Recovery Group Using Long Range Locators

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Practically all LRLs that come with an electronics box claim to utilyze this "principle," including some sold by Dell. It is a bogus principle, easily proven false by anyone who cares to use careful testing procedures.

Until you reconsider your methods of research to understand what dowsing really is, sentences like the ones above will continue to abound the forums.
There's nothing bogus on LRLs based on resonant frequencies. Every element resonates.
In fact, if what you stated was true, the examiner employed in my team would have never led us in the direction to the target in the cave which the FG80 confirmed when the range was reached. Concidence? Luck?
Hmm.. I don't consider those scientific.

Also, Kelly Brown's Treasure Tracker has yet to result in a single, solitary recovered treasure. Lot's of claims of treasure "found," but nothing dug up. Typical LRL results.

- Carl

As you are not a Thunter, your bolded word says it all. True THunters know how hard and difficult the recovery phase is. Detection many times is the easy part.
Private land, problematic land owners, greed in contracts, secrecy having to be kept, government surveillance for taxes, etc. and etc.
I'm not saying that Kelly Brown faces this tough but you also cannot deliberately state that he did not recover anything yet, unless you are spying him. I have been in contact with him for a long time and found he's not very prone to publicity, so...

[Dell Winders]

Practically all LRLs that come with an electronics box claim to utilyze this "principle," including some sold by Dell. It is a bogus principle, easily proven false by anyone who cares to use careful testing procedures.

Carl, you need to rename your forums appropriately to "When intellectual idiots speak". You continue to make false assumptions, without any proof, and state your own assumptions as a basis for fact. You are indeed being dishonest, mis-leading and untruthful in your scientific pretense to be able to look at a photograph and flat out say it is a bogus principle, or it can't work. It appears you are the one running a scam and advertising improbable challenges to promote your scam.

It's apparent, the FRRG, are Professional Treasure Salvors, and have some electronic knowledge. It's ridiculous for you to assume that Professionals would waste their time and money on R&D and use a method that doesn't work. Since the Remote Sensing Frequency Discrimination concept does work and is backed up by years of private DB field testing, and recoveries, it obviously works on scientific principles whether the signal is metered electronicly, or with simple hand held directional antenna rods. That is not to be mis-construed as Dowsing, as you falsely claim in your ignorance of the subject.

I returned yesterday from the Florida East coast where I conducted 2 RSFD surveys for a TH group, witnessed by 6 people at a water location where they had researched, and 3 witnesses at an unresearched land location.

I mentally dowsed and plotted the approximate target locations on Google earth aerial photos two weeks earlier. This is in the center of a Federal wildlife sanctuary with trepass warning signs everywhere so I had to be careful not to step one foot on posted government property. I had brought an inflatable dinghy for us to access the water site near the other side of the creek. From a bridge about 100 yards away I waved a Discriminating directional locator rod back and forth and it locked on targets about 70 feet from the location I had Dowsed on the Google earth photo.

Fortunately, there were some young students camping on the other side of creek and I yelled over asking how they got on the property. They said that section was private property, and we drove around to the gate and they let us search for the Gold targets for the Gold targets from their property.

I gave 2 of the Treasure Hunters plastic rods and they waded into 2-3 foot deep water, about 20 feet from shore and I used a Frquency Discriminator from shore and directed them to place a plastic rod at each of the 5 locations made with the FD.

They probed at each location and hit a smal metal object at one of the locations, 4 feet under the sand & muck bottom.

The used a Fisher under water Pulse 10 detector and got hits at each of the 5 locations.

( I have to leave now, I'll continue the story in a few hours, when I return) Dell

[Jim]

April Fool's Day Story

Carl, you need to rename your forums appropriately to "When intellectual idiots speak". You continue to make false assumptions, without any proof, and state your own assumptions as a basis for fact. You are indeed being dishonest, mis-leading and untruthful in your scientific pretense to be able to look at a photograph and flat out say it is a bogus principle, or it can't work. It appears you are the one running a scam and advertising improbable challenges to promote your scam.

It's apparent, the FRRG, are Professional Treasure Salvors, and have some electronic knowledge. It's ridiculous for you to assume that Professionals would waste their time and money on R&D and use a method that doesn't work. Since the Remote Sensing Frequency Discrimination concept does work and is backed up by years of private DB field testing, and recoveries, it obviously works on scientific principles whether the signal is metered electronicly, or with simple hand held directional antenna rods. That is not to be mis-construed as Dowsing, as you falsely claim in your ignorance of the subject.

I returned yesterday from the Florida East coast where I conducted 2 RSFD surveys for a TH group, witnessed by 6 people at a water location where they had researched, and 3 witnesses at an unresearched land location.

I mentally dowsed and plotted the approximate target locations on Google earth aerial photos two weeks earlier. This is in the center of a Federal wildlife sanctuary with trepass warning signs everywhere so I had to be careful not to step one foot on posted government property. I had brought an inflatable dinghy for us to access the water site near the other side of the creek. From a bridge about 100 yards away I waved a Discriminating directional locator rod back and forth and it locked on targets about 70 feet from the location I had Dowsed on the Google earth photo.

Fortunately, there were some young students camping on the other side of creek and I yelled over asking how they got on the property. They said that section was private property, and we drove around to the gate and they let us search for the Gold targets for the Gold targets from their property.

I gave 2 of the Treasure Hunters plastic rods and they waded into 2-3 foot deep water, about 20 feet from shore and I used a Frquency Discriminator from shore and directed them to place a plastic rod at each of the 5 locations made with the FD.

They probed at each location and hit a smal metal object at one of the locations, 4 feet under the sand & muck bottom.

The used a Fisher under water Pulse 10 detector and got hits at each of the 5 locations.

( I have to leave now, I'll continue the story in a few hours, when I return) Dell

Wow, I can hardly wait to read the ending of this April Fool’s Day story!

[Carl-NC]

There's nothing bogus on LRLs based on resonant frequencies. Every element resonates.

$25,000 for someone who can demonstrate this.

I'm not saying that Kelly Brown faces this tough but you also cannot deliberately state that he did not recover anything yet, unless you are spying him.

I have reliable contacts who know.

- Carl

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This can be done through reflectivity and polarimetry.

I've been exchanging emails with Dr. Myron Evans and equations show such physics and technology already exists as I thought.
In the right time I'll be looking into it with the aid of two top physicists from technology institute and aeronautics to build a device backed by the math involved.
I like to have fun.

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I have reliable contacts who know.

- Carl

Wow..
Not only spying him but with undercover agents as well...

[Carl-NC]

Wow..
Not only spying him but with undercover agents as well...

No, but folks who have been personally involved with Kelly & other "professional" search groups have sent me info on their results. Usually I don't even have to ask.

Here are some photos from the FRRG site:

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