Bob Fitzgerald LRL Devices

[Mike(Mont)]

You can use the M.E. II without ground probe and just one L-rod. But the target size and TRN need a ground probe.

[kaveh]

You said you tested the output. Do you own the MIni Eliminator II? I asked Bob about the stability issue. He said the frequency does not have to be perfectly stable. I did measure the target size ohms and it was about 10Mohms at the "Small" setting, 20 at the medium setting and 30 at the large setting. ALthough I have not done much with this device, I was in my yard and my dog could sense the signal line. He lay down on it. I turned on the TRN and after a few minutes he got up and moved over to where the actual target was. No joke!!! I think dog can hear the signal. One time I had one of those bird listening dish amplifier. I turned it to a transmitter and I could plainly hear the signal. Strange! And speaking about the signal line, the flux lines coming off the transmitter bundle up (gather together) right on the line to the target. When walking across the target line it is like the Lenz effect (where a magnet moving across a conductor produces an opposing magnetic field). This is how the rods move, I think. When crossing the signal line I feel like I am being squeezed though a small opening, and when I get through, it's like it pushes me. As for the sensation, I can feel it in my pulse. I can't explain it any better than that.

I tested the trasure navigator output. It does not have a very high output. Millivolt is enough. About 0.2 to 0.5 volts.
It is a good dog. I have never used animals to find metals underground. But I've heard a lot of talk about training animals to find metals underground.

[Mike(Mont)]

I never trained my dog--he just learned on his own. He would hang out with me in the yard and I noticed that he was always in the way. Then I realized he was on the signal line. I think it must feel good for them. I've heard cats are just the opposite--they go to spot with bad energy. LOL Yes, powerful signal causes problems. You see on the M.E.II the target size grounds out the antenna signal through the ground probe and the TRN. Add in that weird "Christmas Tree" inductors and it looks like a RC high pass filter. Maybe it filters out some harmonics? One phrase/term they use "Advanced harmonics distribution". What I think is the signal comes out the antenna and that Christmas tree catches that signal pulse and produces a magnetic field. The info on the M.E.II say New circuitry to eliminate hot spots and mineralization, but that is the same as on the PDF 1000 which came out later, so they had time to come up with that phrase AHD. But is obviously the same circuit.

[Mike(Mont)]

Bob said he had a Labrador Retriever that would immediatly run to the spot he had something buried, the instant he turned on the transmitter.

[Mike(Mont)]

I got this wrong--at least target size works without ground probe, I didn't check TRN. Instructions say grouns probe is recommended but you can carry the unit in your pocket or backpack. I just tested it and Med. cuts out a 10k gold ring, even from short distance.

[Mike(Mont)]

As I said I have not spent much time with the Mini Eliminator II. I did modify it bypassing the 8038 chip at pin #9 with a cheap DDS frequency generator. I pulled the chip out. For the DDS power supply I used one of those power banks for charging cellphone, but I realize I could have just come off the 7805 power supply, maybe. I still have the two nine volt batteries installed. I've been messing with this unit in my yard the past few days and I have to say I am starting to fall in love with it. LOL I compared it to the Eliminator e-120 and as much as I like it, I have to admit the M.E.II has a much better signal. I have a pair of the gold-plated L-rods From GDI-Detectors and even without the belt-mounted power supply, I get a tingle in both hands all along the rod handles. I made some posts quite while back about the modifications I made and then I said I don't think it is correct, but it seems to work great! Yeah, it's a lot of money for a new one, nearly $2000. I don't know if I would pay that much but it probably is worth it. Even without a ground probe it works pretty good. It's possible Fitzgerald has some used units, or maybe he knows someone looking to sell. Probably easier to learn the rods, too.

[Mike(Mont)]

It's possible the "Si-Go" might be able to be modified with DDS generator. I don't know, but I think so. It cost about half as much as the Mini Eliminator II, and maybe again you can find a used one. It doesn't have as much power. As I said, I know a guy who has/had? one and he counldn't get it to work, so I don't know much about it. A lot of money and you need to be able to use the L-rods. Anyway, just my thoughts for this morning.

[Mike(Mont)]

I tested the trasure navigator output. It does not have a very high output. Millivolt is enough. About 0.2 to 0.5 volts.
It is a good dog. I have never used animals to find metals underground. But I've heard a lot of talk about training animals to find metals underground.

I've seen the dog rub his face on the ground right over the signal line. It must feel good to them. Of course I've seen dogs rub their face in horse manure, too. LOL Usually they drop their shoulder down and rub in the "perfume". But this was the side of his face.

[Mike(Mont)]

It's possible the "Si-Go" might be able to be modified with DDS generator. I don't know, but I think so. It cost about half as much as the Mini Eliminator II, and maybe again you can find a used one. It doesn't have as much power. As I said, I know a guy who has/had? one and he counldn't get it to work, so I don't know much about it. A lot of money and you need to be able to use the L-rods. Anyway, just my thoughts for this morning.

On second thought I don't think the Si-Go is the same circuitry. M.E.II says "New circuitry to eliminate hot spots and mineralization" so pretty sure it is not the same.

[kaveh]

On second thought I don't think the Si-Go is the same circuitry. M.E.II says "New circuitry to eliminate hot spots and mineralization" so pretty sure it is not the same.

All Fitzgerald products work the same way. It has made changes in the products only because of selling products and diversifying.
In my experience they work, but not flawlessly and we expect every point we track to be on target without fail.
Compared to other detectors that have been made, it has a higher percentage of success and their error is also less, and they can be used as a reliable exploration tool.

[Mike(Mont)]

All Fitzgerald products work the same way. It has made changes in the products only because of selling products and diversifying.
In my experience they work, but not flawlessly and we expect every point we track to be on target without fail.
Compared to other detectors that have been made, it has a higher percentage of success and their error is also less, and they can be used as a reliable exploration tool.

Check your Private Messages.

[Mike(Mont)]

He says toggle the TRN. I call it "Shake it off" LOL Sorry I can't get good resolution. Frustrating. I can sse it fine on my cellphone.

[Mike(Mont)]

Remember the L-rods are the weak link. So easy to psyche yourself out. Here”s an L-rod technique I like. I call it the “Healey Double-Crosser”.

HTTPS://www.treasurenet.com/threads/try-this-for-l-rods-two-rod-sweep.652318/

[Mike(Mont)]

Remember the L-rods are the weak link. So easy to psyche yourself out. Here?s an L-rod technique I like. I call it the ?Healey Double-Crosser?.

HTTPS://www.treasurenet.com/threads/...-sweep.652318/

This is not that difficult. Anybody who tried L-rods and failed, you really owe it to yourself to try this technique. I know it is easy to accept the skeptics' failures and lose faith in your locating. The skeptics are not experts on this subject and why listen to someone who doesn't know? You can spent your entire life waiting for some dream machine that doen't need L-rods. I have been trying for years now. I have fatigue. The rods are less hassle. Learn this technique and you will have a solid base to work on. It can build up your confidence. Remember 80% of all people can learn. The ones who fail cannot overcome their negativity. I just have to believe most everyone thinks they need to exert no energy in learning and that it should be handed to them on a silver platter. You and NOT entitled so get over it and start working at it. I still think way too many people try to think their way into it. Just can't do that, gotta keep your conscious mind out of the way and only use your awareness of your body response. That's why they say Be humble. Don't think your are so special. I realize this will turn some people off, but if you can't get over that you will never learn. So simple, don't think about it. That's the whole idea about using a distraction. This does not chnage once you learn, you still have to keep out of it. Ask yourself What where is my mind? If you are dwelling on frustration and the fact you want money badly, your not doing it right. Sorry I am not a psychologist and I can't solve anybody's problems--you have to do your own evaluation. This technique can work for you. Just remember there is a good chance you are holding the rods back subconsciously. I like to wiggle the rod around a bit to make sure it is loose when I use only one rod. Just watch and sometimes the rod will not go the way you expected it to move. That's a clue it is trying to pull to or very near to point to the target.

[Mike(Mont)]

kaveh, don't worry about it if you son't want to give me your email. I had some info but some of it I don't want made public and the Private Message won't allow attachments. I probably have most of the frequencies anyway. But it dos make me wonder who you are and why you ask questions you already seem to know the answers. Happy St. Patrick's Day to all. May the Luck of the Irish be with you all.