Demistifing ion chambers and snake oil

[Rudy]

Have a look at the link provided by Sean in the Coils Forum (Mobius Coil).
You might want to build the quadrafilar coil with 45 degree helical twist. There's also some verbage about the OFP 111.2 Orgone Field Pulser (version three - no less) Inside this device there's an Aether Vortex chamber that looks quite similar to the ion chamber in the Mineoro FG80. Maybe you could connect this AV chamber to the Mobius coil, add a touch of amplification and viola, you might possibly (if the wind's in the right direction, the humidity is not too low, and there's a 'R' in the month) detect some of that Continually Replenished Alternating Potential (C.R.A.P.) that's emitted by longtime buried gold.

Happy LRLing...

Good grief! Max, make sure that in the process of experimentation
that you don't accidentally catapult yourself into a different space-time
continuum.

I have heard of such things happening to LRL users when they accidentally
cross the ionic field lines during an unaspicious moment.

[Max]

Just this not use IR leds (modulated, range for a coin, near 25 m if the IR is lenses incorporated), no 3130, nothing, no spend much battery, but the motor actuates on your muscles and help you for to find the metal!

And if you vomit all the time, can to tread it!

Hi Esteban,
thanks for the strange apparatus there. Yeah, the termocoupling between different metals
generates these kind of small potential there. It's like a radar (hey!), I mean a rotating
antenna...not exact the same...but a strange zahori.
Because the antenna rotates , or not ?
If not, the motor spin torque acts on muscles only , as a gyro?

Seems that if only gyroscopic effect is involved here, this is a kind of enhanced
zahory-wood.
The principle is quite simple: stabilizing all the rod from external oscillations (e.g.
the ones produced by the operator steps in the field or involontary movements of small
magnitude)

I think I can experiment with my old radios antennae...maybe some dc motor from the
garbage in my garage...only thing missed is the gold mass...ehm

would use lead...have a lot...

Best regards,
Max

[Max]

Hi Qiaozhi and Rudy,

"you might possibly (if the wind's in the right direction, the humidity is not too
low, and there's a 'R' in the month) detect some of that
Continually Replenished Alternating Potential (C.R.A.P.)
that's emitted by longtime buried gold. "

Yes, maybe....I think someone would call the police...if I try to exit for TH with
this kind of stuff in my hand...thinking I'm a free lobotomized too !

"Max, make sure that in the process of experimentation
that you don't accidentally catapult yourself into a different space-time
continuum.

I have heard of such things happening to LRL users when they accidentally
cross the ionic field lines during an unaspicious moment."

Uhm, seems probable...like in the Philadelphya experiment...wow...
maybe I'll encounter Elvis on the way.
Don't know why even a simple zahori project...cause me

this...stomach stimulus...



Finally, I've realized that I can't lrling because the steady position required in LRL is not
possible to obtain vomiting all the time.


Best regards,
Max

[Qiaozhi]

I think I can experiment with my old radios antennae...maybe some dc motor from the
garbage in my garage...only thing missed is the gold mass...ehm

would use lead...have a lot...

Best regards,
Max

Missing the gold mass?? No problem. Just fire up the olde LRL and in a matter of minutes you'll have more olde gold than you've ever imagined.

[Max]

Missing the gold mass?? No problem. Just fire up the olde LRL and in a matter of minutes you'll have more olde gold than you've ever imagined.

Hi Qiaozhi,
yes, but I haven't one ...so i have to fuse something bracelet...ring...etc
I mean...when I'll become completely crazy.

Best regards,
Max

[Qiaozhi]

Hi Qiaozhi,
yes, but I haven't one ...so i have to fuse something bracelet...ring...etc
I mean...when I'll become completely crazy.

Best regards,
Max

Ahh!
You have a Catch 22 situation. What to do?

[Max]

Ahh!
You have a Catch 22 situation. What to do?

Hi Qiaozhi,
what's "catch 22" ???
Do you mean a logic paradox ?
Well, noooo
I think there are too strange things on LRL (when someone finds stuff , yeah! or why someone buy one of these electronic miracles...) to me to create such a paradox.

I think I must leave my gold items as I have at now...instead of making a gold mass...ehm...for the "device".

I've just said that I'll do that when (mean if) I'll become completely crazy.
LRL is only disturbing me...with a lot of

Best regards,
Max

[Qiaozhi]

[quote=Max;50142]what's "catch 22" ???/quote]
Catch-22 is a novel by the American author Joseph Heller.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch-22

In general use it refers to a situation with self-contradictory circular logic.

[Max]

[quote=Qiaozhi;50157]

what's "catch 22" ???/quote]
Catch-22 is a novel by the American author Joseph Heller.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch-22

In general use it refers to a situation with self-contradictory circular logic.

Hi Qiaozhi,
I've heard something about at hi-school but never read it and just don't remember at now who is Heller and his work. I'll take a look if I'll find on local bookstores. Seems interesting.

Best regards,
Max

[Cossaro]

Max...

think you (and some other) spend too much time over this ionic-tamagoci. (2 rows are enough... if you have no doubts) Best Regards.

[Max]

think you (and some other) spend too much time over this ionic-tamagoci. (2 rows are enough... if you have no doubts) Best Regards.

Hi Cossaro,
well yes.

Let's explain why.

I have dubts on the topic because I know that is possible to reveal ionic particles e.g. metal particles (ions) in sea water, and with resolution of 1 atom m^3 and also more.
Well, not by a THunter, anyway not,but by in-line underwater military analyzers - and ions are always in solution there (in sea water and not only).
It's done by chemical/fluorescence reactions but won't explain more of this.

I think that in air the story is completely different, anyway.

But in future remote analyzers could become very cheapy. Belive me.

At the moment we have to deal with these happy plumbers works - fake ion chambers or fake GPRs or other fake stuff - but the principle of ionic detection could reveal something interesting news in next years.
Just airborn ion detection remains a "Ball Sheet" - means nothing practical - because there are no ions... or if there are...wind and other issues become a huge problem.

Best regards,
Max

[Esteban]

Yes, you're right. Also you can detect metals at certain medium distance with coil (oscillator), no doubdt.

[Max]

Yes, you're right. Also you can detect metals at certain medium distance with coil (oscillator), no doubdt.

Hi Esteban,
I was talking about other stuff. I mean, ionic detection in solution not in air.
This method is already fully tested and doesn't need any coil. Anyway, I don't think it'll be useful in TH.


Best regards,
Max

[Esteban]

I think that in air the story is completely different, anyway.

But in future remote analyzers could become very cheapy. Belive me.


Hi Esteban,
I was talking about other stuff. I mean, ionic detection in solution not in air.
This method is already fully tested and doesn't need any coil. Anyway, I don't think it'll be useful in TH.


Best regards,
Max

But no through the air the remote analyzers?

[Max]

I think that in air the story is completely different, anyway.

But in future remote analyzers could become very cheapy. Belive me.


Hi Esteban,
I was talking about other stuff. I mean, ionic detection in solution not in air.
This method is already fully tested and doesn't need any coil. Anyway, I don't think it'll be useful in TH.


Best regards,
Max

But no through the air the remote analyzers?

Hi Esteban,
no I mean not in the air. I mean remote analyzers for soil and solutions (water). These kind of devices will become easy to find, cheapy and mainly intended as revealers for dangerous metal pollutions in water (e.g. near chemical industries, e.g. cadmium or mercury) or in soil - not in air.
There are researches for in-air flow ionic detection but don't know if any portable machine is on the way at now - like the above that (seems) will be soon on the market of "environment control" devices.

Best regards,
Max