point,you gonna have quite different ground static
                              on surface above....
                              Big (i mean huge) anomaly in the ground will induce/produce quite different gnd static on
                              surface....On hot,sunny day, that gnd static is gonna be even more different at that point than
                              others arround....simply as that!
                              Due to many reasons....temperature,resistivity,density...etc..
                              Zahori (as very simple device) is not capable to "catch" those differences but only major
                              AC charge/discharge....usually met on high power lines at long range and very ordinary AC lines
                              at short range.
                              But devices like mineoro might be a bit more sensitive and able to "track" some which Zahori
                              can not...

                              But this still does not mean that you can detect simple coin on few meters...also no ion detection
                              involved in those at all.
                              Very "wide" receiving "spectrum" of those, unstability....also no way to know origin of detection
                              leads you to conclusion that those devices are more than unusable in metal detection.
                              It is so obvious that mineoro founders tried in the past to gain some benefits from that kind
                              of apparatus, but they stuck to point with no return. They gained as much as it possible from
                              those and nothing more.
                              Wasted time....no progress....finally they decided to make some money of those by advertising
                              and selling by hot prices, somehow to compensate lost time and money....Not honest at all.
                              What else you can do to check and be sure in those? Simply dig the points of detection and try
                              to distinguish what was the "object" of detections. You gonna find nothing at the end. Later
                              when you switch on mineoro and try to detect again that "line", you'll find out that there is
                              no "line" any more??? You disturbed previous gnd state by digging and lost "line" for good!
                              By very rare,random,"wild" case,fluke, when digging, you may find some item (usually plenty of
                              them in the ground, everywhere)....and than you'll be "very sure" that mineoro done a job!
                              In that unfortunate case, no one would convince you ever that mineoro is bogus!
                              You will beleive in it more than in God! Any further missfind with it you will be ready to
                              explain to your mind as situation where all needed conditions arent met properly!
                              Neither once you will not doubt in mineoro in future. I think this is case with Hung, if we
                              take him as honest man at all.
                              Thats why i said "unfortunate" case....Beware, do not let your mind to fool you! Always take
                              some reserve and do a double blind tests....
                              Finally, you'll find out that fg80 is BOGUS for real, and that you wasted much money!Sorry!

                              Carl, what is with your report???
                              Take short holliday from Maxim and do the testing man!
                              By the way,whats new in Maxim?


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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by robert View Post
                                Carl, what is with your report???
                                Take short holliday from Maxim and do the testing man!
                                By the way,whats new in Maxim?
                                We have had unprecedented rain this fall. Got about 2 inches last week, and another 2 inches this week. After last week's rain, I was racing my bicycle, hit a mud slick, and wiped out. Got hurt pretty bad. So with the rain, the pain, and other priorities, the FG80 has just been sitting. I'll try to get to it soon.

                                - Carl

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