Expedition Update

[hung]

What does that mean? :confused: :confused:


So it's not that different then? Just a more expensive calculator.

Previously I posted some pseudoscientific gobbledygook about the operation of the Examiner, which was completely bogus. It was something I made up. Somebody then actually put that information on the manufacturer's website to explain the method of operation. How stupid is that?

Maybe your 'stupid post' is correct?

[Qiaozhi]

Maybe your 'stupid post' is correct?

No - it was just gobbledygook.
Just like the "stupid" idea of ionic detection.

[Rudy]

The key is "gravitons"

These detectors operate by sensing the presence of gravitons. Gravitons are highly directional, long lived quantum mechanical particles that are generated by very dense masses.

Black holes and Quasars emit large quantities of gravitons and planet earth is literally bathed in them. Large, massive earth bound objects, such as gold also emit gravitons, so the key is being able to discern wether the graviton source is earth bound or galactic in nature. Well, it turns out that galactic and extra galactic gravitons are "red shifted" during their travel to earth by an amount proportional to their originating distance from us, as postulated by Edwin Hubble.

So, in principle, all the detector needs to do is to discriminate out the red shifted gravitons and detect the locally generated gravitons.

[goldfvr]

graviton info from wikipedia

Gravitons and experiments
Detecting a graviton, if it exists, would prove rather problematic. Because the gravitational force is so incredibly weak, as of today, physicists are not even able to directly verify the existence of gravitational waves, as predicted by general relativity. (Many people are surprised to learn that gravity is the weakest force. The dominance of gravity at large scales is due to the fact that the nuclear forces have a limited range, and the electromagnetic force often largely cancels due to the existence of positive and negative charges. In contrast, gravitational charge -- i.e., mass -- is positive for all known forms of matter.)
Gravitational waves may be viewed as coherent states of many gravitons, much like the electromagnetic waves are coherent states of photons. Projects that should find the gravitational waves, such as LIGO and VIRGO, are just getting started

[Qiaozhi]

These detectors operate by sensing the presence of gravitons. Gravitons are highly directional, long lived quantum mechanical particles that are generated by very dense masses.

Black holes and Quasars emit large quantities of gravitons and planet earth is literally bathed in them. Large, massive earth bound objects, such as gold also emit gravitons, so the key is being able to discern wether the graviton source is earth bound or galactic in nature. Well, it turns out that galactic and extra galactic gravitons are "red shifted" during their travel to earth by an amount proportional to their originating distance from us, as postulated by Edwin Hubble.

So, in principle, all the detector needs to do is to discriminate out the red shifted gravitons and detect the locally generated gravitons.

That's an even worse hypothesis than ionic detection!

As goldfvr says, gravitons are hypothetical virtual particles, according to quantum theory. Their existence is yet to be verified. The Mineoro only detects random electromagnetic noise, and not ions from longtime buried gold (as these don't exist), or gravitons for that matter. You might as well use a set of Tarot cards or read some tea leaves.

[Rudy]

That's an even worse hypothesis than ionic detection!

As goldfvr says, gravitons are hypothetical virtual particles, according to quantum theory. Their existence is yet to be verified. The Mineoro only detects random electromagnetic noise, and not ions from longtime buried gold (as these don't exist), or gravitons for that matter. You might as well use a set of Tarot cards or read some tea leaves.

Can you spell facetious?

[Jim]

:::Chortles:::

Can you spell facetious?

Good one

[Qiaozhi]

Can you spell facetious?

What is this British humour coming from CA?
Next thing, you'll be telling me that "naive" is not in the dictionary.

[Rudy]

What is this British humour coming from CA?
Next thing, you'll be telling me that "naive" is not in the dictionary.

Naw, I just wanted to up the ante on the technobabble used to
describe how these LRLs are supposed to work.

[hung]

The Mineoro only detects random electromagnetic noise, and not ions from longtime buried gold (as these don't exist),

He,he,he.. Another 'preciousness' from you..
If in January we suceed to recover the gold detected and I show pictures here will you still be raising this same 'motto'?

[hung]

Almost there

By the way, what Rudy points out although no exactly 'gravitons' , is close to describe one aspect of the phenomena.
Amazing as a newbie like him pointed this out in the right direction unlike many here who through tons of posts still seem to be 'lost in space'...

[Jim]

Dowsers Code

He,he,he.. Another 'preciousness' from you..
If in January we suceed to recover the gold detected and I show pictures here will you still be raising this same 'motto'?

Dowsers Code. Detected gold, but didn't dig it up. :::rolls eyes:::

[Jim]

BINGO !!

Naw, I just wanted to up the ante on the technobabble used to
describe how these LRLs are supposed to work.

Seems to be working :::snickers:::

[hung]

Dowsers Code. Detected gold, but didn't dig it up. :::rolls eyes:::

Well... Actually you don't have to rely on me. Read bomberman's post in the other forum 'RF Type like DCHs' and all the findings section at Mineoro's website.
We are not dowsers.

[Qiaozhi]

He,he,he.. Another 'preciousness' from you..
If in January we suceed to recover the gold detected and I show pictures here will you still be raising this same 'motto'?

If any gold is recovered it will be because you did some proper research on this location, and determined with a high probablility that treasure has been secreted there. It will have nothing to do with the pseudoscientific nonsense of detecting gold ions from longtime buried gold.